We quack like ducks but are not ducks, we waddle like ducks but are not ducks

by Terry 11 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry
    Terry

    Who could have foreseen that over 100 years later it would amount to a small band of senior citizens ruling over a vast empire of true believers in excess of 7 million souls? Yet, in reality, that is what the Watchtower Society amounts to. People who are contrarian in view who don't want to admit the mainstream churches might be right still insist Jesus Christ is already among us playing second fiddle to Brooklyn New York's ever-changing doctrines and explanations of a 2,000 year old Jewish book.

    “To such remnant of faithful servants of Jehovah God Christ Jesus has entrusted all “his goods”, or earthly interests of the Kingdom. This does not signify that the faithful remnant or society of Jehovah’s anointed witnesses are an earthly tribunal of interpretation, delegated to interpret the Scriptures and its prophecies. No; Christ Jesus the King has not entrusted that office to them. THE SUPREME COURT STILL INTERPRETS, thank God; and Christ Jesus, the Court’s official mouth-piece of interpretation, reserves to himself that office as Head of Jehovah’s “faithful and wise servant” class. He merely uses the “servant” class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it. How does the Lord God make known the interpretation? By causing the facts to come to pass visibly which are in fulfillment of the prophecy or dark saying or misunderstood scripture. Thereafter “in due season” he calls such fulfillment or clarification of prophecy and scripture to the attention of his “faithful and wise servant” class. Thereby he makes them responsible to make known the meaning of such scriptures to all members of the household of faith and to all persons of goodwill. This constitutes giving them “meat in due season.”” [Watchtower 1943, p. 203, underlining added]

    How is this different from any other religion whom the Watchtower Society itself would accuse of being a false prophet?

    If God revealed it, how can it be anything other than inspired and infallible?

    It’s an interesting line they walk. They claim not to be inspired, but they speak with the same amount of authority as if they are. They demand they be considered as if inspired, not even allowing the flock to question or have doubts about anything they teach without coming under scrutiny. Yet when accused of being false prophets, they then beg off from responsibility, escaping under a manufactured definition of what the word “prophet” means, suggesting that prophet doesn’t necessarily suggest divinely inspired prophet.


    “The "prophet" proclaimed the message given to him...(See Num. 12:6, 8.) Thus a prophet was a spokesman for God; he spoke in God's name and by his authority (Ex. 7:1).”

    The meaning is not complex. Clearly this definition fits the position the Watchtower Society itself admits it has assumed. Again quoting from the 1943 Watchtower, “…he makes them responsible to make known the meaning of such scriptures…”

    And what does the Bible say about such ones?
    20 "'However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.' [Deuteronomy 18:20-22, NWT Reference Bible]

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    Quack for yourself Buster

  • Glander
    Glander

    The borg. of course counts on the r&f interpreting the quacking and waddling as ducks.

    My son in law is a duck hunter and has had great success with duck calls and decoys.

    His duck sausage is sublime.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    "There's the duck, right over there!
    Well, what are you waiting for? Shoot him. Shoot him!"

  • Terry
    Terry

    Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?

    That is the question the GB asks the JW members.

    I first discovered the mythology of the religion when I studied the older publication while serving my sentence in prison.

    I was completely unaware until then the leaders had seen themselves as specifically referred to in scripture; they themselves

    were the object of bible writer's predictions about the end times.

    Applying scripture to YOURSELF is a pretty good indicator of megalomania.

    Megalomania and total lack of empathy for the suffering you cause in others is a prettty good symptom of SOCIOPATHY.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Terry - "Megalomania and total lack of empathy for the suffering you cause in others is a prettty good symptom of sociopathy."

    Hard to argue with that.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, what is it?

    Quack!

  • TotallyADD
    TotallyADD

    Terry. Dosen't the Wt. say the reason they are not a cult is because they don't follow a man. But what you just brought out shows they are a cult by what they stated? Or am I not looking at it right? Totally ADD

  • Oculos Aperire
    Oculos Aperire

    @ Terry:

    How did you manage to get hold of earlier publications while in jail? Is it not difficult to get anything in there at all let alone such rather specialist literature such as this?

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    From WIKI on Dissocial Personality Disorder :

    "It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

    1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others;
    2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations;
    3. Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them;
    4. Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence;
    5. Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment;
    6. Marked readiness to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society."

    Which of the above , in some measure, does not apply to the GB ?

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