Ok here is how it went.
Sometime during the week two JWs came a knocking on my door and we had a discussion. They asked me if they could come back on sunday and I said yes.
I cleaned up the living room because my little sister made it a mess and I got ready for the four o'clock meeting.
They got there at 4:45. I was a little annoied at that because I thought that they werent coming back. But any ways when they did, the annoing feeling was all forgotten.
My father was in the living room watching golf and he said that he wasent moving so that caused a bit of a problem and I had asked them to wait outside for a minute while I rectified the problem. My father still wouldent budge so I had to ask them to come in and sit there in the living room with my dad in front of the television. That dident seem to be a problem though so I invited them in.
I really really dont want to type out all of that transpired because I dont have that kinda time to waste. I wasa going to see if could get a tape recorder but that fell through.
So i'll just give you the main details.
Quick summary:
The daughter did most of the talking.
Our discussion focused around.
False prophesy.
Shunning.
Lying. [Theocratic War Stragety]
United Nations.
Psychological Coercion.
Persecution.
False prophesy.
This had absolutely no impact on either of them what so ever.
According to there logic anybody can predict the end of the world, but once something big happens its ok.
They said:Look the deciples did it.
I asked them to show me where in the bible did the deciples prediced the end of the world.
They showed me Acts 1:6-7, and told me that the deciples thought that the Kindom would be established in their lifetime.
So then I read the above verses and I think it applied to the Kingdom of God being established. And in HEAVEN at that. So what was the fslse expectation?
Then they said: dont worry about that dont you see that they were mistaken?
I gave them a blank stare because I had absolutely no idea where they got that notion from reading that verse.
That was the first time I saw rose tinted glases in action. Because there they were telling me that the bible said this when it actually said that. I thought my gf was bad but they really made her look like a genius. Because she actually listens and makes sense. But they on the other hand...
Shunning.
This topic was quickly thown out.
We only do what the Bible says that you should do.
To me it made nosense going into that topic because i knew that they wouldtry to pretty it up. And I dident even want to gointo the context of the situation because they wouldent get it.
Lying
They had absolutely no idea what Theocratic War Stragety was, or at least they pretended as much.
So I had to abandon the topic.
[red]United Nations.
I struck oil with this one.
After explaining to them what an NGO was and how difficult it was to become associated as one. I got a fairly captive audience.
They are even coming back for proof!
I told them that I read it from a Newspaper called [i8]The Guardian[/i] that the Watchtower itself quotes from.
I said that the title was something like "Hypocrite Jehovahs Witnesses get Dissociated from the UN DPI."
Then she started to explain to me that they could have just become registered so that they could send food into some country that needed food or in order to enter some country that the Witnesses were prohibited in.
But anyway they dident believe it but they still want proof.
So tomorrow i'll get as much info about the UN as I can so that when they come back I will have proof.
Psychological Coercion.
The daughter stopped me as soon as I said the word 'Coercion.'
She wanted to make it clear to me that No Body Forces You to Join the Witnesses. It is Your Own Decision.
So with that kinda attitude I got absolutely nowhere. Dident even get to say Mindcontroll.
Persecution.
She some how wants to get me to believe that they are the most persecuted religion on earth.
So I asked her what about the Jews?
Then she said that they were the ONLY RELIGION SPEAKING OUT ABOUT WHAT HITLER WAS DOING TO THE JEWS BACK IN THE 1940's.
So I asked her:
' Do you have a 1934 year book?'
She said no not presonally but that the kingdom hall should have one.
I told her that that topic would take alot more than hour to discuss so I dropped it.
Lessons Learned.
Jehovahs Witnesses are the most difficult people on earth to talk to.
They do not make sense out of anything.
You are wasting your breath trying to Witness to one.
They somehow never seem to get the point about anythinhg that you are saying.
You have to keep bringing them point of the matter you brought up.
They are so proud of the fact that only they have the truth, it is inconseiveable that anyone could be right about anything pertaining to the bible but them.
You should have a computer in the room, but even then it wont matter.
Problems faced.
You are expected to believe everything they say without question.
Their logic fails me.
They lie, and dont even bat an eye when their doing it.
They dont usually know what it is that your talking about so most of the time you get a blank stare.
Once you become a Witness its all over.
Plan of action.
Prevention is better than cure.
I personally wont waste anymore time trying to talk to any of them nless I think that they are ready to hear it.
But I may ocascionally anwser the door once in a while to listen to what they have to say and to take their magaziens and preserve them for evidence.
I'll just warn all of my friends and family about them but other than that i'm not going out of my way to talk to anyone as stubbourn as they are.
jerome.
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
