Kafka would appreciate this --getting off the grid.

by Glander 18 Replies latest social current

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    In Colorado it was illegal to store or reuse grey water, or even rainwater. This water did not actually belong to the individual. I thought that was insane.

  • Glander
    Glander

    Yes, Lisa. That law about runoff from one's property has been around for awhile. Catching water from your house gutters and using it for irrigation of landscape, etc. is illegal and can subject the owner to fines.

    The entire global warming scam is nothing more than a glorified version of this kind of manipulation that comes down to money to feed bureaucracies.

  • designs
    designs

    Uh oh Glander rode off the rails

  • Glander
    Glander

    Uh oh Glander rode off the rails

    LOL No, I just put things in perspective.

    Wise up

  • designs
    designs

    I know China shouldn't cough cough worry about the cough smog from their cough cough coal power cough plants

  • Glander
    Glander

    Over the last couple of decades the average auto costs twice as much, is smaller, and gets double mileage.

    So gasoline costs more than twice as much.

    China is a false equivolent. The Kyoto Protocol never fooled anyone.

  • jgnat
  • Glander
    Glander

    Yes, wind and solar are only useful when there is wind or sunshine. The Bonneville hydroelectric facility in Oregon has produced uninterrupted power for decades by harnessing the flow of the giant Columbia river. Now that wind farms are sprouting all over eastern Oregon when wind meets a certain output for a certain amount of time, Bonneville must interrupt the power from clean flowing water and bring the wind power into the grid. It is terribly inefficient and expensive. Solar and wind are heavily subsidized through investment tax credits and the manufacturers of the pinwheels are cleaning up. They kill millions of birds and produce sound pollution for anyone unfortunate enough to live within their "humming" zone.

    Storage of power is the problem. The battery solution is pie in the sky and will never happen on a scale to satisfy power needs to equal existing hydro, fossil fuel sources.

  • designs
    designs

    Well if power banks, megawatt capacitors and batteries, can be localized to small communities and business districts we could see greater efficiency.

    It is wasteful to send electricity hundreds of miles to a destination, 50% line loss, but local power supplied by solar can be used in the daytime and stored for night use.

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