WTS is ADVERTISING in local newspapers

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  • jwleaks
  • still thinking
    still thinking

    This isn't a paid advertisement, just a news story.

    You could be right. I had a look at the last article they did in a previous issue and it had a similar layout with a big advertisement for it on the front page and the main article on page 5. But I'm not sure to be honest. That paper has been printing advertisements as though they are articles for some time now. Thats why I hardly read it any more. I just happened to pick todays up and look at it.

    But seriously...WhyTF would they even do this article? Unless.....they have been visited a few times and decided these guys need promoting.

    Seeing this in my local paper was the weirdest thing. And the article is so pro JW. Completely biased towards them being polite, well dressed (which is debateable lol) and unarmed (that's just a strange thing to say here).

    And the article goes on to show how safe their blood doctrines are because medicine now offers bloodless treatments.

    Quote from parents that denied their two year old a blood transfusion for her kidney disease last year: "Mr Smith says difficult situations can arise but the medical fraternity has "developed ways to treat us according to our beliefs"

    Difficult situations????? Seriously????? This is their childs life they had put in danger.

    Makes you want to throw up doesn't it?

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    I don't know who the writer Clara Pratt is, but if you look closely she's done a bit of a hatchet job...sizemik

    I've been searching the internet for information on who Clara Pratt is. Do you think its this person?

    http://www.ssc.govt.nz/node/7946

    JWleaks....Thanks for that link. I'll copy the info here for people who can't see it. I'm not so sure about it being balanced though...LOL. Do you think they could help solve the auckland housing crisis?

    This is th cV for Clara Pratt

    http://mixidj.delta-search.com/?q=clara+pratt+western+leader+nz&s=web&as=0&rlz=0&babsrc=SP_ss

    That would explain the American touch with the comment about 'being unarmed'

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Here is the full article for those who can't see it.

    Jehovah's Witnesses explain beliefs

    I must have been 16 when I first hid from a Jehovah's Witness.

    I was at home on study leave when two men in white shirts approached the front door.

    My time at Catholic school informed my suspicions about who these men were. As they politely rang the doorbell I froze.

    Filled with guilt I didn't move until I heard them leave.

    I know people who've been caught in their underwear making breakfast and others who've hidden in plain sight to avoid the Jehovah's message.

    It's a scenario Jehovah's Witness elder Terry Smith can relate to.

    "Before we were Jehovah's Witnesses my wife used to hide," he chuckles.

    "Sometimes we get toddlers answer the door saying ‘mummy said to say she's not home'."

    "If people feel too nervous to come to the door it's not a major, we usually leave some literature or call them later on."

    For many West Aucklanders this is likely to be the only experience they've had with the religion which arrived in New Zealand in 1903 with two members.

    In 1940 the faith was declared illegal in New Zealand, with the attorney general saying its members devoted themselves to "vilification of religion, of their fellow-citizens, of the state, and of the Government".

    Mr Smith says the outlawing was because witnesses would not go to war.

    The religion is no longer illegal and in 2006 there were about 18,000 Jehovah's Witnesses across the country, meeting in about 100 Kingdom Halls.

    The end is near

    Mr Smith is an elder at the Waimauku Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall.

    An elder is a spiritually mature man who guides other witnesses through spiritual teaching.

    Jehovah's Witnesses believe the bible was inspired by God and is historically accurate.

    Their belief system based on the bible's principles differs markedly to the perceived norms of today's society.

    Members do not celebrate Christian holidays or birthdays, vote or salute national flags and believe the end of the world is near.

    Perhaps the most controversial is the refusal to give blood or be given a blood transfusion, even if it will save a person's life.

    This principle came into the public spotlight last year when the parents of a 2-year-old Auckland girl suffering a rare kidney disease wouldn't allow her to receive a life-saving blood transfusion following a kidney and liver transplant.

    The case went before the High Court and the toddler was placed into the guardianship of the court, and doctors were given consent to treat the child.

    Mr Smith says difficult situations can arise but the medical fraternity has "developed ways to treat us according to our beliefs".

    "Hospitals are developing ways to perform bloodless surgeries offered to Jehovah's Witnesses. We believe the soul represents the whole person and blood represents the life force of the person."

    He says while many people feel the Bible is out of date, Jehovah's Witnesses feel the opposite.

    "We apply its principles in all situations in our life to overcome obstacles," he says.

    "There are so many stresses on people today. Everyone we call on has their fair share of problems with money, crime or family.

    "We feel there has never been a more appropriate time for us."

    Jehovah's Witnesses believe "the end of the system is near" and according to Mr Smith, this is not cause for concern.

    "We don't mean the literal end of the world but the end of the system means the removal of wickedness in the world and God's government becoming the world's government."

    Knock knock

    Geoff and Denese Clarke are pioneers.

    But unlike the term used to describe Sir Ed, Jehovah's pioneers are the members who have the daunting task of going into the wider community to spread their religious message.

    But the couple say despite the dogs, the rejection and sometimes abuse, its a task they are proud to do.

    As auxiliary pioneers they spend 20 hours a week sharing what they describe as "the good news".

    This work is unpaid and the couple work part-time installing medical alarms to afford the necessities of life.

    "I used to a be a business analyst and my wife worked in decor and design when our children were at home," Mr Clarke says.

    "But we felt like there was something better we could do with our time.

    "We have been cleaners as well so we can do this work. Even though we have to make sacrifices, we think we are getting a good deal," he says.

    Reading the Bible every day and discussing its meaning is an important part of family life, Mrs Clarke says.

    "Our children aren't deprived by us not celebrating birthdays. We have a family day on that day and we give gifts spontaneously, not because we have to on a specific day."

    Fellow pioneer Louise Peat says they do face challenges going door to door.

    "You do occasionally come across someone abusive.

    "We don't take it personally.

    "You have to defuse the situation with kindness and sometimes you feel sorry for them because you wonder what is going on in their life to make them react that way.

    "We can go into rough areas but you look past that and don't judge the situation, we just work with the person."

    Pioneers go across New Zealand and all over the world to spread their message. They even visit prisons and businesses.

    On a typical house visit, a pioneer will offer the person religious literature published by the Jehovah's Witness organisation. This is often a magazine titled The Watchtower which looks at modern issues in today's societies with a religious slant, published in 209 languages across 45 million copies.

    "If people are genuinely not interested and don't want to be called on, we respect that and will leave them be," Mrs Peat says.

    "But you also find that you end up becoming a listening ear for people if they are going through something at that moment."

    Glen Eden pioneer Robyn Tusa, who became a Jehovah's Witness as an adult says they don't force people to listen to their message.

    "People are pretty relaxed out west. We are taught to read faces and pick up signs about when people won't be interested."

    Waimauku elder Mr Smith says the ultimate aim of door-knocking the community is to follow the important commandment.

    "We just want to share the good news and do as Jesus said, love your neighbour. We don't want to force people to become a Jehovah's Witness."

    Ready steady build

    Auckland's housing crisis could probably be solved if Jehovah's Witnesses were on the case.

    Under the quick-build system, witnesses are able to put up their Kingdom Hall buildings in a weekend.

    Teamwork is crucial for Jehovah's Witnesses and trade skills are popular among the congregation, Mrs Peat says.

    Waimauku's Kingdom Hall was the first hall in New Zealand built under the quick-build system in 1987.

    Glen Eden's equivalent was built in 1993 and follows a more modern Kingdom Hall design, she says.

    "From the foundations to the landscaping, the work is started on a Thursday or Friday and completed by the weekend. Sometimes people can get quite shocked to see a building go up that fast."

    The buildings are funded by the congregation through donations and with loan assistance from the Society Kingdom Hall Fund, used for hall building around the world.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/western-leader/8737182/Jehovahs-Witnesses-explain-beliefs

  • Listener
    Listener

    Unarmed? Their bags are full of poisonous magazines.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    LOL...that is true. Just as well not many people actually read the western leader any more isn't it. It has shrunk so much over the last couple of years it pretty much just consists of advertising. And that issue only has 12 pages.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Generally the standard of journalism is pretty low here in NZ. Fairfax's growing dominance hasn't (ahem) arrested the decline.

    Let's just say the media here is very selective . . . they can swing/polarise public opinion ... and often do.

    The systemic problems brought to light in OZ haven't been exposed here in the same way ... the public have been given other things to get upset and worry about. The JW's are almost invisible to the average person ... I still meet people who have never heard of them. The Destiny Church, a homegrown cult, gets 10x more exposure.

    I'm not convinced this article presents such a great picture. To me, the article makes them appear very fringe, with a dodgy history, and a wacky fundie doctrine. The mugshots are a touch creepy ... they could have chosen better photos. The man-in-black advert is an odd way to soften your image lol. If I'd never heard of them ... I doubt this would have me eagerly awaiting there next visit ... probably more likely to just not bother answering the door.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    LOL . . . check out there FB page . . . some interesting comments appearing.

    http://www.facebook.com/Westernleader?filter=1

    ED: I added mine: I was one for 20+ years. It's a cult. Avoid them.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Is it possible that some JW is employed by this newpaper and was able to encourage them to do a nice big article?

    If they allow readers to write in and make comments, many tactful letters need to be sent from local area readers to tell the other side of the story.

    NO HATE MAIL.

    Doc

  • blondie
    blondie

    advertising = they paid for it

    news item = they did not pay for it

    The WTS annually submits information PR to local papers hoping the papers will choose to see it as newsworthy. Many papers have a free section for announcement of religious events. They also cover community events.

    In this area it varies...more articles when the convention was held in town...now in Dekalb Illinois, so any bigger items are printed near there.

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