Have the leaders of JWs ever said 'sorry'?

by JWB 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Quendi
    Quendi

    With your permission, Designer Stubble, I am copying your post in toto and sending it to a number of friends who I believe should read this. Many will benefit from it while I hope others will see it as food for thought. I also remember 1980 as being a year of considerable tumult in the organization. The WTS admitted some responsibility for the 1975 fiasco verbally during that summer’s district conventions although it did so in a way as to put some blame still on the rank-and-file for ‘running ahead.’ Nevertheless, the damage and harm that were done by the buildup for 1975 were never completely admitted or apologized for.

    Instead, what we have seen in the nearly forty years which have passed have been a perpetuation and intensification of the evils decried in The Plain Truth magazine. Both the WTS and the Worldwide Church of God tread the same path in that regard, the big difference being the repentance and begging for pardon and forgiveness on the WCG’s part for its egregious sins and errors. You are right to say that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses will never humble themselves to do the same.

    Words like “adjustment” and “new light” provide convenient cover for an organization which has never been on the path of truth and enlightenment. Still, I have to remember that when I was a staunch and faithful member of this cult, I found such specious reasoning reassuring. I took comfort in the lie that these changes came from Jehovah himself and were evidence of divine direction and love. Only now, with my shackles removed and eyes opened, can I realize that I was never in a “spiritual paradise.” Instead, I was in a spiritual desert pursuing mirages. I can be thankful that I managed to find my way out and am now treading a more productive life path.

    Quendi

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Nice points.

    I had an Elder tell me, " When this Organization is left standing after the Great Tribulation, we will realize Jesus' has been using it." Yeah, and WHEN the GB are appointed over all Christ's belonging, THEN we will know they are the FDS. How convenient. That apology blew my mind.

    The JW view is to not even read anything on the WCG's apostate website. That way ignorant dubs can be told how lost WCG members are, how arrogant and stubborn their leaders are. It is truly a sad situation.

    This is interesting:

    http://www.npr.org/2013/04/01/175714511/why-not-apologizing-makes-you-feel-better

    "When you refuse to apologize, it actually makes you feel more empowered.

    That power and control seems to translate into greater feelings of self-worth."

    - Tyler G. Okimoto, researcher at the University of Queensland

    Luke 22:

    24 However, there also arose a heated dispute among them over which one of them seemed to be greatest. 25 But he said to them: "The kings of the nations lord it over them, and those having authority over them are called Benefactors. 26 YOU, though, are not to be that way. But let him that is the greatest among YOU become as the youngest, and the one acting as chief as the one ministering. 27 For which one is greater, the one reclining at the table or the one ministering? Is it not the one reclining at the table? But I am in YOUR midst as the one ministering.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    GB members, are you listening? Of course not.

    The disappointing history of non-apologies from the WT leadership is one of the main reasons I lost all respect for them.

    Everything about the quote from the 3/15/1980 WT which Designer Stubble cited is a perfect example of a complete failure to take responsibility and admit error. It's actually a wonderful example of rationalization and self-justification. The way the GB equivocates, shifts-blame, deflect and minimize their error actually betray a certain awareness of their wrong coupled with a complete disrespect for truth and the dignity of their followers. They have taken hypocrisy to a new extreme. Politicians should study this as a shining example of the art of lying.

    The WT writers have mastered the art of doublespeak:

    Let's analyze this point-by-point:

    In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth.

    Notice they sort of admit to "setting dates," but immediately minimize by labeling it as mere "attempts." They then excuse it by justifying their acts due to the "desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of ..." everyone on earth. OK, so it's acceptable to be wrong because they had the welfare of all humans in mind. I don't think so. Remember, according to their "theology" God's going to kill 99.99% of all humans at Armageddon.

    Also, notice that the wrapped this minimalistic admission of error in a blanket of "eagerness" which is further dressed in a garment of "commendability."

    So when you undress this non-apology, you're left with the naked truth: Prophetic error. But they shouldn't be judged for their mistake because they were only being eager, which is commendable, and they really, really, really had the best intentions.

    With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975.

    Ok, let's examine this sentence. First notice the extensive use of the passive voice. Things happened, but apparently no one was responsible for any of them.

    The book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God appeared, as if by divine providence, with no apparent cause. The words in the book apparently did not have human authorship, but the specific passages in question are referred to as "its comments" as if the book gave birth to them itself spontaneously. These "comments," which impose an obviously erroneous prophetic interpretation regarding the millennial reign of Christ as being parallel to the seventh millennium of man’s existence, are surprisingly described as being "appropriate" even though they were wrong. How curious!

    Finally, note again the use of the passive voice used in stating that "considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975" while conspicuously avoiding identifying the actual person or persons responsible. Clearly, it was the book's fault! "Bad book, bad book!"

    There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility.

    Again, the passive voice is used to say, "There were statements made." Who made them? What was there source? Why can't they humbly admit, "We said the wrong thing?" They just can't do it!

    Also, it is telling to notice that--immediately after passively admitting that there "were statements made"--they back-track, minimize and justify claiming that what was stated was "was only a possibility" and they feel the need to remind us that these "statements" which aroused "considerable expectation" actually were always "stressing" that it was "only a possibility." If you missed that extremely important point, then that was your fault.

    Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility.

    Interestingly, we now learn that indeed there were not only "statements made," but also that "there were other statements published" which may have added to the misunderstanding on the part of the JW R&F. Now we must remember that these "other statements" which led millions of people to believe their hopes were "more of a probability than a mere possibility" as in the previous statements were in fact only "implied." So again, the inference upon which millions based their hope was in fact a mistake made by the masses and not the leadership. Again note that this sentence clearly says that these "other statements" were similarly wrapped in a blanket "cautionary information" similar to that discussed in reference to the first sentence.

    Having trouble keeping this all straight? That's their hope!

    Now, let's get to the final sentence of this masterpiece of doublespeak and obfuscation:

    It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

    Ah yes, "It is to be regretted." Such a lovely phrase, is it not? Notice how this actually passes the responsibility of regret from those that should be begging for forgiveness from their followers onto the followers themselves. Now the followers are the ones that supposed to feel regret!

    The message is finally clear: You R&F JWs, how could you have let yourself be misled by these multiple "statements" which in fact only implied "possibilities" and "probabilities" and were served up on a bed of "cautionary information"? What's wrong with you?

    So there we have it. This lovely little gem of a paragraph is one of the closest the WT leadership has ever come to actually taking responsibility and admitting error. But in fact they never actually do either. Instead, in this very carefully worded statement, they minimize and shift-blame, passively pointing to words in a book which no one apparently will admit to writing.

    If and of itself this is shameful proof of religious leaders that have clearly lost the thread. They are more in love with their position, reputation and pride than they are with truth and the values exemplified by the Christ. They clearly have no respect for those they have misled, but instead seek to shift at least some of the blame on to them for basing their hopes on implied possibilities while ignoring alleged "cautionary information."

    When compared to the genuine and specific apology issued by the leaders of the Worldwide Church of God (a supposedly "false religious" sect), we see such a stark contrast that the hypocrisy of the WT leadership is painfully obvious to anyone except those under the influence of cultish mind-control.

    The fact that millions continued to follow the teachings of the WTBTS after this fiasco sadly proves the incredible power mind-control can have on otherwise intelligent human beings.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Quendi: Only now, with my shackles removed and eyes opened, can I realize that I was never in a “spiritual paradise.” Instead, I was in a spiritual desert pursuing mirages. I can be thankful that I managed to find my way out and am now treading a more productive life path.

    What powerful imagery to describe a spiritually dead, ugly and desolated situation pretending to be lush, beautiful and alive.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Here's why they don't apologize and won't have open discussion. It's also how the R&F are really viewed. They owe you nothing. You owe them your life.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Data-dog, I don't get your point.

    I think it's more like the GB that can't handle the truth. It will cause their fantasy to disintegrate and they'd have to face the reality that they are just ordinary--albeit delusional--men that were NOT chosen by God and that one day they will be food for the worms.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Quendi, don't forget the word "clarification" under which the WTS has put many adjustments in the WT-CD index.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Forgiveness is not taught be the wt. Transgessions must be paid for. Perhaps, that is why they don't apologise, admit any mistakes. Since they don't forgive, they likewise don't expect any.

    S

  • blondie
    blondie

    ***w02 11/1 p. 6 Apologizing—A Key to Making Peace ***

    The issue is, not so much who is right and who is wrong, but who will take the initiative to make peace. When the apostle Paul noticed that the Christians in Corinth were taking fellow servants of God to secular courts over such personal differences as financial disagreements, he corrected them: “Why do you not rather let yourselves be wronged? Why do you not rather let yourselves be defrauded?” (1 Corinthians 6:7) Although Paul said this to discourage fellow Christians from airing their personal differences in secular courts, the principle is clear: Peace among fellow believers is more important than proving who is right and who is wrong. Keeping this principle in mind makes it easier to apologize for a wrong that someone thinks we have committed against him or her.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Oubliete,

    Picture yourself trying to get an answer/apology. The GB seem to think that they provide your " blanket of protection ", so how dare you question the manner in which they provide it?! Who do you think you are! They have the burden of protecting the rank and file from the enemy, and from their own hearts. Who's going to do what they can? YOU?! You can't handle it. You don't deserve to know anything but what they decide to tell you. They don't give a damn what YOU think.

    They don't want a Walsh Trial repeat on their hands. That is why they are a theological arrangement/collective that only exists when together. Imagine if you put them on the stand, under oath? Sooner or later the cool facade would wear off, and the meglomania would surface! Sadly they are insulated with more layers than Colonel Jessop! Think of the Elders you would have to make it past first, all acting the same way. Perhaps not as extreme as the above characters, but still.......

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