Is it GOOD that God KILLS BABIES??? Help needed in debate

by Bloody Hotdogs! 42 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    JWfacts hit the real nail on the head. He killed babies and grandmothers but kept virgins...

    ALSO, look at when David sinned with Bathsheba. GOD WAS THE ONE who struck the baby and it suffered a week before dying. How loving.

  • Scully
    Scully

    GOD WAS THE ONE who struck the baby and it suffered a week before dying. How loving.

    And how does it demonstrate JUSTICE to execute an innocent child for the sins of its parents?

  • cofty
    cofty

    Scully - god of the OT didn't ask for child sacrifices but he had no problem commanding Joshua to murder infants en masse.

  • Dismissing servant
    Dismissing servant

    "And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.""


    What's wrong with 32000 virgins? I think Mose and his buddies enjoyed themselves!I just wonder if Mose himself  inspected the hymen of all those virgins!

    In that case he had a lot to do!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    'So, later today she is literally coming over to convince us that killing children is good in certain circumstances. '

    Dunno what can be done w a woman, a mother, who thinks like that.

    S

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    Scully I don't understand your question. You think it's okay to punish a child for its parents sins?

  • sspo
    sspo

    Why would a loving God allow those having financial problems to sell his son or daughter into slavery.

    Could the maker of the universe not provide for hose that love him???....i guess not

    Exodus 21 >>

    7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. 8 If she does not satisfy her owner, he must allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. 9 But if the slave’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave but as a daughter.

    t.

  • Resistance is Futile
    Resistance is Futile

    The Watchtower teaches that the babies brutally murdered at Armageddon will not be resurrected and given the opportunity to worship Jehovah in a paradise earth. Yet people who were gross sinners, even murders, who died before Armageddon will be resurrected. Ask her to explain the logic behind that teaching.

    Ask your mother if she would kill babies if Jehovah commanded it, or if she would refuse based on her morals. That should get her thinking at least a tiny bit.

    She's probably prepared to defend the killing of babies in the OT, and therefore might be caught off guard by a question about baby killing at Armageddon.

    They're great at not actually answering difficult questions, so you'll have to circle back to these tough questions in order to get a direct answer.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Child killing:

    So why did the children died eternally at the flood but

    not

    the Canaanite children the Israelite soldiers killed (slaughtered)

    Why will all the children executed at Sodom and Gomorrah never live again but

    not

    the children who were killed at the first destruction of Jerusalem

    Why will all the children be executed at Armaggeddon never to be resurrected but

    not

    the Israelite children who died at destruction of Jerusalem at 70 C.E.

    Were the children at the flood and at Armaggedon so evil that dying eternally was necessary?

  • blondie
    blondie

    (Deuteronomy 20:10-18) 10 “In case you draw near to a city to fight against it, you must also announce to it terms of peace. 11 And it must occur that if it gives a peaceful answer to you and it has opened up to you, it must even occur that all the people found in it should become yours for forced labor, and they must serve you. 12 But if it does not make peace with you, and it actually makes war with you and you have to besiege it, 13 Jehovah your God also will certainly give it into your hand, and you must strike every male in it with the edge of the sword. 14 Only the women and the little children and the domestic animals and everything that happens to be in the city, all its spoil you will plunder for yourself; and you must eat the spoil of your enemies, whom Jehovah your God has given to you. 15 “That is the way you will do to all the cities very far away from you that are not of the cities of these nations. 16 It is only of the cities of these peoples that Jehovah your God is giving you as an inheritance that you must not preserve any breathing thing alive, 17 because you should without fail devote them to destruction, the Hit′tites and the Am′or·ites, the Ca′naan·ites and the Per′iz·zites, the Hi′vites and the Jeb′u·sites, just as Jehovah your God has commanded you; 18 in order that they may not teach YOU to do according to all their detestable things, which they have done to their gods, and YOU may indeed sin against Jehovah YOUR God.

    When it came to the Canaanite nations, everything was to be destroyed, men, women, children, domestic animals; genocide was the goal not that the Israelites followed through but left some living (and that is not about the Gibeonites).

    But with the non-Canaanite nations, women, children, and domestic animals were taken as plunder.

    That's why in some cases women and children were not destroyed, they were not Canaanites.

    Not that the slaughter was justified in either case.

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