The Church's Biggest Lie

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  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Think you've sorted out the mess that Christianity has become?

    Ever wonder why the other 2/3 of the planet doesn't believe the utter nonsense of "resurrection"??

    Chew on this, Christians:

    http://www.facts-are-facts.com/magazin/6-reincarnation-the-churchs-biggest-lie.ihtml

    In the year 553 A.D., 165 Church officials condemned reincarnation. Prior to that time, it had been a fundamental Christian teaching: following the trail of a conspiracy that changed the world.

    By Benjamin Seiler

    The law of Karma and reincarnation: In an endless cycle, we return to earth until we have learned to control our energies.

    Reincarnation is a fact. That it is no longer a part of today’s Christian beliefs is due to one power-hungry woman who had all references to reincarnation in the early Bible removed. A seemingly small act with historical consequences: how different would the history of the last two millennia have been if mankind had known that they themselves would reap the fruit of their (mis)deeds in a future earthly life—that they would have to sleep in the beds they had made?!

    At the beginning of the Christian era, reincarnation was one of the pillars of belief. Without it (as later happened), Christianity would lose all logic. How could a benevolent, loving God give one person a silver spoon and leave the next to starve in their ostensibly only earthly life? Early Church elders and theologians, like Origenes, Basilides and St Gregory, taught reincarnation of the soul as a matter of course—it was written in the Bible, after all. Nowadays, most Christians suspect blasphemy if someone references reincarnation.

    But let’s return to the 6th century after Christ, where a diabolical conspiracy was hatched in the court of the Byzantine emperor, Justinian, which would hold mankind prisoner in a false understanding of the reality of life and death for 1,400 years. In the generations before that, reincarnation was still an uncontested fact in the Christian church. Instead, whether Jesus had been more man or more God was heavily discussed. Nestorius, Abbot of Antioch, believed that Mary should not be called “the Mother of God”, since she had only given birth to the ‘human’ Jesus. But a Council declared Nestorius a heretic, sent him into the desert, and determined that Jesus was simultaneously human and divine. One of Nestorius’ bitterest opponents was Eutyches, who, on the other hand, believed that Jesus was only divine, as his human nature was completely subsumed in the divine. Today we call this teaching monophysitism (that is, the teaching that Christ’s two natures are joined into a new single human-divine nature). In 451, the Fourth Ecumenical Council (also known as the Council of Chalcedon) condemned monophysitism as heresy and persecuted its advocates. One of the most zealous persecutors was the later Emperor Justinian.

    The Council of 451 Emphasises the Law of Reincarnation

    As already mentioned, during these religious controversies, reincarnation was never once a topic of discussion. It was held to be a fundamental dogma , which was even reinforced by the Council of 451. Who could have imagined then that Christian theology would so essentially change with the ascension of Justinian to the throne of the Eastern Roman Empire in 527 and what profound repercussions the following centuries would suffer as a result?

    The real actor in the shadows was a woman: Theodora, Emperor Justinian’s wife. She had made a sharp social ascent—and this daughter of a bear tamer from the Constantinople circus had used a woman’s oldest weapon to make her climb. Earlier, she had been a young and beautiful prostitute whose services were happily sought by the aristocracy. Hacebolus, the young governor of Pentapolis, fell for her charms and took Theodora with him to North Africa. But she abused the governor’s trust and, at the people’s cost, amassed great riches. When, in her greed, she overstepped the mark and Hacebolus was overwhelmed with complaints from the people, he threw Theodora out of his palace and confiscated all her goods. With only the clothes on her back, she fought her way through to Alexandria. At the gates to the city, she was taken in by a hermit named Eutyches. It was the same Eutyches who had originated monophysitism and was now living out his exile there. Later, Theodora would remember this fallen monk and use him to carry out her dark plans.

    Back in Constantinople, she purposefully slept her way up the ladder of society, becoming one of Justinian’s concubines, then his favourite concubine, and, finally, in 523, his wife. Four years later, she and her husband assumed the highest position of power in the secular world: the imperial crown.

    Empress Theodora Seeks Her Own Apotheosis

    Theodora succeeded—well, almost. Her burning ambition pushed her ever further. There was one final step to be climbed: her own deification. Only then would she be equal with the Caesars of old. It wasn’t really that long before that the Roman Emperors were automatically deified and received a place of worship in the temple halls. Christianity had brought an end to this custom. And it was precisely on this point that the biblically recognised fact of reincarnation provided a stumbling block: For how could a woman enter eternity as a goddess when everyone was supposed to be reborn? What could prevent the errant empress from being reborn as a completely normal person—even as a simple beggar? Theodora knew that as long as reincarnation was anchored fast in Christian consciousness, the people would never accept her as a goddess. And so the doctrine of reincarnation had to be completely blotted out.

    Theodora selected the monophysitist monks, who were soon to be pardoned from their excommunications, as willing helpers. They were to ensure that every teaching of reincarnation completely disappeared from all church documents.

    You might think that such a request wouldn’t be possible—on a practical level alone. But Theodora had spread her own network of agents over the entire empire and took care that ‘her’ monks, little by little, took over leadership of the Church. And the entire power of the Byzantine Empire was at her service, for Justinian had already become her willing tool.

    The Emperor—Possessed?

    But it was not earthly power alone that accomplished this evil. Demonic forces were working behind the scenes, powers that saw their chance and knew how to take advantage of it. Because if it is possible to take away mankind’s belief in the atonement of their misdeeds and the resulting reincarnation, then not only can you subvert their sense of responsibility, but you also make them helpless and insignificant. The people will forget their true divine goal (to someday become gods and goddesses themselves), giving themselves over to the mercy of an external god and forgetting their own divinity. They wait for a salvation that will never come, because in reality, each person can only save himself. Such an humanity will easily surrender the world to evil.

    The powers of darkness had found two helpers with tremendous influence in Theodora and Justinian. So it isn’t really surprising that both of them were reported to be possessed. The contemporary historian Procopius offers many examples in his Apocrypha . He tells of a monk who travelled to Constantinople to present the case of a farmer who had suffered an injustice. He was immediately admitted, but just as he entered the throne room, he cringed and withdrew, refusing to appear before the Emperor, and rushed fearfully back to his room. Once there, he told the chamberlain that he had seen the ‘Lord of Demons’ sitting on the throne and his presence was so terrible that he was not able to bear it. We should bear in mind that clairvoyance was more prevalent at that time. The demon that the monk saw was by no means a product of his imagination, but a reality from the astral realm that we are not usually able to perceive today.

    At another point, Procopius quotes Justinian’s mother who once confessed to her confidantes that Justinian was not her husband, Sabbatius’, son, nor that of any other man, but that he was sired by a demon.

    Whatever you might think about these reports, Theodora and Justinian’s actions were definitely diabolical. In order to accomplish their plans, Theodora first had to bring the Western Church (of the fallen Western Roman Empire) under her control. Flavius Belisarius’ armies helped her in this by securing Byzantine influence in Rome and enabling Theodora’s perfidy of deposing the Pope. One of the empresses’ favourites assumed the position.

    After she had thus dispensed with the opposition of the Western Church, Theodora concentrated once again on Constantinople and, with the help of her puppet, the Patriarch Mennas, she convened the Synod of the Eastern Church of Constantinople (543 A.D.). This Council revoked the condemnation of monophysitism as well as the affirmation of reincarnation, codified in 451 A.D. This was the first deathblow to the doctrine of reincarnation.

    The Synod, however, was not binding for the almost 3,000 bishops spread across the Empire. And so a Council was called to sanction the decisions. Invitations were sent to all bishops, but they were written so that one could hope that none of the bishops of the Western Church would participate. Pope Virgilius, Theodora’s accomplice, condemned the letters in the harshest terms and thereby strengthened the resolve of many bishops not to attend.

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    R eincarnation Is Not Being Born Again!

    T he author of this article has studied both the early Christian teachings of the Church Fathers as well as the Eastern religions. In the Occident and Orient alike, they not only knew of the fact that every person passes through many earthly lives, but also that we will one day arrive at the point when we are born again. But what does this mean exactly?

    http://www.facts-are-facts.com/magazin/6-reincarnation_is_not_being_born_again.ihtml

    By Dr. Jürgen Pfestorf

    If you were to ask your neighbour, friend, or colleague what they understood by ‘rebirth’ or ‘being born again’, you would be amazed at the variety of answers. Assuming they don’t just uncomprehendingly stare at you like you’re a crazy person, these answers could range from total denial to faithful conviction to—if you’re lucky—well-founded knowledge.

    When we look in the Gospels, the biblical core of Christian belief, the first step is to distinguish between reincarnation and rebirth. ‘Well, aren’t they the same?” you might very well ask. Not at all!

    In Plato’s Academy [1] , philosophical education usually began (and at that time philosophy still included all the sciences) with a discussion about what the term actually meant. Without conscious agreement on what certain terms mean, misunderstandings will be the order of the day. This school existed from 327 B.C. to 529 A.D. and it contributed greatly to the understanding of the messages from the angelic realm (= Evangelists). But wait, isn’t Christianity about faith? What does philosophy have to do with faith? Well… the churches have broken their sheep of the habit of thinking in matters of faith, even going so far as to view it as harmful. The priests much prefer to talk of the “Mystery of Faith”. The church congregation should believe, not understand.

    But faith answers little if there is not previously an attempt, in the right way, to understand. Whoever takes the challenge of the evangelists seriously, to strive to know Christ (see, for example, John 17:3), cannot do otherwise than to take the first step of defining terms.

    Reincarnation

    At that time, reincarnation was a matter of course for most Palestinians. Even if it was somewhat repressed in the gospels by later corrections and deletions in the canonical texts, it was not possible to completely eliminate the fact of reincarnation. This can be seen, for example, in the so-called conversation of the Sadducees and their question regarding the Resurrection (e.g. Mark 12:18-27). That there was a sect at the time that denied the Resurrection (by which is actually meant reincarnation)—and that that was what they were known for—clearly shows that this denial was not a well-established conviction.

    Another example: Jesus the Christ says in Matthew 11:13-14, “For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come.” So Jesus explains to the disciples that his contemporary, John the Baptist, had already come to the world in a previous life as the Prophet Elias. It is not possible to speak more clearly of reincarnation, even if we are talking about the re-embodiment of a prophet in this case.

    Reincarnation is, as the Latin root re-incarnare shows, the “again-becoming-flesh” of the spirit and the soul from the spiritual world. That is: the return to the earthly world, with all your baggage—which we usually call ‘fate’ or ‘karma’. Fate encompasses the birth time and place, the historical situation in terms of mankind’s development, the cosmic constellation, being born into a given family with its genetic store, the spiritual and social environment, the abilities acquired in previous incarnations in the corresponding fields (talents), and the physical constitution. All of these things are determined by our thoughts, words, actions, and attitude in previous incarnations.

    From this perspective, reincarnation is a divine gift that we are allowed to use for our continued progression.

    Sooner or later, every person will have to come to terms with developing the Christ within: man’s true goal. But it could be that in a particular incarnation very different assignments or life paths are imposed that don’t necessarily lead to a knowledge of the Christ, but rather to a ‘completing’ of the wealth of experiences of one’s own self on a very worldly level in any given lifetime.

    The ‘self’ referred to here is the person’s individuality in the spiritual world that develops itself over the course of many incarnations. A person’s personality—as opposed to individuality—is the “mask” (the meaning of the word-root) behind which we develop ourselves in physical life, and which is set aside at death so that new life can come into existence.

    Let it be noted that there are frequent misunderstandings on this point. In the physical world we are always connected with the spiritual world. The spiritual world “carries” the physical one and permeates it to its finest layers. Anyone who denies this—such as the Catholic Church, which suggests that the individual is destroyed with the death of the personality, can only “resurrect” at the end of days, and in the same physical clothing that it wore at death (!)—brutally contradicts the evangelists and the epistles of Paul. Paul wrote in his admonition to the Corinthians: “Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Cor 15:50).

    Rebirth—Being Born Again

    Once we have defined reincarnation in its most basic meaning (i.e. the re-embodiment in the flesh), the question remains: what then is rebirth? Because man is fundamentally invested in development (evolution), it follows that we should use the gift of reincarnation for our higher spiritual development. When you look at it the right way, rebirth is hard and consistent work on ourselves, even a work that will lead to a rebirth in Christ during our earthly existence. This might initially be hard to understand, but will become clearer in the following text.

    Man’s training (referred to above) to guide him to insight into the spiritual worlds usually has the following progression: preparation, enlightenment, and initiation. This is true for all the Mysteries, even non-Christian ones. Pythagoras (c. 570-500 B.C.) divided his Golden Verses into Preparation, Cleansing, and Completion. The evangelists describe many ways to come closer to the Christ and, finally, consciously become one with Him. Examples: The internalisation in the seven “I AM” Sayings in the Gospel of John, the experience of the content of the Sermon on the Mount, and the suffering of the Passion of Jesus Christ in seven steps: Washing of the Feet, Flagellation, Crown of Thorns, Crucifixion, mystical Death, Entombment, Resurrection, and Ascension. [2]

    Well, you can extrapolate this from the Gospels when you read them insightfully. But is rebirth directly addressed in the texts?

  • Sulla
    Sulla

    Yes, of course the earliest Christians were Pythagoreans who only gradually -- after adoption as the state religion of Rome -- adopted the Jewish belief in the resurrection of the body. That's not nakedly absurd at all.

  • soontobe
    soontobe

    The Church never taught reincarnation, although some groups, gnostics, manicheans, etc, did.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+9%3A27&version=NIV

    Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment...

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    Reincarnation is a fact. That it is no longer a part of today’s Christian beliefs is due to one power-hungry woman who had all references to reincarnation in the early Bible removed.

    What was that thing that skeptics keep throwing at Christians about extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence? We have thousands of New Testment manuscripts dating back as far as the 2nd century, and not one mentions reincarnation anywhere. We also have the writings of early church Fathers dating back to people who were contemporary with the Apostles, and again, there is no mention of reincarnation. By the 6th century, when reincarnation was supposedly "removed" from the Bible, the canon had been fixed and copies of the Bible were distributed throughout the civilized world. Are we to assume that one "power-hungry woman" had the ability to gather up every copy of the Bible in the world and change them all so that not even one manuscript remained that reflected this "pillar of belief" of the early church, and also somehow managed to alter all the writings of the early Fathers? You might as well try to alter the Bible today by gathering up all the copies and changing them.

    Even the Gnostic gospels, which were about as mainstream to Christianity as the average issue of the Watchtower, don't reflect a belief in reincarnation. The "facts" stated in this article are simply false. The Chalcedon council did not endorse reincarnation, nor was it a topic of discussion there (or did the "power-hungry woman" somehow alter all the records of that council, too?). Whoever wrote this article is either massively ignorant of church history or is simply being deceptive.

    Or is this supposed to be like the old joke, where someone claims that reincarnation was taught in the Bible but was removed by the church, and when asked how he knows that the church removed it, answers, "Because it's not there."?

  • soontobe
    soontobe

    Here's Irenaeus. 2nd Century AD:

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/irenaeus/advhaer2.txt

    CHAP. XXXIII.--ABSURDITY OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRANSMIGRATION OF SOULS.
  • soontobe
    soontobe

    Here's Tertullian, also 2nd Century:

    http://www.tertullian.org/articles/reeve_apology.htm

    CHAPTER XLVIII.

    CONCERNING THE RESURRECTION OF THE BODY.

    LET us now consider a little the different treatment of a philosopher
    and a Christian. If a philosopher affirms, as Laberius from Pytha-
    goras has done, that after death the soul of a man departs into a
    mule, and that of a woman into a serpent, and turns all the sails
    of eloquence to carry this absurd point, shall not he find credit,
    and harangue some of you into abstinence even from the flesh of
    animals ? And will not many scruple to eat a piece of beef, for
    fear of eating a piece of their ancestors ?

  • poppers
  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    We have thousands of New Testment manuscripts dating back as far as the 2nd century, and not one mentions reincarnation anywhere.

    Who is "we"? Lol... the Catholic Church? Sorry, but that simply isn't true.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen03.html

    http://worldvisionportal.org/WVPforum/viewtopic.php?t=64

    We also have the writings of early church Fathers dating back to people who were contemporary with the Apostles, and again, there is no mention of reincarnation.

    Sorry again, but that isn't true either.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen06.html

  • mP
    mP

    The biggest lie is the bible is from God. COntradictions, inconsistencies, lack of technology and science, being filled with morals compatible with ancients show it is the work of those times.

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