Porneia in marriage - a changing view:

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  • irondork
    irondork

    mP: Lesbianism is never mentioned anywhere in the Bible, let alone is there any proclamation against it. Given people were poor and lived in small tents in the past, if a husband had many wives they must have all seen the other women naked at sometime. Thats just a fact of life.

    Actually, lesbianism is mentioned at Romans 1, where heterosexual women are admonished not to violate their natural sexual orientation in favor of having sex that is unnatural for them. Same with men.

    Also, the customs of the day were such that a man with multiple wives, had multiple tents. Each wife had her own bed (and tent - or at the very least a private chamber within a large tent) and the man is the one who went bed-hopping. If he was too poor to have more tents then he was too poor to have more wives.

  • mP
    mP

    IRON:

    Actually, lesbianism is mentioned at Romans 1, where heterosexual women are admonished not to violate their natural sexual orientation in favor of having sex that is unnatural for them. Same with men.

    MP: WHich scripture exactly ?

    IRON:

    Also, the customs of the day were such that a man with multiple wives, had multiple tents.

    MP:

    We know that didnt always happen.

  • mP
    mP

    mP: Lesbianism is never mentioned anywhere in the Bible, let alone is there any proclamation against it. Given people were poor and lived in small tents in the past, if a husband had many wives they must have all seen the other women naked at sometime. Thats just a fact of life.

    IRON

    Actually, lesbianism is mentioned at Romans 1, where heterosexual women are admonished not to violate their natural sexual orientation in favor of having sex that is unnatural for them. Same with men.

    MP:

    I think the scripture your referrng to is...

    http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/romans/1

    That is why God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; 27

    Firstly Paul doenst actually say what sexual practice he is dicussing. Is it animals, mixing races, prostitution or what ? You are making assumptions which are wrong particularly given that homosexuality was considered normal and not hidden like what happened say 50 years ago. It would appear th emost repeated sexual warning in the Bible is for jews not to marry pagans or non jews.

    The word lesbian or homosexual does not appear in any form here. Wrong try again.

    and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error.

    Again this does not mention women. I guess this is because women didnt have a brain according to the ancients. As always th ebible onl wlks about women. Anyway the bible has Saul and Samuel naked for a whole night and that is never condemned in the book of Samuel.

    In Genesis we also have Abraham asking for an oath by grabbing his testicles. In fact the word testament comes from this very idea. Today you would think that was gay, but back then it was perfectly fine and considered honorable.

  • tim hooper
    tim hooper

    Why do they always equate sodomy with oral sex?

    Don't they know the difference?

  • piztjw
    piztjw

    Yep...Gotta change things up every so often otherwise you can't keep control.

    One of the worst things that happened to me was the it's okay...no it's not...well it's a little okay, but only if your wife says so...no it's not okay anymore bulls*&t! So needless to say when I told them to take an airborne, intercourse, at a perforated motivated pastry I was the one on the outside.

    Later I still hadn't learned my lesson, yeah I know I'm hard headed, so I dated and then proposed marriage to who I thought was a pretty nice woman. The sheep shearers told her she was free to marry (as if it's any of their business). Then she wasn't free after her ex said he still loved her. He was the one who slept around and walked out on her. Then the CO said she was in fact free. We got married in spite of all the stress that infernal flip-flopping created. Then the local heavies reversed the CO decision and DF'd us both for "fornication" because we married without their express "approval".

    Gawd almighty I hate that kind of small man BS!

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