Who am I? -- Isaiah 49:1-6 Answers...

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  • MDS
    MDS

    Who Am I?

    "...Whom does he claim to be,"

    ... Jehovah's Witnesses ask when they FIRST encounter MDS. They wonder, wonder very much, about his so-called "ministry" he has toward them, namely modern-day "Israel," this people, Jehovah's Witnesses as a nation. And no doubt, they will dismiss him...and his message, of having any REAL MERIT toward them at all. -- Matt. 10:6

    He is a GOD-GIVEN "BRINGER of good news" like Jesus. Yes, he "brings" good news of possible "escape" from a modern-day captor, figurative "Babylon the Great," "Egypt," yes modern-day Babylon the Great [the "great city"] and Egypt of our times. To which they are to be identified fully, to be fully revealed, by the Hand of God. -- Isaiah 41:27; Isaiah 52:7; Luke 4:18; Romans 10:15; Revelation 11:8

    Really, Modern day Jehovah's Witnesses [Israel] will have TWO (2) encounters with him, MDS. Two separate encounters. One, the first one, that CULMINATES in the FALL of the year of 2001, -- a "coming" or "parousia," that "culminates," in this year, His First Coming.

    Then, another "coming" later, a "Second Coming" some time later ... the coming of the Son of Man when he presents "THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN" to all, by the permission of Jehovah God Himself, who is really responsible, "who is doing all of these things," the bringing of a marvelous number, of some 200 million "Gentiles" converts to "complete the number of Israel," yes, to "save Israel," some 200 million people, chosen for His Great and Holy Name. The miraculous work of God! -- Acts 15:17; Matthew 24:30; Romans 11:25, 26

    PLEASE NOTE: This message goes to the 200 Million Gentiles for God's Name, AFTER THE FALL OF 2001, when the "good news" to Israel, its messages is stopped or ceases. After "Israel" invitation has ceased, Jehovah God will indeed go to the "nations," to "take out of them a more deserved, "People for His Name." This "gathering" of the "Gentiles For God's Name," done by Jehovah God, the Almighty Himself, will be complete by the SPRING of 2003...approximately 1 1/2 years or 18 months in duration. This will be the complete fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 and Mark 13:10. This is how these verses are to be completely understood. -- Acts 15:14-18

    It is virtually, a repeat of events of the 1st century "Israel," when "Israel" rejects Jesus' message...God now takes the "message," or the "good news," to a more appreciative people, one who will honor and respect His Lofty Name..."Gentiles." While He himself, rejects the natural nation of "Israel." Israel prefers "idolatry," lawlessness, apostasy and reckless disobedience. God rejects them on this basis, and decides to gather "gentiles" for His Name from among the nations of mankind, outside of Israel, outside of Jehovah's Witnesses, as a nation. -- See Matthew 21:43; Isaiah 65:1, 2; Deuteronomy 32:21.

    So, then, the miraculous "Sign of the Son of Man" then, is the Miraculous, Work of Almighty of God to Gather 200 Million Gentiles for His Name, Proving once and for all, that it is His Name, His Greatness, that is of Vital Importance, the Real Issue at Stake.

    Thus, AFTER Jehovah's Witnesses reject Jehovah God, and His appointed Messiah, He accomplishes this miracle, this "sign," but hidden to the eyes mankind and of course, Jehovah's Witnesses....this "sign," this "sign of the son of man," or the gathering of the 200 Million "Gentiles For God's Name." This miracle this "sign," will remain "hidden," until it is God's Time to reveal, at the "Restoration" of the "woman," when she is released from her "wilderness" stay, and when she has lost all affection for the WTS, -- the one who will be clearly "riding the back of the beast" at that time, giving full allegiance and support to the "Wild Beast." Getting the Mark of the Beast, to the full, the Watchtower Society.

    She must, while in the "wilderness," lose all affection for the wicked Watchtower Society. Then, and only then, can she be "Restored" to God's favor and be permitted to see, witness, this miraculous "sign." Jehovah's Witnesses, and earth's inhabitants will then at that, be permitted to see the "sign of the Son of Man." -- only then...AFTER THE "WOMAN," ISRAEL, is to be spiritually "RESTORED," some years after the "trampling period," of "42 months." Some years after this when she is allowed to come out of the "wilderness" to God's favor. -- Matthew 24:30

    This will be at the "Second coming," of the Son of Man, when he presents for all the world to see, the "Sign of the Son of Man," the UNIFIED CONGREGATION of some 200 Million "Gentiles Converts For God's Name".

    The "Sign of the Son of Man," will only be revealed then. After the "woman," Restoration, spiritual Restoration of the Jehovah's Witnesses as a nation, those that ENDURE their special "ordeal," their "wilderness" stay, that God, has prescribed especially for them. Only then, can they be allowed to see the "Sign of the Son of Man." Only then. -- Matthew 24:30

    So, this message I bear, the "good news", will, indeed be "related" to [Israel] "IN DETAIL," and still, they "will not believe," Jehovah God has said. Thus, after the official rejection, he carries out 2 things, Two things, spoken of in Romans 11:25

    (a) the "dulling of the sensibilities" of Jehovah's Witnesses as a nation...and that's ALL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, all over the earth!

    And,

    (b) the bringing in the "full number of the Gentiles" for God's Holy Name, namely, the 200 million Gentiles that God, Himself collect, in fulfillment of Romans 11:25 and Revelation 9:16.

    All during the same time period... Late Fall 2001 thru Spring 2003...approximately a 1 1/2 year or 18 month period.

    During this time... that's after the Fall of 2001,

    NO JEHOVAH'S WITNESS earthwide, at that time proven to be faithless as they are, will thus, BE PERMITTED TO APPROACH OR COME into this magnificent fold of some 200 Million or congregation of Gentile "Believers" of the "good news."
    None of Jehovah's Witnesses, at this point will be allowed to do this, after Late Fall of 2001.

    It will be some years later, before "Israel," will be given their "second" chance to fully "escape" from modern day Babylon. -- See Isaiah 11:11, 14

    Thus, we see, this special, marvelous Creation of God..a marvelous fold of some 200 Million Gentiles for His Name, is strictly the "planting," and "watering" of Jehovah God Himself. Yes it is His work, only. Thus, it is appropriate to say, then, that it is only He can be said to rightfully, "REAP," what has been sown. Yes, since it is He, Jehovah, Almighty God, that did all of the work!

    Praise JAH!

    Between now, and Late Fall of the year of 2001, a select few, selected by Jehovah God Himself, will be taken from the present-day fold of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are truly marvels in "faith," from Jehovah's point of view. These individuals will respond, because they possess, real faith, "faith," in His Special Message of "good news," and "release" from modern-day "Babylon the Great." And as such, they will be permitted to see the formation and witness the great miraculous work of God, in gathering the 200 million Gentiles for His Name.

    Jehovah God, will grant them, for "believing the message," and that's all, having "faith" in the message, the "good news," Jehovah will grant them marvelous privilege and most wonderful association of this miraculously formed group, who willingly attach themselves to God and His Marvelous, Wonderful, Name. They will heartily embrace it... God's Name, and certainly, will not spit upon it, as many on this board have done,... God is Witness to that! -- Isaiah 44:3-5; 41:17-20; 43:18-21.

    The scriptures indicate that some will indeed respond to this message. The "prophets," reveal this. So there will be some, among Jehovah's Witnesses, that will indeed, have the faith to believe the message. But they will be few in comparison to the majority of Jehovah's Witnesses who will turn down this glorious opportunity, for lacking faith.

    At that time, LATE FALL of 2001, it will have been fulfilled, the preaching of the "good news," exclusively to "Israel," modern-day Jehovah's Witnesses. And as the "prophets" say, namely, of Israel -- They "will not believe, even if it is related to them in detail." The message must now go to the 200 Million Gentiles for God's Name. -- Acts 13:40, 41; 15:14-18

    This "good news" I relate to you this day, is being done so, "IN DETAIL." -- Acts 13:41

    So, after that time, LATE FALL OF 2001, Jehovah carries out the Two things mentioned above, (a) the much deserved "dulling of the sensibilities of Israel," and (b) the illustrous "gathering of the 200 million Gentiles for His Great Name."

    After the "dulling" period upon Jehovah's Witnesses as a nation, and the "gather of the 200 million," are complete...Then the "trampling period" begins...

    ...it begins Spring 2003. That's the Spring of the year of 2003...the "trampling" of Jehovah's Witnesses begins, worldwide by the political nations upon earth... -- Revelation 11:2; 13:5

    THE CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS

    That time is near.

    Actually, the bible speaks of Two (2) "conclusion of the system of things," a first century one, and a modern-day one ... two "Jewish" system of things that MUST BE BROUGHT TO AN END...Jehovah has said.

    Whether we realize it or not, Jesus too had a first coming AND a second coming, toward disobedient "Israel," of his day, of the first century. Two (2) Comings. His initial "coming" and his second "coming," or second "parousia," at 70 CE.

    Two "Israels" and Two Comings...of a Messiah.

    Two Messiahs...two complete rejections too, one in the first century, and one in our modern day times... rejection of BOTH MESSIAHS. The outcome, the same, sad to say. -- Acts 13:41

    The Second Messiah

    A Christian, a follower of Jesus, a footstep follower of Jesus, a member of the New Covenant, like Paul, Peter and other faithful christians of the first century.

    No, he does not think of himelf as Jesus...no, no, no. Not at all.

    No, but He proclaims himself to the "ScapeGoat," ["Escape" goat] the SECOND "goat" mentioned, THE ONE THAT HAD TO BE "ATONED FOR," as specifically mentioned in Leviticus 16:10. "ATONED FOR" BY WAY OF THE FIRST GOAT, Jesus Christ. He is the "second goat," the "live goat," that was sent off into the wilderness, away from the WTS and JWs for a specific period of time, sent away, "ALIVE", alive, to make atonement for Israel...that particular goat.

    How could he be Jesus...when he realizes more than anyone else, that it was the "sin-atoning" factor of Jesus' blood itself, that brought him BACK TO SPIRITUAL LIFE, and kept him alive during his 7-Year Wilderness stay ... the "stay" that PAID THE DEBT OF SINS FOR "ISRAEL," and made the SCAPEGOAT ARRANGEMENT, along with a "Covenant" for peace, between God and Israel, Jehovah has made this possible. -- See Isaiah 42:6; 49:8

    THE DEBT, of "practiced" apostasy, practiced "idolatry," is paid off, paid to Jehovah God, by his volunteering, and agreeing to "stay" or give 7 years of his life, in sacrifice for "Israel's" Sins, 7 Years to be treated as a "disfellowshiped" person, and hounded by "Satan." To be sure, Satan realizes what is at stake here...he's no "dummy" ... he knows more than we think...he knows about "idolatry," and how it angers Jehovah God. Satan also knows, what it would take for God to "do away" with His Name People... what "sins" will accomplish this. Satan knows this.

    Yes, agrees, to be cast off although, he is "innocent" in God's eyes, still treated as if he had "leprosy," by "Israel," cast off, for "Israel," and their many "sins." He paid the debt. -- Isaiah 53rd Chapter.

    Years...He served 7 years, between, this particular time period:

    Spring 1991 thru Spring 1998.

    The "debt" of Israel, was actually paid off at that time. All that remains is for "Israel" to "put faith," in the "good news," the message itself.

    So, He paid the debt, long before "Israel," even knew of him...the "ScapeGoat."

    But before he could become this "sacrifice" for Jehovah, he be "cleansed" first, yes, cleansed for this task, before he "escaped" the organization of idolatry, and live in the wilderness for these special 7 years. So, then, this Second "goat," actually had to be FIRST, "atoned for," as described in Leviticus 16:10.

    Remember, nothing happens, nothing, without the blood of Jesus, being involved.

    He is the one mentioned in Isaiah 49:1-6.

    He is here, in his FIRST COMING, for APOSTATE modern-day "Israel", as the "Scapegoat." Of course, the prophets have already said what will happen...He will be completely rejected by "Israel," Jehovah's Witnesses. But, happily, there will be a small number, initially, that will accept him. But only a small number of baptized, dedicated Jehovah's Witnesses.

    He is pictured in the Bible, literally as the sacrificial entity that "escapes" or "flees from idolatry," the one that leaves the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses because of their practice of "apostasy." Hence, the designation of an "E-scape Goat," or an "E-scape bird." -- See 1 Corinthians 10:14

    Actually, Revelation 3:12 speaks of first century christians, forcibly having to leave the "temple" worship or their time, or literally "go out from it" or ESCAPE it, to maintain their spiritual relationship with God, Jehovah. So, Christians too had to "leave," or escape the "temple" worship and arrangements during their day, as shown at Revelation 3:12. This is because of overwhelming, prevailing APOSTASY by the leaders of the nation, after rejecting Jesus . -- See Hebrews 13:13, 14

    APOSTASY WILL ANNULL ANY COVENANT WITH JEHOVAH GOD, any covenant, Mosiac, New Covenant of Jesus, yes, any Covenant. Jehovah God, hates "Apostasy," ... He hates it!

    Jehovah God, is completely against IDOLATRY.

    We remember the Scriptures.

    "God tolerates no rivalry toward Himself," as far as worship is concerned, And His Unique, INSISTENCE UPON EXCLUSIVE DEVOTION Jehovah has said ... -- Numbers 25:11; 2 Kings 10:16

    "thou shalt not put nor have, any God, [like the Watchtower Society] BEFORE MY FACE... - Exodus 20:3

    ...I, Jehovah, am a JEALOUS GOD... -- Exodus 34:14

    ...I will not share my Glory with anyone... -- Isaiah 42:8

    DO YOU IMAGINE, THIS GOD, JEHOVAH, WILL TURN HIS HEAD AWAY FROM THE "IDOLATRY" Watchtower Society and Jehovah's Witnesses, HAVE PRACTICED, over and over again, for years now? Do you think Jehovah will Forget what this "apostate nation," has done? Do you? --Isaiah 9:17; 10:6; Jeremiah 17:13

    Jehovah God, has not changed...He is the same, as he was centuries ago, in his dealings with ancient Israel. He is the same today. -- Malachi 3:6

    It is the same today, with modern-day Jehovah's Witnesses, and their "APOSTATE" temple arrangement led by the wicked "Man of Lawlessness," the Governing Body of our modern times. The time has now come for "Israel," Jehovah's Witnesses, to make their "escape", their departure, from modern-day "Babylon the Great", oppressive "Egypt" of our times, yes, modern-day "Jerusalem" of our times! Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses must "ESCAPE" from Babylon, as the scriptures say. -- See Hebrews 13;13, 14; 2 Thess. 2:3-12; Jeremiah 50:8; 51:45; Revelation 11:8; 18:4

    Because of the PREVAILING "SIN", LAWLESSNESS, and OUTRIGHT APOSTASY being practiced by the Watchtower Society, Jehovah's Witnesses, entoto are in need of REDEMPTION from their "sins" practiced, under the leadership of the Watch Tower Society and Governing Body, as their leaders. Yes, the nation of Jehovah's Witnesses, all of them, are in NEED OF FORGIVENESS for their heinous practice of sin , IDOLATRY. Footstep followers of Christ, "Christians," cannot "practice sin" and REMAIN under that Christian, Covenant Arrangement! No, they cannot. -- See Hebrews 10:26, 27; 1 John 3:4, 6, 9.

    JEHOVAH, the God of Exclusive Devotion, will not tolerate this at all! -- Exodus 34:14

    The NEW COVENANT, the one left us by Jesus Christ, is VIOLATED, BROKEN, by all of Jehovah's Witnesses, in their incessant practice of idolatry and worship of the Watch Tower Soceity and Governing Body members as "gods," in Jehovah's Temple Arrangement! We have been "MEASURED" and weighted out as being DEFICIENT, spiritually speaking, before our God! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, as a nation. -- Revelation 11:1; 2 Thess. 2:3-12; Hebrews 10:26, 27

    The Jehovah's Witnesses have willingly, "defiled God's House," His Place of Rest before man, and willingly, "placed man's threshold," the Watch Tower Society's and its Governing Body's "threshold," alongside God's Own threshold[/i]!" -- Ezekiel 43:7, 8

    Jehovah's Witnesses, as a nation, are stained with the Practice of Idolatry, Lawlessness, and Apostasy! -- Matthew 24:12

    But, thankfully, Jehovah God has provided. He has foreseen the danger, the outcome of this situation, long ago. He Himself, has made arrangements, for this situation, but only, only if "Israel," is willing. -- Acts 3:18, 21; Romans 11:26, 27; Revelation 10:7

    The SACRIFICIAL "LIVE GOAT," or SACRIFICIAL "LIVE BIRD," that does indeed, have sin-atoning, sacrificial powers to take sin away! Specifically, from modern-day "Israel," the Covenanted-Nation that has offended Jehovah God, the ones who are truly in a Covenant Relationship with Him and are thus, "acting wickedly against the Covenant," as Daniel 11:32 plainly says.

    This SPECIAL SACRIFICIAL ARRANGEMENT, is indeed, EMPOWERED by the BLOOD OF JESUS.

    Jehovah has provided, the "Escape bird," of Leviticus 14:51, the SECOND "bird" mentioned, the "LIVE BIRD" who was "dipped" [Greek Septugint: "bapto"] in the blood of the FIRST bird, the one that was sacrificed...Jesus Christ. To "save" a nation that is to be surely, struck with spiritual "leprosy" before their God. This is sure to come. The "wrath" of God upon them, for their "behavior." -- Matthew 16:27

    Jehovah God has graciously purposed, to make "ATONEMENT" for apostate, backsliding "Israel" of Bible prophecy. -- See Ezekiel 16:59-63.

    But is "Israel," willing to "believe, even if it is related to them in DETAIL?" -- Acts 13:41

    No. Israel, will not.

    So, then, she must experience the "wrath," of God upon herself. Afterwhich, some years later, she will be given a SECOND CHANCE to accept deliverance from God's Own Hand. Yes, "God will hold his hand out a SECOND TIME" for disobedient "Israel," Jehovah's Witnesses, a time later, some years later, after she has been HUMBLED BEFORE HER GOD ... "Brought Low," ... yes, she must be SENT TO THE WILDERNESS AGAIN, for her lack of Faith, and Humility! To the "wilderness" she will go! -- Isaiah 11:11, 15; Deut. 8:3, 4; Revelation 12:6, 14.

    ALL MODERN DAY "ISRAEL," that's all of Jehovah's Witnesses, 6 million strong, will FIRST be given an opportunity to comply , yes, to "Repent," and comply with God's New Arrangement, the "ScapeGoat Arrangement," for remission of sins, forgiveness or sins, The PEACEFUL WAY. Thus, my ministry toward "Israel." My presentation of the "good news" of escape from Babylon the Great," my message toward Jehovah's Witnesses as a nation...a peaceful message. This is presented FIRST! It "culminates," or is finished by LATE FALL of 2001. The message presented by MDS..."related in detail." -- Isaiah 49:1; 52.7; Acts 13:41

    This work of mine, the preaching of the "good news" of deliverance from "Babylon the Great," will expire late at that time, LATE FALL 2001.

    It will be over then, but the "trampling does NOT start" immediately...no, not yet.

    THE "GREAT WAR"

    No, because a "Great War," will surface, before the "trampling" begins upon Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Society, will think, will think, will think, that this Great War, will no doubt, LEAD TO ARMAGEDDON! ARMAGEDDON, as in the complete destruction of all of the human governments on earth, done by God, for exclusively them, them, the Jehovah's Witnesses, in all of their apostasy and wicked...God is bringing Armageddon for them...is that so?

    No!

    This "Great War," will not end in the "complete destruction of the human governments on earth...no, no, no... but in peace, yes peace.

    Actually, "Armageddon," the word itself, and the whole idea, is totally misunderstood by Jehovah's Witnesses. "Armageddon," does not mean what Jehovah's Witnesses think it means...no. It does not.

    This "Great War," is the same one spoken of at Revelation 6:4; Daniel 10:1 [See NIV].

    This "GREAT WAR," will stop, the scriptures reveal, yes, stop, to the complete surprise of the Watch Tower Society and all of Jehovah's Witnesses! That's STOP and "peace," will be achieved. Yes, "Peace, and Security," "men will be saying it"... after the "Great War," everyone will be sooo happy...but something happens, upon Jehovah's Witnesses...

    ...then..."sudden destruction will be upon them"... Jehovah's Witnesses, who are not "sons of light," but "sons of wickedness," and "darkness." -- 1 Thess. 5:3-5

    The, Watchtower Society, then will also be "false prophets," proven ones, since during the "Great War," they have proclaimed, using their printed publications, and great publicity, yes to the entire world at large, that this tremendous war, this "great war," really leads to "Armageddon," destruction of the Governments of mankind, everywhere... mankind's UNDOING. This is what they print, and preach, doing this war.

    But it will not happen as they think... no. It have the actual REVERSE effect up them. This is God's hand!

    They are now, complete proven Liars, before everyone! -- Proverbs 30:6

    ...Now, Jehovah's Witnesses are "judged," they have willingly turned away from "truth," already, the "good news" presented to them as a nation ... They place their confidence in the WTS. But judgment, the "nations," the "trampling," the "Gentiles Times," will "overtake them as it would thieves" that come in darkness. -- 1 Thess. 5:4

    However, meanwhile for the world of mankind, outside of Jehovah's Witnesses, there will be "peace." Peace. But during this "peace" among the nations, Jehovah's Witnesses will indeed, experience the full measure of God's Wrath, the "TRAMPLING OF THE NATIONS," the genuine "GENTILE TIMES" of Luke 21:24 ... some "42 MONTHS" of terrific, terrible, TRAMPLING , world persecution, by the nations of this world! God's Wrath upon all of "Apostate Israel." (Please see Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2; 12:6, 14; 13:5.) "Israel," lacks FAITH, and must receive full "recompense" for its "behavior" or conduct, while following the Watchtower Society. -- Jeremiah 51:56; Micah 7:8,9; Matthew 16:27

    WHEN WILL THIS OCCUR? ... THE "42 MONTHS OF TRAMPLING" UPON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, WORLDWIDE?

    SPRING of 2003.

    Isaiah 49:1-6 fully authorizes me, by Jehovah God Himself, the Almighty One, to call it like it is, following the example of Christ, yes to denounce the worthless, THE FAITHLESS of our number, whom seem to be plentiful on this board. And to commend the irrepressible of our number, THE FAITHFUL, among those us, Jehovah's Witnesses, who are are undeterred by the WTS, and are still, "full of faith." Even those who are righteous from among our number that are "Bible Studies," and persons of interest, who stand up for God's Name and show complete faith.

    Luke 18:8 shows us what Jehovah is looking for in "Israel," ... Faith. This should not be a mystery to any among Jehovah's Witnesses, "Israel."

    Really, anyone, who has dedicated their lives to Jehovah God, should never, ever think, that they can "backslide" from God. Even if the WTS does, Jehovah's Witnesses cannot. As God said, "Send MY SON away so that he can SERVE me. The WTS cannot stop this...as Modern-day "Egypt," or "Babylon the Great." They cannot. -- Exodus 4:23; Eccl. 5:4-7; Revelation 11:8; 18:4

    MDS

    [/b]"Behold it, you scorners, and wonder at it, ...YOU WILL BY NO MEANS BELIEVE even if anyone relates it to you in detail[/i][/b]." -- Acts 13:41
    [/b]

    Edited by - MDS on 5 February 2001 2:2:30

  • mommy
    mommy

    MDS,
    Thank you for finally answering all our questions. Now I understand where you are coming from. I hope the best for your ministry. You are done with us now right?
    wendy

  • Frenchy
    Frenchy

    Well, now he's refering to himself in the third person. That's the step right before the sprouting of wings!
    I didn't read that long, long drivel that he typed up. He is unable to back up what he says once he is shown to have overlooked certain factors. Anway, my policy is not to read inspired material that has a note on the bottom that it's been edited!! Know what I mean??? [8>]

    -Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-

  • TR
    TR

    bjc,

    you are making yourself a "follower of men". Even MDS said he had followers. He's taking his own ideas and applying them to scripture. Can't you see that? He will fail. But then, his ravings are so ambiguous that it can be made to fail or not.

    TR

  • LDH
    LDH

    From what I've heard, Lithium works wonders.
    ;)

  • Jr
    Jr

    Hi all,
    In support of MDS, I too witness his activities and teachings. I'm no fool or airhead. I happen to be very skeptical. I was down right shocked to see what the scriptures were saying at first. But I recognized that this was Jehovah talking, his words! I know we say people can make the bible say anything, but you can't. Jehovah didn't make it that way. It can be used to mislead untaught ones or ones that are not familiar with the scriptures. Most of JW's that have spent their time wisely studying the scriptures know the bible better than most students of the bible, because of the fact we have identified truths that no one else wants to face.(paradise earth, One God, fleeing from idolatry, etc.) We know how to examine the scriptures and test the inspired saying. And that's good! But we have to leave room for Jehovah to continue to reveal still more truths to us. So, for most us, we can't be tricked with funny scripture combos.

    Jr

    Edited by - Jr on 5 February 2001 16:11:28

  • Jr
    Jr

    So, I find that everything MDS teaches is the WHOLE TRUTH!

    But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. John 16:9-13

  • thinker
    thinker

    JR,bjc, & MDS,

    Please answer something for me. If God wrote a book for EVERY man to use for salvation, then why can't EVERY man (or woman) read it and get their own correct interpretation? Why is it every religion has one correct view of scripture and none of them fits my own reading of them?

    thinker

    PS: bjc why do you carry the number 2012 on your name? It's clearly a reference to the end-of-the-world date predicted by MAYANS. Does MDS incorporate Mayan teachings also?

    Edited by - thinker on 5 February 2001 17:17:24

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    Just what t he world needs. Another crackpot.

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    MDS, I am impressed....nay, I am humbled. All those bold words....wow! It must have taken quite some time to get everything so pretty.

    So, this Fall, eh? Should we watch out for an eclipse or something?

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