CULT, if JW ,how about Christ?

by happy man 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • happy man
    happy man

    When so much peopel say JW is a cult,comperd to the most religions we are very diffrent yes.
    But if we go back to Christ and was he was teching,you must say this was a Cult to, he was telling he was the only one, a remark as you say on a cult, he was saying he come from the lord also a remark as you say,he was telling you must obey him also a remark on a cult as you say, he say if you dont se him as the son of the lord you have no life ,also a remark on a cult as you say,and he say he give his follower power from heaven, oups this is a very bigg remark on a cult.
    Littel confusing isnt is?

  • happy man
    happy man

    Here is the list, compare this to what the first Christians was lerning, and you must say ther was a cult ,a very bigg cult.

    An exhaustive study has been done on the behavior of cult groups - In several books about "cults", they enumerated 21 major points where you can identify the traits of a cult-like organization. Bear in mind that the authors did not target Jehovah's Witnesses as a specific group at all, which made it all the more frightening! But this dissertation generalized all cult-groups existing in the world...
    1. Control-oriented, arrogantly assertive, power-posturing leadership.
    2. Authoritarian and legalistic with dictatorial, dogmatic doctrines that are proclaimed to be "the Truth".
    3. Claims of being the channel of communication between God and humankind; having unique knowledge that makes them special. If members do not submit to its dictatorial rule, the leaders emphasize that any waver of support to the organization or church is evidence of waver of faith in God.
    4. Manipulation of members by guilt, shame, blame, and fear.
    5. An "Us-versus-Them" view, a perception of being under persecution.
    6. Demanding, rigid lifestyles and overwhelming service requirements.
    Members' lives are controlled by both spoken and unspoken rules.
    7. Loss of focus on God, replaced by a complicated process of furthering the church or organization and its rules.
    8. Followers "in pain", hiding real feelings that oppose or disagree with the religious system.
    9. Intolerance of individual thinking, and of criticism of the religious system by its members. Fosters an unhealthy dependency by focusing on themes of submission, loyalty, and obedience to those in authority.
    10. Severe discipline of members.
    11. The religious system puts down other religions.
    12. Closed communication: Information is only valid if it comes from the top of the religious system down, and from inside the system to the outside of it.
    13. Leaving the religious system is painful and difficult.
    14. Labeling: a technique used to discount a person who opposes the beliefs of the religious system, i.e., "apostates".
    15. What you do is more important that who you are.
    16. Love and acceptance are earned by doing certain things.
    17. Scripture-twisting.
    18. Scare tactics; focus on demons.
    19. Threats to remove members from the group.
    20. Members are misled into thinking the only safety is in the religious system.
    21. A view that education is bad or unnecessary.

  • neyank

    Hi happy man,

    No. It's not confusing at all.

    Are you comparing the WTS with Jesus Christ?

    Jesus had proof of who He is.
    He performed miricles.
    He fulfilled prophecy.

    What proof does the WTS have?
    False prophecies.
    Changes in their beliefs. Over and over and over again.
    Unchristian behavior and attitude.

    Now how can you possibly compare the WTS Jesus Christ?

    The ones who have compared themselves to Jesus HAVE been a cult.
    David Koresh, Jim Jones,ect.


  • picosito

    Come on, everybody, use SOME kind of spell checker first. OK?

  • ISP

    It is not too confusing....the JWs are a cult. The gospels were written in the second century and the early writers like Paul never mentioned the sermon on the mount teachings. Ever wondered about why that should be so? Same for his illustrations, parables and miracles. These are the first things mentioned by 'Christian' groups but not by the apostles. So make your own conclusions as to how this could be so.


  • avengers
    Come on, everybody, use SOME kind of spell checker first. OK?

    If you ask me this guy does this on purpose. Nobody can be that stupid!

  • ISP

    English may not be his first language. I know my Swedish would be really bad...non existent!


  • barry

    Dear Happy Man ,
    Youre right in that christianity could be considered a Cult. However one definition of a Cult is that Cults worship the organisation or a charasmatic figure rather than God. Christianity has allways accepted Jesus as God in the doctrine of the Trinity and in so doing Christianity is not Cultic.

  • Francois

    Perhaps Simon could be induced ato add a spell checker to the board??


  • Amazing

    Happyman: Yes, some aspects of the 'cult' definition could be applied to Christians. However, modern day cults focus people, not exclusively on Christ, but on their religion, their organization, and their leaders as an added layer in the path to salvation. Whereas jesus said that 'he is the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through him.

    Chrisitianity, in and of itself, is not cultish because it focus is not on division and judgment of others, but on Christ. The real issue regarding cults is not so much their unique doctrines, but their behavior and control over their members. Christians typically do not judge the differences between themselves over matters of doctrine ... whereas Christian-styled cults do engage in extreme exclusivity and judgmentalism. Their behavior gets more and more bizarre and dangerous as the cult becomes more and more extreme.

    Following Bible principles, we will avoid trying to live - or demand others to live - by an extensive and rigid set of dos and don'ts that go beyond the teachings of the Bible. The Watchtower, 4-15-02, pg 22, pp 15

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