Necessary family business

by stillin 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • stillin
    stillin

    That seems almost redundant to me. Isn't ALL family business important and necessary? Having a meal with your grown, disfellowshipped child seems to me necessary part of having raised a decent, family-values sort of child.

    Sure, if they have grown up to be compulsive thieves, hard-line substance abusers, offensive to the point of stirring anger, well, they can do all of that without a parent's help or emotional support.

    I' ll keep my dealings with my adult children quiet, to myself. It's none of their business.

  • designs
    designs

    Isn't that a terrible phrase.

  • hoser
    hoser

    you're right stillin all family business is neccesary

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    From the WT:

    Son#1. Left the WT in his teens. Has an education and a successful career. Helps Mom and Dad with bills and emotional support. Raising a family of his own in a home he purchased. He's an apostate and should not be spoken to or have any association.

    Son#2. Dropped out of high school to pioneer. Works part time at a convinience store. Soaks the parents financially and emotionally. Still lives at home. Has parts at the DC on keeping your eye on the ministry. He is a true Christian and will have a place in the new system.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    and yes I agree. All family business is necessary. The WT has no business in the family relations unless asked, and then, they should refer to professionals

  • Larsinger58
    Larsinger58

    The policy is wrong and hypocritical. Here's why:

    If a disfellowshipped person happens to be a spouse, you can't divorce them except on the grounds of fornication. You are still obligated to perform the marital vows and eat with them and live with them. How close can you get? Bottom line is, getting disfellowshipped does not break the marital tie. But children come out of that marriage, so why is that tie broken, just out of convenience?

    A further hypocrisy can be seen because members are told to avoid all contact. So you have parents ignoring their disfellowshipped children for years, until they get really old and need assistance. Then, the disfellowshipped child is expected and required to fulfill his obligations to his sickly parents and that might include moving in with them and lovingly assisting them. In that case, then its okay to suddenly talk to them and accept that assistance.

    It doesn't make sense. If getting disfellowshipped doesn't break the marital tie, then it doesn't break any family tie. Further, children of disfellowshipped children need their grandparents and a sense of family, so not including them could damage them emotionally.

    Plus this policy doesn't work. When I was growing up, there was a clear understanding that if you didn't get baptized, then you couldn't be disfellowshipped. So you have a case where you could have several children who never get baptized and only loosely follow the truth. The parent continues to speak to them and love them and associate with them at family gatherings. But the one or two who get baptized and then perhaps err in some way and get disfellowshipped, then they are out of the family and shunned. The parents can all the family over, including unbelieving relatives at a family gathering and not invite the person who is disfellowshipped. That thus disrupts natural family ties with the other relatives also.

    Now this can be quite annoying and hurtful. Let me tell you of one personal experience. I was raised in the truth and several of my revelatives are in the truth. My mother's brother and his children are strong in the truth and they adore my mom and dad, their last uncle and aunt on his side of the family. But I'm living in the household, disfellowshipped, having left Hawaii to take care of my elderly parents. So that's great. but my two cousins who are in the truth wanted to give my parents a big anniversary party. But since they would naturally want to invite the witnesses, even though this was a family affair, I didn't get invited. I was very hurt and angry over it and thus didn't want to assist in any way. They had turned a family event into a witness event. Turns out, typical of witnesses, other family members (relatives) were not encouraged to come even though we have several cousins in town.

    So it can be stressful. Right now, I can't stand anything relating to the WTS, even though some of the brothers are very nice and very supportive of my parents. My Mom can't walk and so has to use the wheelchair to go to the meetings. I used to take her there for the meetings. But now, I told my mom and dad I don't want to be anywhere near a Kingdom Hall. But they are old and dad can't drive nor has the strength to lift my mother, so now they can't really go to the meetings any more. I refuse to take them. But I dod help them hook up the phone at the nursing home so they can hear the meeting via conference call.

    So sometimes it works both ways. I know my mother wants to go the meetings, but now she can't, unless the brothers arrange to take her.

    But you know, they drew their line, and I'm drawing mine. Of course, the GB was "disfellowshipped" on November 10, 1992 anyway, so to me they are false prophets, so I'm not ashamed I'm "disfellowshipped" in the least.

    This is just another reason the GB is called the "man of lawlessness."

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    But now, I told my mom and dad I don't want to be anywhere near a Kingdom Hall. But they are old and dad can't drive nor has the strength to lift my mother, so now they can't really go to the meetings any more. I refuse to take them. . . . . I know my mother wants to go the meetings, but now she can't, unless the brothers arrange to take her.

    SO........where are their loving brothers who should be there to help care for their spiritual needs?

    IF they were giving a lot of money to the Congregation you can bet the Brothers would be there with a limo & chauffer every Sunday & Thursday!

    Doc

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    SO........where are their loving brothers who should be there to help care for their spiritual needs?

    This is a line I pull out from time to time. If u are in the right religion, then where is the support? U don't even get a post card, let alone a return call.

    Who the hell are 8 crazy guys in NY to define what is family, and what is not

  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    "Necessary family business" means, "when financial or physical help is needed from an apostate, then it is ok to talk and associate"...as long as it means the congregation or "brothers" don't have to step up and help the affected congregation member. Hypocites!!

  • carla
    carla

    I only had one conversation with an ms (ever) and he told me how he was shunning a relative & family due to some sort of 'sin'. I asked him how he was supposed to be the 'light of the world' if he stays secluded in his own little world of jw's? How can the 'sinful' family see by his (supposed) good example?

    The quiet was deafening, he had no answer. I told him he was not loving his own family much less his neighbor if he was not willing to lay down his life for another, meaning, he was more concerned with his is own butt and not mixing with lowly sinners and what the cong/elders would say. Rather he should be there for the family at all times and allow them to see his (so called) godly life in action. He saw my point and quickly changed the subject.

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