Obama's speech writers used the strawman fallacies yesterday

by moshe 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • moshe
    moshe

    Like I said, Obama uses strawman fallacies- and plenty of them at his inaguration, no less.

    IMO, a person who knowingly presents distortions and exaggeration with an intent to deceive, in order to control others, is definitely a member of the liars club.

  • Tater-T
    Tater-T

    deficits matter ... to the Banks who own this country... Thats where they make alot off money off the interest.. both parties say the want to reduce deficits.. but they wont.. their bosses won't allow it

    think about it .. it's simple math and they have the power to fix it but they don't ... yes it is that simple ..

  • ShirleyW
    ShirleyW

    IMO, a person who knowingly presents distortions and exaggeration with an intent to deceive, in order to control others, is definitely a member of the liars club.

    Exactly, like Bush and his Daddy

  • Tater-T
    Tater-T

    here's a strawman arguement ... welfare is the problem with the deficit

  • moshe
    moshe

    Most politicians will try to deceive us, if they can get away with it- it is up to the public to demand full honesty from their leaders. Obama was dishonest on Monday and those who dismiss it, as nothing, are teaching other politicians that they can boldy lie and nobody will stop them.

  • Tater-T
  • moshe
    moshe

    So lets take a vote-

    Is it OK for Obama to LIE, as long as it fits your social agenda? Bush is gone, Clinton is gone, it's Obama for 4 years- do you want more strawman fallacies from Obama or honest logic?

  • moshe
    moshe

    Next time you post, tell us how you vote --

  • ShirleyW
    ShirleyW

    Is it OK for Obama to LIE, as long as it fits your social agenda?

    NOT AT ALL ! ! I wish he would be more straight forward, highly intelligent, always truthful just like Bush was, such an intelligent President he was . . . . NOT ! ! !

  • Tater-T
    Tater-T

    Straw Man #2:

    “No single person can train all the math and science teachers we’ll need to equip our children for the future, or build the roads and networks and research labs that will bring new jobs and businesses to our shores.”

    Like the first straw man, this one argues against something which is obviously false, and which no one believes. A single, individual person obviously cannot do all of this alone, but again, that does not imply that if someone cannot do something alone, the government must step in and do it for them. For instance, an architect cannot build a skyscraper alone. He needs laborers, engineers, and other people. But saying he can’t do this alone is not the same thing as saying that private citizens cannot cooperatively agree to do this without help from the government.

    .. I don't see the strawman here..

    Like the first straw man, this one argues against something which is obviously false, and which no one believes. A single, individual person obviously cannot do all of this alone, but again,

    this article is impling things that weren't in the speech.. you and the rest of your clan is just sour grapes.. get over it...

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