Not on; TIME MAGAZINE: 2/3rds Jehovah's Witnesses children leave church, per Pew Research. Highest turnover of any US church.

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    America's Unfaithful Faithful

    By David Van Biema Monday, Feb. 25, 2008

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    A major new survey presents perhaps the most detailed picture we've yet had of which religious groups Americans belong to. And its big message is: blink and they'll change. For the first time, a large-scale study has quantified what many experts suspect: there is a constant membership turnover among most American faiths. America's religious culture, which is best known for its high participation rates, may now be equally famous (or infamous) for what the new report dubs "churn."

    The report, released today by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, is the first selection of data from a 35,000- person poll called the U.S. Religious Landscape Survey. Says Pew Forum director Luis Lugo, Americans "not only change jobs, change where they live, and change spouses, but they change religions too. We totally knew it was happening, but this survey enabled us to document it clearly."

    According to Pew, 28% of American adults have left the faith of their childhood for another one. And that does not even include those who switched from one Protestant denomination to another; if it did, the number would jump to 44%. Says Greg Smith, one of the main researchers for the "Landscape" data, churn applies across the board. "There's no group that is simply winning or simply losing," he says. "Nothing is static. Every group is simultaneously winning and losing."

    For some groups, their relatively steady number of adherents over the years hides a remarkable amount of coming and going. Simply counting Catholics since 1972, for example, you would get the impression that its population had remained fairly static — at about 25% of adult Americans (the current number is 23.9%). But the Pew report shows that of all those raised Catholic, a third have left the church. (That means that roughly one out of every 10 people in America is a former Catholic, and that ex-Catholics are almost as numerous as the America's second biggest religious group, Southern Baptists.) But Catholicism has made up for the losses by adding converts (2.6% of the population) and, more significantly, enjoying an influx of new immigrants, mostly Hispanic.

    An even more extreme example of what might be called "masked churn" is the relatively tiny Jehovah's Witnesses, with a turnover rate of about two-thirds. That means that two-thirds of the people who told Pew they were raised Jehovah's Witnesses no longer are — yet the group attracts roughly the same number of converts. Notes Lugo, "No wonder they have to keep on knocking on doors."

    The single biggest "winner," in terms of number gained versus number lost, was not a religious group at all, but the "unaffiliated" category. About 16% of those polled defined their religious affiliation that way (including people who regarded themselves as religious, along with atheists and agnostics); only 7% had been brought up that way. That's an impressive gain, but Lugo points out that churn is everywhere: even the unaffiliated group lost 50% of its original membership to one church or another.

    The report does not speculate on the implications of its data. But Lugo suggests, "What it says is that this marketplace is highly competitive and that no one can sit on their laurels, because another group out there will make [its tenets] available" for potential converts to try out. While this dynamic "may be partly responsible for the religious vitality of the American people," he says, "it also suggests that there is an institutional loosening of ties," with less individual commitment to a given faith or denomination.

    Lugo would not speculate on whether such a buyer's market might cause some groups to dilute their particular beliefs in order to compete. There are signs of that in such surveys as one done by the Willow Creek megachurch outside Chicago, which has been extremely successful in attracting tens of thousands of religious "seekers." An internal survey recently indicated much of its membership was "stalled" in their spiritual growth, Lugo allowed that "it does raise the question of, once you attract these folks, how do you root them within your own particular tradition when people are changing so quickly."

    The Pew report has other interesting findings; the highest rates for marrying within one's own faith, for example, are among Hindus (90%) and Mormons (83%). The full report is accessible at the Pew Forum site.

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  • BabaYaga

    Excellent. Thank you... and bookmarked.

  • Rabbit

    Vewwy, vewwy interesting...

    Hi, Baba kinda gives you some hope, eh?

  • ScenicViewer

    Despite it's horrible turn over rate, Watchtower will always find fault with other religions that have much less of a problem.

    In this example it points to the Catholic Church,

    (Awake Nov, 2011 p29, Watching The World)
    “Slightly more than 10% of American adults (10.1 percent) have left the Catholic Church after having been raised Catholic. -National Catholic Reporter, U.S.A."

    Another glaring, hypocritical double standard on Watchtower's part.

  • wasblind

    Along wit' the internet goin' door to door will be futile

  • Phizzy

    Many of those young ones who leave are ones who at one time actually fully believed it was the Troof, they lived it, they were active, they know it inside out, and yet they have found it wanting, found it not to be the Truth.

    This never occurs to the mind-controlled JW's, they will firmly believe the propaganda they are fed by the W.T that nearly all those that left did so because they wished to live a dissolute life.

    This is typical of Cults, they must besmearch the name of any who leave, there cannot be anything wrong with the cult, so the cult have to lie about those that reject it.

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    Satan is SOOOOOO busy trying to draw our children away from the trooth! <===== I could come up with bullshitty, dissonance-reducing stuff like this for just about any circumstance

  • Balaamsass

    Just cruising around on Facebook for people I grew up with and kids of families I knew in the past I am amazed at how FEW are still active JWs!!

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Notes Lugo, "No wonder they have to keep on knocking on doors."

    WT works so hard at recruiting replacements just to keep their numbers from decreasing. For one dub kid that leaves, it requires about 40 publisher years to recruit a replacement.

  • maisha

    (That means that roughly one out of every 10 people in America is a former Catholic, and that ex-Catholics are almost as numerous as the America's second biggest religious group, Southern Baptists.) But Catholicism has made up for the losses by adding converts (2.6% of the population)

    does that mean they have gods blessing more than others?. since they dont go knocking....

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