Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-23-2012 WT Study (YES MEAN YES)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-23-2012 WT Study (OCTOBER 15, 2012, pages 27-31)(YES MEAN YES)

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    LET YOUR YES MEAN YES

    “Just let your word Yes

    mean Yes, your No,

    No .”—MATT. 5:37.

    OPENING COMMENTS

    If jws are now allowed to use tablets or laptops in the audience, having loaded up the NWT, the WT study article, the songbook, at a minimum, is looking up a scripture online the same technique/skill as looking it up in a hardcopy of any bible? Jws are using tablets from door to door; at conventions/assemblies.

    Few if any scriptures are quoted in study articles nowadays, merely citations and “snippets.”

    How many jws when asked a question can find one scripture to explain it, without using the Reasoning book or the index of the NWT? Will they reach for their bible or a WTS publication? Jesus said the sheep would hear his voice, and where is the best place to find his words, the bible or a man-made publication?

    SEE IF YOU CAN ANSWER:

    What did Jesus say about sworn

    oaths?

    Why was Jesus such a fine example

    in proving true to his word?

    In what areas of life should our

    Yes mean Yes?

    1. What did Jesus say about the swearing of oaths, and why?

    GENERALLY, true Christians do not have to

    make sworn oaths. This is because they

    obey Jesus, who said: “Just let your word

    Yes mean Yes.” He meant that a person should keep

    his word. Jesus prefaced that command by saying:

    “Do not swear at all.” He said this in condemnation

    of the casual habit that many people have in their

    daily conversation of repeatedly swearing to this or

    to that, without ever intending to do what they say.

    By going “in excess” of a simple Yes or No to state

    their intentions, such people may reveal that they

    are really untrustworthy and thus under the influence

    of “the wicked one.”—Read Matthew 5:33-37.

    COMMENTS

    True Christians = only jws

    *** w90 1/1 p. 12 par. 8 “Not Ashamed of the Good News” ***

    While it is true that Jehovah’s Witnesses are hated and opposed in all the nations of the earth, this is in fulfillment of what was foretold to be an identifying mark of genuine worshipers of the one living and true God. (John 15:20, 21; 2 Timothy 3:12)

    Are jws the only religion that are persecuted? Read this site and find many religions that are also persecuted. Does that mean that they too are genuine worshipers?

    www.forum18.org

    I remember the statements from the platform that I could depend on my fellow jws to help me in a bad situation, that only jws showed true love. After 45 years of looking for it, I realized they were only words without actions….without intending to do what they as individuals are saying.

    2. Explain why it is not always wrong to make sworn oaths.

    2 Do Jesus’ words mean that all making of oaths

    is bad? How could that be? As we learned in the

    preceding article, Jehovah God and his righteous

    servant Abraham made sworn oaths on important

    occasions. Also, God’s Law required the taking of

    a sworn oath to settle certain disputes. (Ex. 22:10,

    11; Num. 5:21, 22) Thus, it may be necessary for a

    Christian to swear to tell the truth when testifying

    in a court of law. Or, on a rare occasion, a Christian

    might find it necessary to make a sworn oath to assure

    others of his intentions or to help settle a matter.

    In fact, when Jesus himself was put under oath

    by the high priest, he did not object to it but responded

    truthfully to the Jewish Sanhedrin. (Matt. 26:63, 64)

    Jesus, however, did not need to swear to

    anyone. Even so, to emphasize the reliability of his

    message, he often introduced what he said in this

    unique way: “Most truly [literally, “Truly, truly,” ftn.]

    I say to you.” (John 1:51; 13:16, 20, 21,

    38) Let us see what else we can learn

    from the examples of Jesus, Paul, and

    others whose Yes meant Yes.

    COMMENTS

    Jws can take oaths to get a passport or become a citizen, but not say the pledge of allegiance or get a political card in Malawi. This following discussion might expand your knowledge of how the WTS speaks out of both sides of their mouth.

    http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/2008_Jehovahs_Witnesses_and_National_Oaths_of_Allegiance.pdf

    JESUS—THE FINEST EXAMPLE

    3. What did Jesus promise God in prayer, and

    how did his heavenly Father respond?

    3 “Look! I am come . . . to do your will,

    O God.” (Heb. 10:7) With these meaningful

    words, Jesus presented himself

    to God to carry out all that was foretold

    about the promised Seed, including

    his being ‘bruised in the heel’ by

    Satan. (Gen. 3:15) No other human

    has ever volunteered to shoulder such a

    heavy responsibility. From heaven, Jehovah

    voiced his complete trust in his Son,

    though not requiring that Jesus swear to

    be true to his word.—Luke 3:21, 22.

    COMMENTS

    Yes, Jesus was ready to do god’s will, not the will of the religious leaders of his time.

    Jesus was a perfect man, but Adam and Eve quickly lied in Eden. But then Jesus had spent millions of years with God, not just 30 as the WTS says about Adam.

    Humans being imperfect, I wonder that jws don’t have to sign an oath of baptism based on WTS reasoning.

    4. To what extent did Jesus let his Yes mean

    Yes?

    4 Jesus always practiced what he

    preached by letting his Yes mean Yes.

    He allowed nothing to sidetrack him

    from the commission he received from

    his Father to preach the good news of

    God’s Kingdom and to make disciples

    of all whom God drew to Jesus. (John 6:44)

    The Bible describes the extent of

    Jesus’ truthfulness in these well-known

    words: “No matter how many the promises

    of God are, they have become Yes

    by means of him.” (2 Cor. 1:20) Indeed,

    Jesus is the finest example of one who

    proved true to what he promised his Father.

    Next, consider one who did his

    best to imitate Jesus.

    COMMENTS

    So do many jws not practice what they preach? Do they get baptized and do the bare minimum to assure they will get everlasting life on a paradise earth? Do they forget they preach that God sees everything, but then practice what the Israelites did, “Jehovah has left the land and he is not seeing.”

    Do you think the WTS believes jws are not “practicing what they preach”?

    PAUL—A MAN OF HIS WORD

    5. What example did the apostle Paul set

    for us?

    5 “What shall I do, Lord?” (Acts 22:10)

    With these sincere words, Paul, then

    known as Saul, responded to the direction

    of the glorified Lord Jesus, who had

    appeared to him in a vision to stop him

    from persecuting Christ’s disciples. As

    a result of this encounter, Saul humbly

    repented of his past course, got baptized,

    and accepted the special assignment

    given to him to bear witness about

    Jesus to the nations. From that time

    onward, Paul continued to address Jesus

    as his “Lord,” acting in harmony

    with that expression until the end of

    his earthly life. (Acts 22:6-16; 2 Cor. 4:5;

    2 Tim. 4:8) Paul was not like others of

    whom Jesus said: “Why, then, do you

    call me ‘Lord! Lord!’ but do not do the

    things I say?” (Luke 6:46) Yes, Jesus expects

    all who accept him as their Lord

    to be true to their word, as was the

    apostle Paul.

    COMMENTS

    So Paul bore witness to Jesus not Jehovah. In line with what Jesus said at Acts 1:8. How many jws say that they are the only true Christians but then show love only to a few of their members, if judged deserving. They accept the “free” gift of undeserved kindness of God but withhold it from other jws and especially from non-jws.

    When many jws hear the word “Lord” do they think Jesus or God?

    PICTURE: From baptism to death, Jesus proved true to what he promised his Father

    6, 7. (a) Why did Paul change his plan to revisit

    Corinth, and why were his critics not

    justified in questioning his trustworthiness?

    (b) How should we view those appointed to

    take the lead among us?

    6 Paul zealously spread the Kingdom

    message throughout Asia Minor and

    into Europe, establishing and revisiting

    many congregations. On occasion,

    he found it necessary to swear to the

    truthfulness of what he wrote. (Gal. 1:20)

    When some in Corinth accused Paul

    of being untrustworthy, he wrote in his

    defense: “God can be relied upon that

    our speech addressed to you is not Yes

    and yet No.” (2 Cor. 1:18) At the time of

    writing that, Paul had left Ephesus and

    was traveling through Macedonia on

    his way to Corinth. Originally, he had

    planned to revisit Corinth before going

    into Macedonia. (2 Cor. 1:15, 16) But,

    as with traveling overseers today, sometimes

    routings have to be changed. Such

    changes are not made for trivial, selfish

    reasons but because of some emergency.

    In Paul’s case, the reason he delayed

    his planned visit to Corinth was for the

    congregation’s own good. How so?

    COMMENTS

    In my younger days, the CO and his wife were regular pioneers, with 100 hour/mo quotas. Plus 20 congregations, 2x a year, 2 2.5 day circuit assemblies, and 4 to 8 day conventions, rooming work and other convention work for several weeks. When I was leaving we had substitute Cos often. There were 2 week pioneer schools, 2 week CO schools, Elder/MS schools. Why did first century Christians feel Paul was untrustworthy…well Paul pulled no punches, he counseled Peter in front of the congregation. But I can remember Cos who were afraid to say anything about pedophiles, and others that counseled others for going over time and went over time 45 minutes 3x a week and ignored the comments from the elders about it…practicing what he preached?

    7 Some time after making his original

    plans, Paul received disturbing news

    that disunity and immorality were being

    tolerated in Corinth. (1 Cor. 1:11; 5:1)

    To correct the situation, he wrote strong

    counsel in his first letter to the Corinthians.

    Then, instead of sailing directly

    from Ephesus to Corinth, Paul decided

    to give his brothers time to apply his

    counsel so that when he eventually arrived,

    his visit could be more encouraging.

    Assuring them of the truthfulness

    of the reason for his change in plans,

    Paul wrote in his second letter: “I call

    upon God as a witness against my own

    soul that it is to spare you that I have not

    yet come to Corinth.” (2 Cor. 1:23) May

    we never be like Paul’s critics; rather, let

    us show our deep respect for those appointed

    to take the lead among us. The

    truth is that we do well to imitate Paul,

    just as he imitated Christ.—1 Cor. 11:1;

    Heb. 13:7.

    COMMENTS

    Do those who are appointed practice what they preach for showing respect for sheep?

    OTHER FINE EXAMPLES

    8. What example did Rebekah set for us?

    8 “I am willing to go.” (Gen. 24:58)

    With these simple words, Rebekah answered

    her mother and her brother respecting

    her willingness to leave home

    that very day and travel with a stranger

    over 500 miles (800 km) to become

    the wife of Abraham’s son Isaac.

    (Gen. 24:50-58) Rebekah’s Yes meant Yes, and

    she proved to be a faithful God-fearing

    wife to Isaac. For the rest of her life, she

    dwelled in tents as an alien in the Promised

    Land. She was rewarded for her

    faithfulness by becoming one of the ancestresses

    of the promised Seed, Jesus

    Christ.—Heb. 11:9, 13.

    COMMENTS

    But remember that Rebekah helped Jacob lie to his father to get the inheritance rather than tell his father that Esau had sold the birthright.

    Remember Rebekah lied about being Isaac’s sister, not trusting God to protect them.

    9. How was Ruth true to her word?

    9 “No, but with you we shall return

    to your people.” (Ruth 1:10) The Moabite

    widows Ruth and Orpah kept saying

    this to their widowed mother-in-law,

    Naomi, who was returning from Moab

    to Bethlehem. Finally, at Naomi’s urging,

    Orpah returned to her homeland.

    But Ruth’s No meant No. (Read Ruth 1:

    16, 17.) She loyally stuck to Naomi,

    abandoning forever her family and the

    false religion of Moab. She endured as a

    faithful worshipper of Jehovah and was

    rewarded by being one of only five women

    mentioned by Matthew in Christ’s

    genealogy.—Matt. 1:1, 3, 5, 6, 16.

    COMMENTS

    But were Naomi and her husband true to their word not to have their sons marry Moabite women?

    (Deuteronomy 23:3) 3 “No Am′mon·ite or Mo′ab·ite may come into the congregation of Jehovah. Even to the tenth generation none of theirs may come into the congregation of Jehovah to time indefinite,

    10. Why was Isaiah a good example for us?

    10 “Here I am! Send me.” (Isa. 6:8) Before

    saying this, Isaiah saw a glorious

    vision of Jehovah sitting on His throne

    above Israel’s temple. While gazing

    upon this glorious sight, Isaiah heard

    Jehovah say: “Whom shall I send, and

    who will go for us?” This was an invitation

    to be Jehovah’s spokesman to

    deliver God’s message to His wayward

    people. Isaiah proved true to his word

    —his Yes meant Yes. For over 46 years,

    he faithfully served as a prophet, delivering

    strong messages of denunciation

    as well as wonderful promises about the

    restoration of true worship.

    COMMENTS

    Do you think Isaiah went to the temple when false worship was being held there? He did not shut up and wait on God. If Isaiah could deliver a message to wayward Israelites, why can’t jws do the same for wayward jws? Weren’t the Israelites just imperfect humans?

    11. (a) Why is being true to our word so important?

    (b) What warning examples are there

    of some who were not truthful?

    11 Why has Jehovah had the above examples

    recorded for us in his Word?

    And how serious is the matter of letting

    our Yes mean Yes? The Bible clearly

    warns that a person who is “false to

    agreements” is among those who are

    “deserving of death.” (Rom. 1:31, 32)

    Pharaoh of Egypt, Judean King Zedekiah,

    and Ananias and Sapphira are

    among the bad examples highlighted in

    the Bible of individuals whose Yes did

    not mean Yes. They all fared badly and

    stand as warning examples for us.—Ex.

    9:27, 28, 34, 35; Ezek. 17:13-15, 19, 20;

    Acts 5:1-10.

    COMMENTS

    So will jws be put to death for not fulfilling their baptism? But Pharaoh and Zedekiah will be resurrected. Will Ananias and Sapphira?

    12. What will help us to be true to our word?

    12 Living “in the last days, “we are surrounded

    by people who are “disloyal,”

    people “having a form of godly devotion

    but proving false to its power.” (2 Tim. 3:1-5)

    As much as possible, we must

    avoid such bad association. Instead, we

    should regularly gather with those who

    strive always to let their Yes mean Yes.

    —Heb. 10:24, 25.

    COMMENTS

    All non-jws—disloyal people with a form of godly devotion

    All non-jws—bad association

    All non-jws—people whose Yes does not mean Yes?

    YOUR MOST IMPORTANT YES

    13. What is the most important Yes spoken by

    a follower of Jesus Christ?

    13 The most important promise that

    a person can make concerns his or

    her dedication to God. On three specific

    occasions, those who want to disown

    themselves as disciples of Jesus

    have the opportunity to say Yes to inquiries

    about their intentions. (Matt. 16:24)

    When two elders interview a person

    who would like to become an unbaptized

    publisher, the person is asked,

    “Do you really want to be one of Jehovah’s

    Witnesses?” Later, when the individual

    has made further spiritual

    progress and wishes to be approved

    for baptism, the elders will meet with

    him or her and ask, “Have you made

    your personal dedication to Jehovah in

    prayer?” Finally, on the day of baptism,

    each candidate is asked, “On the basis

    of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have

    you repented of your sins and dedicated

    yourself to Jehovah to do his will?”

    COMMENTS

    Most important yet 6 year olds can make it in the WTS but not get married.

    Can you imagine 2 elders interviewing a six-year-old about baptism (and tell non-jws that they don’t baptize babies. Remember in the OT 5 year olds were still nursing).

    Did first century followers of Jesus get baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses? Or were they known as Christians per the bible?

    (Acts 11:26) . . .It thus came about that for a whole year they gathered together with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.

    Were first century Christians asked baptism questions? Did they have an organization; is the word “organization” even in the Bible? Where is the holy spirit in the second question; it is replaced by an organization.

    *** w06 4/1 p. 22 ‘Go and Make Disciples, Baptizing Them’ ***

    The Two Baptismal Questions

    On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

    Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?

    PICTURE: Are you being true to your most important Yes?

    Thus, in front of witnesses, these new ones say Yes respecting their promise to

    serve God forever.

    14. What self-examination should we periodically

    make?

    14 Whether you are newly baptized

    or have been serving God for decades,

    you need to examine yourself periodically

    and ask questions like these: ‘In

    imitation of Jesus Christ, am I continuing

    to be true to my most important Yes?

    Am I continuing to obey Jesus by making

    the preaching and disciple-making

    work the main focus of my life?’—Read

    2 Corinthians 13:5.

    COMMENTS

    So are jws allowed to examine themselves or are other jws constantly watching and judging and “counseling” them according to the personal beliefs? Do they practice the following or only preach it.

    (2 Corinthians 10:12) 12 For we do not dare to class ourselves among some or compare ourselves with some who recommend themselves. Certainly they in measuring themselves by themselves and comparing themselves with themselves have no understanding.

    15. In what areas of life is it important to let

    our Yes mean Yes?

    15 Proving true to our dedication vow

    means that we must also be faithful in

    other important matters. For example:

    Are you married? Then continue to honor

    the precious vow you made to love

    and cherish your marriage mate. Have

    you signed a business contract or filled

    out an application form for theocratic

    privileges? Then be true to your commitments

    and to what you have promised.

    Have you accepted an invitation to

    a meal by someone of humble means?

    Then do not cancel it if a seemingly better

    invitation is made by someone else.

    Or have you promised someone you met

    in the house-to-house ministry that you

    would call again to give that person further

    spiritual help? Then by all means

    let your Yes mean Yes, and Jehovah will

    bless your ministry.—Read Luke 16:10.

    COMMENTS

    Dedication vow

    Marriage vow

    Business vow

    Bethel vow

    Did you ever have someone cancel a dinner invitation to find out they did something else socially afterwards the same day? I knew a couple who kept saying “We have to have you over some day” only to always be busy even when you picked a 6 week period and said any day was open for you. After six years, I told the husband why did he say it was possibility when he had no intention of ever having someone outside his cliché over to his house…he didn’t deny it but said I was the wrong one to point it out.

    How many jws did you know that came back? I knew one brother who never kept track of RVs because the territory would be worked again and those people would be home then. The WTS knows this and knows that is part of why there is no increase in many areas.

    Did you know immediately after this paragraph that the scripture says he that is faithful in least is faithful in much?

    Do elders that don’t make shepherding calls prove to be not faithful in what is least and then not faithful in much?

    *** w92 7/1 p. 16 par. 9 Elders, Judge With Righteousness ***

    Speaking to the elders of the Ephesus congregation, the apostle Paul put the emphasis where it belongs: “Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own Son.” (Acts 20:28) Paul highlights shepherding, not punishing. Some elders might do well to ponder over the following question: ‘Could we save the considerable amount of time needed to investigate and handle judicial cases if we devoted more time and effort to shepherding?’

    BENEFITING FROM OUR HIGH PRIEST AND KING

    16. If we have failed to keep our word, what

    should we do?

    16 The Bible states that as imperfect

    humans, “we all stumble many times,”

    especially in the use of our tongue. (Jas. 3:2)

    What should we do upon realizing

    that we have failed to keep our word? In

    God’s Law to Israel, there was a merciful

    provision for someone who was

    guilty of “speaking thoughtlessly with

    his lips.” (Lev. 5:4-7, 11) There is also

    a loving provision for Christians who

    commit such a sin. If we confess the

    specific sin to Jehovah, he will mercifully

    forgive us through the office of our

    High Priest, Jesus Christ. (1 John 2:1, 2)

    To remain in God’s favor, however, we

    must show fruits that befit repentance

    by not making a practice of such sins

    and by doing our best to make amends

    for any harm done by our thoughtless

    speech. (Prov. 6:2, 3) Of course, it is far

    better to think carefully before making

    promises that we are unable to fulfill.

    Read Ecclesiastes 5:2.

    COMMENTS

    Is the WTS talking about inactive jws when they talk about people who fail to keep their word? Did Jesus say that his followers would be known by the hours they turned in or by the love they showed in practical ways.

    Do jws confess to God or the elders? Does God forgive us or the elders and congregation? How can imperfect men judge others? Did men judge David when he committed adultery and murder? Was it in the public square or hidden from others?

    *** w10 9/1 p. 24 Is Confession of Sins Required by God? ***

    Turning once again to the book of James, we find these encouraging words: “Is there anyone [spiritually] sick among you? Let him call the older men of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, greasing him with oil in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the indisposed one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, it will be forgiven him.”—James 5:14, 15.

    Here again, the older men, or elders, are called upon to respond to the needs of the flock. How? Not by merely hearing a confession.

    (James 5:16) . . .Therefore openly confess YOUR sins to one another and pray for one another, that YOU may get healed. A righteous man’s supplication, when it is at work, has much force.

    Does this mean that people should not be baptized as jws unless they know for a certainly they can fulfill it? Should the “hold back”?

    Fruits or works of repentance

    Luke 3:8 or Acts 26:20?

    17, 18. What glorious future awaits all who

    strive to let their Yes mean Yes?

    17 What a wonderful future awaits all

    worshippers of Jehovah who keep striving

    to let their Yes mean Yes! For the

    144,000 anointed ones, it will mean immortal

    life in heaven, where they will

    share with Jesus in his Kingdom “and

    will rule as kings with him for the thousand

    years.” (Rev. 20:6) For countless

    millions more, it will mean benefiting

    from Christ’s Kingdom rule in an earthly

    paradise. There they will be helped to

    grow to physical and mental perfection.

    —Rev. 21:3-5.

    COMMENTS

    Have you noticed that the WTS keeps emphasizing the “two hopes,” immortal life in heaven for a few and everlasting life on earth for millions (not billions).

    That means most of the 7 plus billion non-jws are doomed, men, women and children, eternally dead.

    18 By proving faithful in the final test

    at the end of Jesus’ Millennial Reign, we

    will never again have reason to doubt

    anyone’s word. (Rev. 20:7-10) Every Yes

    will mean Yes, and every No, No. For

    everyone then living will be a perfect

    imitator of our loving heavenly Father,

    Jehovah, “the God of truth.”—Ps. 31:5.

    COMMENTS

    The WTS zooms forward 1,000 years where all the remaining people who are judged not to be trusted will die eternally.

    A perfect imitator of Jesus or God?

    (1 Corinthians 2:16) . . .For “who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, that he may instruct him?” But we do have the mind of Christ.

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    So other than df’ing sins, and humans being imperfect, how will the WTS judge members not meaning Yes? Whose principles/laws, theirs of God’s?

    Are they making the word of God invalid?

    Next Sunday, TEACH ME TO DO YOUR WILL (God’s or the WTS?)

    Love, Blondie

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    This article is worthless! The Society has violated this principle found at Matt. 5:37 (Let Your Yes Mean Yes and Your No, No) with its endless changes over the years on doctrine and teachings that they explain away as ‘new light’, ’updates’ and ‘new understanding’.

    The last sentence of paragraph 16 states: ‘Of course, it is far better to think carefully before making promises that we are unable to fulfill.’

    Excellent work, Blondie.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Another worthless waste of people's time on scattered examples. Since when are Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Noah, David (Tyrant David), Ruth, Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, Isaiah, John the Baptist, Paul, and Timothy the only examples we should follow? Or Job? How often they harp on the same 20 or 30 characters in the LIE-ble, claim that their problems were solved in a certain way, and we need to do the same thing. What they leave out is that these were prominent people in God's purpose (which is ultimately to enslave the whole human race), and his blessing is needed in order that he successfully enslave the human race. Bless those at the top, leave those out near the middle and bottom, and boast about the blessings as if that was normal. Sure sounds like Jehovah's way of working.

    Yet, Jehovah will not follow his own advice. That Almighty Lowlife Scumbag effectively promised me the opposite sex, and sought to create a way out of honoring this promise. The whole way out was constructed by Jehovah itself, and this scumbag used it to welsh on its promise (disrespect to joke-hovah intneded). Yet, this Almighty Lowlife Scumbag insists on holding me to my dedication to that thing? IT will not let me find a way out of that dedication (which turned out to be to my detriment, ultimately leading to my damnation and great risk of returning in another life as a born-in joke-hova's witless with no way of leaving that filth)--after IT weaseled out of a promise IT made to me?

    I definitely do not recommend Jehovah to anyone. And, if Satan is working against that thing, I would instead recommend working with Father Satan to bring down this Almighty Lowlife Scumbag.

  • blondie
    blondie

    BTTT

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I wonder what purpose of an article is? Might it be used to guilt a member in to staying, when they start to have doubts?

  • cobaltcupcake
    cobaltcupcake

    This article is drivel. Thanks, Blondie!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Do elders that don’t make shepherding calls prove to be not faithful in what is least and then not faithful in much?

    Great comment, Blondie! We all know that Elders do not make Shepherding Calls anymore. Only investigative meetings.

    Do jws confess to God or the elders? Does God forgive us or the elders and congregation? How can imperfect men judge others? Did men judge David when he committed adultery and murder?

    That's right. Keep it between you and Jehovah! [WTS does in fact hold up David as an example to follow.]

    jgnat: I wonder what purpose of an article is? Might it be used to guilt a member in to staying, when they start to have doubts?

    And to guilt them into doing MORE MORE MORE!

    GONE BAD: The Society has violated this principle found at Matt. 5:37 (Let Your Yes Mean Yes and Your No, No) with its endless changes over the years on doctrine and teachings they explain away as "New Lite". . .

    Then isn't is appropriate if WE use that example? I certainly have seen "NEW LITE". It's called TTATT!

    Shucks!! I missed this WT Study.

    Doc

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Thanks Blondie,

    This study article is the insane ramblings of a delusional writer, working for the delusional Governing Body, and the Jehovah taskmaster.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Jws can take oaths to get a passport or become a citizen, but not say the pledge of allegiance or get a political card in Malawi. This following discussion might expand your knowledge of how the WTS speaks out of both sides of their mouth.___________Blondie

    Sooooooo True, Jehovah's witnesses in the U.S. were allowed to have a govn't issued Social Security card

    that did not affect thier allegiance to God, yet at the same time jehovah's witnesses in Malawi died believin'

    it did. And the Society backed this belief

    .

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Let your " Yes " mean " Yes ". How would this interview go?

    Journalist: Does the WTBTS claim to speak for God? Yes or no, please.

    GB: UHHH???

    Journalist: Have you ever claimed that the " End " would come, even assigning it a specific date?

    GB: ERRR, uhmm???

    Journalist: Do you expect every single member of your organization to believe everything you print as absolute truth?

    GB: Well, that is....uhh???

    Journalist: Are members actually marked or persecuted for bringing indescrepencies to light? Are they allowed to disagree with current " truth "?

    GB: Hey, look at the time! Gotta go!

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