"We get presents all year; who needs Christmas"

by WTWizard 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • WTWizard

    I don't know how many times I have heard that lie from the platform. I have heard that line of rubbish at Big and Great Boasting Sessions as well. The witlesses act as if they get as many toys as worldly people, just scattered throughout the year.

    Now, I have seen many cases where that simply isn't true. I have been at one place while I was studying. This was the lead hounder, who had 2 daughters (one around 7-8 at the time, the other around 12). In the place I could see, there wasn't even one toy. I found no radio, no TV, no nothing. I know not what was put away, but usually when you have children of that age, you are bound to have toys left around. Not a single toy I could find there. Do those children think they get toys all year?

    Another was the dingbat that dragged me into the cancer in the first place. He had 2 boys soon after I was baptized, and neither of those had obvious toys. Typically, I would know from toys being left around--this was a son of the person whose house was used for field circus a few times during the week. When those boys were 3 and 4, I would expect toys to be left around--no matter what, I never expect things to be perfectly picked up when you have children around. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of toys they had.

    Still another involved a boy, around 8 when I was going into the cancer. During April recess that year, I was out in field circus as an unbaptized publisher every afternoon during the midweek. And he was out every single day, having been out all morning. Frequently, he would get swatted for the heinous crime of picking up a stick and drawing in the dirt, or finding a small pebble and dropping it into a puddle. I didn't notice any toys in his possession, either. As I didn't see the inside of his home, I cannot say with certainty that he had few or no toys. However, judging by his picking up sticks and having next to no play time, I could guess that there weren't very many.

    One case where I really felt horrible for the children was when I was at a Grand Boasting Session. I was in the upper part (where the air conditioner was active), and a family with 3 children (2 girls and one boy) came in late. They were traveling each day, around 150 km each way. The youngest were 6 and 7. Among them, they had a toy binocular that came from a Happy Meal--it is well known that those toys tend to be crap, and the optics of that were extremely poor as one might expect. From the way the children played with that thing, I presumed that they had very few toys at home. I let them play with a toy calculator (shaped like a crayon with a membrane that pulls out for the keypad), and they broke it by treating it like a 7-year old boy would treat something like that. It was obvious that something like that was a real treat--I went out and found some small calculators for them to play with, obviously something sturdier. Try telling those children they get toys all year.

    True, some of them have a reasonable number of toys. However, quite a few don't. Usually it's because the parents are too poor to afford them (but they have funds for gas for field circus, Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund donations, and suit dry cleanings). Sometimes it's because they are mean-spirited. Other times, they take to heart that, if there are few or no toys at home, the children won't be crying to go in from field circus or skipping so many boasting sessions. Either way, I believe it's generally a lie that witless children get toys all year, and especially in amounts comparable to what worldly people get under the tree or on their birthdays.

    And yes, worldly children sometimes get toys throughout the year as well.

  • Ding

    In the WT world, toys = worldliness, materialism, and wasted time... far better to get the kids adult JW attire and a literature bag...

  • WTWizard

    Which I have seen entirely too much of. I have seen more witless children getting crap like tote bags, call books, and sticker books with "My First Call" crap. Things like that are a complete waste of money. I spent less on those calculators for those children with next to nothing at the Grand Boasting Session than many parents waste on one child-size book bag.

  • wasblind

    The WTS takes Matthew 6: 3,4 and 2 Corinthians 9:7 completely out of context

    " The spirit of Christmas giving--------an exchange of gifts. The spirit reflected in such giving does not bring real happiness, because it violates Christian principles such as those found at Matthew 6: 3,4 and 2 Corinthians 9:7. Surely a Christian can give gifts to others as an expression of love at other times during the year, doing so as often as he wants_________Reasoning book page 178

    Question: If gift giving is a violation of christian principles, how come it's only a violation only on christmas day and not any other time of the year.


  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    ah yes, the "we celebrate every day of the year" crap. Most JW's I knew were hardly in a financial position to "give gifts all year long"


    These UnFortunate Worldly Children.. These Fortunate JW Children can Peddle..

    Get presents at certain times of the year.. WBT$ Crap all year long..

    ................................  mutley-ani1.gif ...OUTLAW

  • Jadeen

    "We get presents all year; who needs Christmas"

    It's a lie that Witnesses tell themselves, trying to make themselves feel better about no holiday fun. I've been trying to remember just how many wrapped gifts I got as a child- my parents joined when I was about 6 years old. I remember the last Christmas we celebrated and... no wrapped gifts until I got my graduation presents.

    Don't get me wrong, my parents did give gifts. They were few and far between though. And I heard my dad grumbling about how we didn't deserve the gifts that we did get. That really made our presents enjoyable : /

  • wasblind

    I love when OUTLAW gets wound up

    I need to rephrase my Question : Why is the exchange of gifts a violation of Christian principles

  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    Most of the JW with kids under 10 years or so that I knew always gave their kids presents on boxing day "so they wouldnt feel left out....."

  • MrFreeze

    I don't remember getting any wrapped presents.

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