Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-25-2012 WT Study (CONGREGATE)

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    blondie

    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-25-2012 WT Study (SEPTEMBER 15, 2012, pages 28-31)(JOYFUL PEOPLE)

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    JEHOVAH

    CONGREGATES

    HIS JOYFUL

    PEOPLE

    “Congregate the people,

    the men and the women

    and the little ones

    and your alien resident.”—

    DEUT. 31:12.

    OPENING COMMENTS

    How often the WTS uses OT examples to explain or give authority to something not mentioned in the NT.

    No conventions for Christians in the NT so the WTS must reach back in history.

    HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER?

    Why can it be said that conventions

    have been landmarks in

    the history of Jehovah’s people?

    What efforts did many ancient

    Israelites have to make to attend

    the festivals in Jerusalem?

    Why should you not miss a

    convention?

    START OF ARTICLE

    1, 2. What aspects of theocratic conventions merit our attention?

    INTERNATIONAL and district conventions have

    been a feature of the modern-day history of Jehovah’s

    Witnesses for as long almost of us can

    remember. Many of us have attended a number of

    these joyful events, perhaps scores of them over the

    decades.

    COMMENTS

    Remember jws have only existed since 1931 renamed that by Rutherford. He himself had been a Bible Student until then. Although Jesus’ followers were called Christians “by divine providence” per the Bible; but that was not good enough, Rutherford renamed those few Bible Students who remained after the fiasco of the prophecy of the end coming in 1925 failed.

    Conventions—Early ones last 7 to 8 days and people traveled to one location on earth. This ended in 1958 with the convention in NYC.

    Remember that the natural Israelites (all of them) were identified as Jehovah’s Witnesses in Isaiah 43:10-12. They would correspond to “spiritual” Israelites, only anointed jws per the WTS. How is it that the other sheep are included, were they always?

    2 Thousands of years ago, God’s people also held

    holy conventions. We will review some Scriptural

    precedents for modern-day conventions, note similarities

    between ancient and modern features of

    such gatherings, and focus on benefits received

    from attending them.—Ps. 44:1; Rom. 15:4.

    COMMENTS

    God’s people = Israelites

    Israelites were commanded in the Bible to congregate in conventions 3 times a year, men that is.

    Where is the scripture(s) in the NT commanding Christians to have conventions?

    The similarities are there because the WTS has copied the Jewish way of life making it a “command” for Christians although the NWT says:

    (Colossians 2:13, 14) Furthermore, though YOU were dead in YOUR trespasses and in the uncircumcised state of YOUR flesh, [God] made YOU alive together with him. He kindly forgave us all our trespasses 14 and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us; and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.

    LANDMARK CONVENTIONS, ANCIENT AND MODERN

    3. (a) What characterized the first convention of Jehovah’s

    people that we have on record? (b) How were the Israelites

    called to assemble together?

    3 The assembly at the base of Mount Sinai was the

    first large gathering of God’s people for spiritual instruction

    on record. It truly was a landmark event in

    the history of pure worship. On that thrilling occasion,

    which participants no doubt never forgot, Jehovah

    gave the Israelites a demonstration of his power

    when he gave them his Law. (Ex. 19:2-9, 16-19;

    read Exodus 20:18; Deuteronomy 4:9, 10.) That event

    was key to God’s subsequent dealings with Israel.

    Not long thereafter, Jehovah established a means by

    which to summon his people. He ordered Moses to

    make two silver trumpets that would be used to call

    “the whole assembly” to meet “at the entrance of the

    tent of meeting.” (Num. 10:1-4) Try to imagine the

    excitement on such occasions!

    COMMENTS

    So has there been such a display at any convention, Bible Student or jw? Did is make them see that God was real? Why only months later the formed a golden calf and worshipped it?

    At conventions of jws today, there are the constant reminders to the talking, walking jws that the convention is about to start, take your seat, as they ignore it, the worst offenders the so-called “mature” jws, elders, their wives, etc. They signal with “kingdom” music and they still ignore the “request.”

    4, 5. Why were conventions that were held by

    Moses and Joshua particularly significant?

    4 Toward the end of Israel’s 40-year

    sojourn in the wilderness, at a critical

    moment in that relatively new nation’s

    history, Moses assembled his fellow Israelites.

    They were poised to enter the

    Promised Land. This was the right time

    for Moses to remind his brothers of all

    that Jehovah had done for them and all

    that he would still do for them.—Deut.

    29:1-15; 30:15-20; 31:30.

    COMMENTS

    These ones were not the original Israelites who reached the Promised Land just months after leaving Egypt. These were the children of the ones who died during the next 40 years for failing to trust God. Even Moses himself would not pass over to this land due to God’s displeasure. Is the WTS going to suggest that conventions since 1882 (WTS) are significant. Rutherford said the ones starting in 1922 Cedar Point did, fulfilling bible scriptures.

    5 Perhaps at that same convention,

    Moses referred to the regular provision

    for the assembly and education of God’s

    people. In Sabbath years during the Festival

    of Booths, the men, women, children,

    and alien residents of Israel were

    to congregate in the place Jehovah chose

    ‘in order for them to listen and in order

    for them to learn to fear Jehovah and

    take care to carry out all the words of

    the law.’ (Read Deuteronomy 31:1, 10-

    12.) So at this early stage in the history

    of God’s people, it was clear that they

    were to gather frequently to consider Jehovah’s

    word and purposes. When the

    Israelites had completed the conquest of

    the Promised Land but were still surrounded

    by pagan nations, Joshua assembled

    all Israel with the aim of fortifying

    their resolve to remain loyal to

    Jehovah. In response, the people made

    an oath to serve God.—Josh. 23:1, 2; 24:

    1, 15, 21-24.

    COMMENTS

    PERHAPS…The WTS adds to the scriptures to match their description of conventions today.

    Rather what did Moses say?

    (Deuteronomy 12:32) Every word that I am commanding YOU is what YOU should be careful to do. YOU must not add to it nor take away from it.

    IT WAS CLEAR – but no clear enough, the WTS had to add to it…perhaps

    Did Israeli complete the conquest of the Promised Land, they why did Canaanites remain long after?

    *** w04 12/1 p.12***

    Though the sons of Israel failed to drive the Canaanites away from among them completely, the survivors were no real threat to Israel’s security. (Joshua 16:10; 17:12)

    6, 7. How can it be said that modern conventions

    of Jehovah’s people have been important

    milestones?

    6 In the modern history of Jehovah’s

    people, there have also been landmark

    conventions—events that marked major

    developments in theocratic activities or

    Scriptural understanding. (Prov. 4:18)

    The first major convention that the Bible

    Students held after World War I was

    in 1919 in Cedar Point, Ohio, U.S.A.

    That gathering, attended by some 7,000,

    was marked by the launching of a global

    preaching campaign. In 1922, during

    a nine-day convention at the same location,

    dramatic impetus was given to

    this activity by Joseph F. Rutherford,

    who urged his attentive audience: “Be

    faithful and true witnesses for the Lord.

    Go forward in the fight until every vestige

    of Babylon lies desolate. Herald the

    message far and wide. The world must

    know that Jehovah is God and that Jesus

    Christ is King of kings and Lord

    of lords. This is the day of all days.

    Behold, the King reigns! You are his

    publicity agents. Therefore advertise, advertise,

    advertise, the King and his kingdom.”

    Attendees, and indeed God’s people

    worldwide, joyfully embraced that

    exhortation.

    COMMENTS

    Imagine a 9-day convention………..

    Why did Rutherford give this “advertise” talk. Just shortly after 1918 when the Board of Directors were imprisoned, the publishing of the WT slowed to almost non-existence. Except for a few colporteurs, few jws ever went door to door. The Bible Students failed to see the end come in 1914 or their going to heaven to be with Christ as “promised” by those in charge. Rutherford had maneuvered legally to take over the WTS in 1918 or so and he had to give the rank and file something else to think about.

    7 In Columbus, Ohio, in 1931, the Bible

    Students were absolutely thrilled

    to accept the name Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    Then in 1935, in Washington, D.C.,

    Brother Rutherford identified the “great

    crowd,” described in Revelation as

    “standing before the throne and before

    the Lamb.” (Rev. 7:9-17) In 1942, in the

    midst of World War II, Nathan H. Knorr

    delivered the thrilling discourse “Peace

    —Can It Last?” In it, he identified the

    “scarlet-colored wild beast” of Revelation

    17 and indicated that there would

    still be much preaching to do after the

    war.

    COMMENTS

    He battled the other Bible Students, leaders among them, and did not want the confusion of being identified with them—new name. The number of jws was growing close to 144,000 and beyond, a second group then of jws, earth bound.

    It was prophecy to know that the United Nations would form, it formed in January 1942, months before Knorr’s talk.

    Rutherford had said that the US and the UK would lose in WW2, but he died in 1942, and Knorr took a different tack.

    Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower 1941 September 15 p.288

    8, 9. Why have certain conventions proved to

    be particularly moving?

    8 Especially notable at the 1946 “Glad

    Nations” Theocratic Assembly in Cleveland,

    Ohio, was Brother Knorr’s discourse

    “The Problems of Reconstruction

    and Expansion.” Capturing the

    excitement generated by that talk, one

    attendee wrote: “I had the privilege of

    being behind him on the platform that

    evening, and as he outlined the work

    and then told about the plans for enlarging

    the Brooklyn Bethel home and factory,

    the applause from the vast audience

    surged in renewed outbursts. While one

    could see no distinct face from the platform,

    it was easy to sense their joy.”

    At an international convention in New

    York City in 1950, the audience was delighted

    to receive the New World Translation

    of the Christian Greek Scriptures, the

    first installment of a modern-language

    Bible that restored God’s name to its

    rightful place in his Word.—Jer. 16:21.

    COMMENTS

    A privilege = like being behind Jesus!

    NWT = new words to shape the doctrinal teachings of the WTS that other bibles were not adequate for evidently.

    Remember don’t buy the statement that the WTS only puts Jehovah where it is quoted from the OT, they take liberties and put it elsewhere.

    9 Conventions at which Jehovah gathered

    his faithful Witnesses after periods

    of persecution or ban were also intensely

    moving. Adolf Hitler had vowed

    to destroy Jehovah’s Witnesses in Germany,

    but 107,000 of them filled his former

    parade grounds in Nuremberg during

    a convention in 1955. Many of

    those present could not hold back their

    tears of joy! Among the 166,518 delegates

    at three “Godly Devotion” conventions

    held in Poland in 1989 were large

    numbers of delegates from what were

    then the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia,

    and from other Eastern European

    countries. For some, it was the

    first time they had attended a gathering

    of more than 15 or 20 of God’s people.

    And imagine the joy at the 1993

    “Divine Teaching” International Convention

    in Kiev, Ukraine, where 7,402

    were immersed—the largest baptism of

    Jehovah’s Witnesses on record.—Isa. 60:

    22; Hag. 2:7.

    COMMENTS

    Remember that relatively few jws died during that time but 6 million Jews, and 6 million non-Jews did.

    That many other religions have survived persecution in Europe and elsewhere. www.forum18.org

    Was God their protector or only the jws?

    Do numbers prove God supports that religion?

    10. Which conventions have been especially

    memorable for you, and why?

    10 Perhaps there are district conventions

    or international conventions that

    stand out in your mind. Do you remember

    your first convention or perhaps the

    one at which you were baptized? These

    were landmark spiritual events for you.

    Treasure those memories!—Ps. 42:4.

    COMMENTS

    Do you remember? Hopefully no one else remembers so they cannot prove you were baptized; and the service overseer did not put it on the publisher card. No one took any pictures or was present. Large conventions are good for disappearing. Well, it worked for some.

    REGULAR OCCASIONS FOR REJOICING

    11. What arrangement for regular seasonal festivals

    did God institute in ancient Israel?

    11 Jehovah required that the Israelites

    assemble in Jerusalem for three seasonal

    festivals each year—the Festival of Unfermented

    Cakes, the Festival of Weeks

    (later called Pentecost), and the Festival

    of Booths. Concerning these, God commanded:

    “On three occasions in the year

    every male of yours will appear before

    the face of the true Lord, Jehovah.” (Ex.

    23:14-17) Recognizing the great spiritual

    value of these festivals, many family

    heads attended with their entire family.

    —1 Sam. 1:1-7; Luke 2:41, 42.

    COMMENTS

    Did God require that the “Israelites” assemble or “every male of yours will appear”?

    *** w75 4/1p.220***

    Mary was devoted to true worship. Though, being a woman, she was not obligated by the Mosaic law to be present for the festival of the passover, yet she customarily attended that festival at Jerusalem along with her husband Joseph. (Luke 2:41; Ex. 23:17; 34:23)

    Notice how the WTS avoids that by saying “many family heads attended with their entire family.”

    Thus women and children were not required to attend? Who would watch the homesteads too while the Israelites were gone, non-Jewish slaves?

    12, 13. Attendance at the annual festivals

    meant what for many Israelites?

    12 Think about what it meant for an

    Israelite family to make that journey. Joseph

    and Mary, for example, would travel

    about 60 miles (100 km) one way from

    Nazareth to Jerusalem. How long do

    you think it would take you to complete

    such a trip, walking with small children?

    The account of Jesus’ visit to Jerusalem

    as a boy reveals that relatives and acquaintances

    might make such trips as a group. It must

    have been quite an experience for

    them to travel and prepare meals

    together and to organize suitable

    sleeping arrangements in unfamiliar

    locations. Yet, conditions were safe

    enough for a 12-year-old like Jesus to be

    allowed a certain amount of freedom.

    Think how unforgettable that would

    have been, especially for the youngsters!

    —Luke 2:44-46.

    COMMENTS

    So what jws would walk 60 miles to a convention today? With small children? Would they stay home if that were the only choice?

    *** w98 5/1 p.32***

    NDJAUKUA ULIMBA is 73 years old, and last year he went on a journey of some 280 miles [450km]. He walked the entire distance, and it took him 16 days.

    This elderly gentleman made his long journey in order to attend one of the annual conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses. After the convention, overjoyed and spiritually strengthened, he walked home again—another 16 days.

    13 When the Israelites were widely

    dispersed outside the borders of their

    homeland, those attending the festivals

    came from many nations. At Pentecost

    of the year 33 C.E., appreciative Jews

    and proselytes traveled to Jerusalem

    from such places as Italy, Libya, Crete,

    Asia Minor, and Mesopotamia.—Acts 2:

    5-11; 20:16.

    COMMENTS

    How many jws today would go to the 1958 convention for 8 days…who had that much vacation, money?

    14. How did the Israelites benefit from attending

    the annual festivals?

    14 For faithful Israelites, the high

    point and focus of such trips was the

    spiritual aspect—their eagerly worshipping

    Jehovah alongside thousands of appreciative

    celebrants. What would be the

    effect on those who attended? An answer

    can be found in Jehovah’s directions

    to his people regarding the Festival

    of Booths: “You must rejoice during

    your festival, you and your son and your

    daughter and your man slave and your

    slave girl and the Levite and the alien

    resident and the fatherless boy and the

    widow, who are inside your gates. Seven

    days you will celebrate the festival to

    Jehovah your God in the place that Jehovah

    will choose, because Jehovah your

    God will bless you in all your produce

    and in every deed of your hand, and you

    must become nothing but joyful.”—Deut.

    16:14, 15; read Matthew 5:3.

    COMMENTS

    I would go and see people eat, talk, sleep during the convention. Some taped it perhaps to listen to later, but more likely just put away or tape over and get someone else’s notes.

    Fatherless jw children….I was one, no one offered transportation, a place to stay, food. We even had to scrape up money for the new publications. We weren’t worthy, missed too many meetings due to my non-jw father’s schedule.

    WHY APPRECIATE

    MODERN CONVENTIONS?

    15, 16. What sacrifices have you had to make

    in order to attend conventions? Why is the effort

    worthwhile?

    15 What excellent examples these ancient

    gatherings provide for God’s people

    today! Although many things have

    changed over the centuries, the essential

    aspects of conventions have not. In Bible

    times, conventioners had to make sacrifices

    to attend. So do many today. Yet,

    the benefits are well worth the effort.

    These events were—and still are—important

    spiritual occasions. They provide

    us with information and understanding

    that are critical to our maintaining

    a close relationship with God. Conventions motivate

    us to apply what we learn,

    help us to avoid problems, and encourage

    us to stay focused on pursuits and

    interests that will refresh us rather than

    weigh us down.—Ps. 122:1-4.

    COMMENTS

    So the elders and their families at the hotels who have booze/beer parties as their children are downstairs making a bad name for God as they take over the swimming pool and use the elevators for toys and mouth off to the management…

    Information and understanding that evidently can’t be understood with just the bible and God’s spirit…all the Christians had were the OT, which did not start to be written until 41 CE and not canonized till years later.

    When the speakers said to talk to the people around you after the convention that you did not know, did they talk to you or run off to have dinner with their “friends”?

    A close relationship with God – no close relationship with Jesus?

    16 Joy is a recurring experience among

    conventioners. A report on a large convention

    in 1946 noted: “It was a thrilling

    sight to observe the many thousands

    of witnesses comfortably accommodated,

    and even more joyous to listen as

    a large orchestra joined with the voices

    of the multitudes to make the stands

    ring with gladsome Kingdom songs of

    praise to Jehovah.” The report added:

    “The Volunteer Service Department registered

    workers from among the delegates

    to man all [the] departments, purely

    out of the joy of serving their fellow

    witnesses.” Have you too felt such excitement

    at district conventions or international

    conventions?—Ps. 110:3; Isa. 42:

    10-12.

    COMMENTS

    No more orchestras, live music

    Have jws today mastered the new songbook…except for the painful meeting experiences, do any practice at home.

    17. How has the organization of conventions

    been modified in recent times?

    17 Certain things have changed in the

    way conventions are organized. For example,

    some of God’s people remember

    when conventions might last eight

    days! There were morning, afternoon,

    and evening sessions. Field service was

    a regular part of the program. A few

    parts began at nine in the morning, and

    there were often sessions until nine at

    night. Volunteers worked long and hard

    to prepare breakfast, lunch, and supper

    for attendees. Now the schedule provides

    for shorter convention days, and

    food preparation done by families and

    individuals ahead of time allows them to

    give more attention to the spiritual feeding

    program.

    COMMENTS

    No rooming

    No cafeterias

    No fast food area

    No more free food

    Lasted nine days

    Lasted eight days

    Then 5

    Then 4

    Then 3

    *** km2/06 p.3par.32007***

    It has been observed that the Friday attendance is considerably lower than that on other days.

    So if you have traveled some distance from home to the convention and it is 3 days long, how do you prepare food in your hotel room for a family of 4 or more?

    *** km 5/00 p.4 par.5***

    Some of the hotels offering a complimentary breakfast have complained that our brothers are abusing the arrangement by taking large amounts of food items with them even after they have eaten at the hotel. When a hotel provides food in the morning for its guests, it is to be regarded as what it is—a complimentary breakfast for those who are staying there. It is not intended that we take these food items with us to eat later or to share with friends at the convention.

    18, 19. What aspects of conventions do you

    look forward to, and why?

    18 Convention features that have long

    been part of the program are widely anticipated.

    spiritual “food at the proper time,” giving

    us a better understanding

    of Bible prophecies and teachings,

    has come not only from discourses but

    also through new publications released

    at conventions. (Matt. 24:45) Such releases

    are often tools that help sincere

    individuals appreciate Scriptural truths.

    Stimulating Bible-based dramas encourage

    both young and old to examine their

    motives and guard against the pressures

    exerted by the world’s ungodly thinking.

    The baptism talk likewise offers all of us

    an opportunity to review our priorities

    in life and to experience the joy of seeing

    others symbolize their dedication to

    Jehovah.

    COMMENTS

    So do jws understand the disappearance of the 1914 generation, the overlapping generation, the choosing of the FDS is now future, do they care? As long as they get everlasting life in Paradise SOON, before they die.

    19 Yes, long a part of pure worship,

    conventions equip Jehovah’s joyful people

    to serve him appropriately in challenging

    times. Such gatherings provide

    spiritual stimulus, offer opportunities to

    meet new friends, help us to appreciate

    our worldwide association of brothers,

    and are a key means by which Jehovah

    blesses and cares for his people.

    Surely, each one of us will want to organize

    his affairs so as to attend and benefit

    from every session of each convention.

    —Prov. 10:22.

    COMMENTS

    So are jws joyful because of the “new understanding” or it’s a social occasion to see jw friends from other congregations? A time for young jws to scope out possible marriage mates? A time for younger jws to be alone in their hotel room and play video games? Do they sit around with mom and dad or are they off having a big party with alcohol/beer and be groggy the next morning?

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next Week, Meeting Today’s Adversities With Courage

    Message today, you are an Israelite and go to the conventions God ordered his people to attend. Well, the men at least.

    Love, Blondie

  • wisdomfrombelow
    wisdomfrombelow

    I would have loved to have someone mention at the 1919 convention the Golden Age magazine was introduced and then to highlight some of the information that magazine included. That would be very educational indeed.

  • undercover
    undercover

    The first major convention that the Bible Students held after World War I was in 1919 in Cedar Point, Ohio, U.S.A. That gathering, attended by some 7,000, was marked by the launching of a global preaching campaign. In 1922, during a nine-day convention at the same location, dramatic impetus was given to this activity by Joseph F. Rutherford...

    ooh ooh... here's an oppurtunity to maybe rattle some sensibilities of anyone actually paying attention. At best, it might cause someone to go, "WTF??" and start to question the sanity of whoever is writing WT publications. At worst, it mocks the WTS and makes fun of the importance the WTS attempts to attach their boring snooze fests.

    Just comment about the importance of attending the conventions. Have your "Revelation - Grand Climax" book handy and point out that the two conventions mentioned in this paragraph were actually two of the seven trumpet blasts of Revelation 8, 9 and 11. How wonderful to know that we are living in such wonderous times of Bible prophecy fulfillment, where Jehovah actually uses our conventions as prophetic trumpet blasts. Imagine if one of the convention this coming summer is just as thunderous in importance as the 1919 or 1922 trumpet blast of Revelation!

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    MAR - king!!!

    Thank you, Blondie!!!

    Awww.... This was too cute to pass up!!

    kitty in poinsettias

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    Blondid you never cease to amaze.

    ofc

    xo

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    Kind of a weird WT study. Along the lines of that one a few months ago that was about "meetings". Really? These guys have to have a "meeting" about their "big meetings"? The water must be really low in the well up there in Brooklyn.

    Could it be more and more JWs are just saying "Screw it" when it comes to attending these bore-fests? There were always some who said they were going a different weekend to see their family or other friends?

    Maybe word is getting back to HQ that too many are ditching school?

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
    ÁrbolesdeArabia

    I have hated attending meetings from infancy, why?

    1. Assholes stealing whole blocks of seats, leaving "nose bleeding seats for the "elderly Witnesses" until the Org figured the liability of forcing a 90 year old to climb the top of Dodger Stadium or a single-mother with five kids danging from her hip. Kids hated these events the old geezers dragged them to!

    2. The wicked heat waves and smog during the Summer Convention, the Sun beating down on us, or the Umbrellas of others blocking our views of the Dramas.

    3. Working in Food Concession Stands did not allow us to listen to "life saving talks", were these not really necessary if I spent from 10am to 1:30 PM working with food products for hungry hippos?

    4. Families in front of us (I feel sorry for a 1-6 year old) trying to sit still, while listening to some old-hag or curmugeon yell "Sheesh!", "Sheesh you want to live in the Paradise, Jehovah want's you sitting still in the 103 degree heat!

    5. "King Pinns From Bethel" had covered areas to sit back, every need was taken care of this Aristocracy, while brothers and sisters bowed before them like Apostles or Jesus Christ himself.

    6. Hotels, Hotels and No Hotels. How is it that people were "booked" for hotels next door to the Convention Center before the release date of from the Kingdom Ministry? Cheating? Fraud?

    Why is getting a hotel such a nightmare for the average "rank-and-file" JW? Elders peeked into the "Designated Hotel List" and allowed their wives or called them self to get premium lodging. I hated District, Circuit, Special Days!

    7. Let the kids have the dam Swimming Pools! Poor little runts, they sat all day in these God-forsaken conditions and this is the only bit of mercy left for these little guys. I hold no envy if they robbed me by stealing the pool! I pitied the children, those kids and toddler's whose poor butts hurt from sitting hours on shitty seats! Adults can handle this shit, kids were not required to attend these meeting according to the Mosaic Law, yet JWs push the imagine that all must attend the Sardine Packed Dramas!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    This was really a do-nothing, say-nothing WT article.

    B*O*R*I*N*G

    Just filler.

    Doc

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
    ÁrbolesdeArabia

    @blondie, did you have kids to drag around these "hell fest's" called Assemblies? I hope you had joy of finding seats for a family of six, plus adding the old-timers (who did not bathe) in your F-350 Van the other's (Shining examples of joyful elders and elderettes who "were not in a position to help the crazy dubs) had no desire to drive. I know you and your husband probably got stuck dragging plenty of misfits and crazy ones just as I did (Sucks having a conscience don't it?) who cares if driving these crazy members almost caused us to almost divorce, created havoc and hell for our primary responsiblity, but it was all in the name of the Love, something most of the Cult never experienced:)

    DOC is there a forumula of how long before the next "re-run" article from twelve to eigthteenmonths is ready to be updated with a few scares, "End Times" "Field Service" add Iron Lung Illustration" importance of Assembly in Nigeria "Bus Accident", the man who walked with one leg "Three hundred Miles in the Gobi Desert to get to a meeting at the top of Nephal?

    The Magazines are nothing more than re-runs with filler added like the recent "new lite dressing" from the Annual Meeting. If we reviewed the last forty years of magazines, I bet we could find a running cycle the way "Text Books In College Are Written", a certain percentage of material must be updated but you can still use the bulk of the material. What do you think, are the magazines new and refreshing or Re-Runs?

  • St George of England
    St George of England

    For some reason probably known to the GB they are also re-writing their past with the very term 'convention'. They were always known as 'assemblies'.

    In fact in the very article above there is a photograph of the 1950 'convention', but if you look at the actual picture you will see the banner 1950 assembly.

    We have the old 1958 Divine Will Assembly photo in our KH. No mention of there of a convention, it's an ASSEMBLY.

    George

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