Conti v Watchtower - Court Denies Watchtower Motion re: Substituting Bond - November 16 court documents in pdf

by jwleaks 102 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    There is a California Law Firm for Appeals hired by the WTS, right? No doubt this case is out of the experience of the WTS Legal, but why didn't the California Law Firm inform the WTS. of the CA law that Patterson could not be used as colateral (or whatever) since Patterson is out of state?

    I wonder if they (WT) are prolonging all this, to get the Court to make a mistake or find a way to prove that the Court has 'prejudice.' They must be desparate for a "loophole."

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    besty - "Therefore the WTS must consider their chance of winning on appeal to be good, otherwise they wouldn't have pursued the Patterson nonsense - bear in mind the bond premium is $86k per annum - not even a drop in the ocean for the WTS - set against the $500k per annum investment return on the $11m they haven't had to surrender to Conti. (Never mind that $11m is pocket change with the rest of their assets)"

    Not quite.

    The WTS does indeed consider their chance of winning on appeal to be good, but not for the reasons you think.

    It's because they really do believe that God's got their back, and that they have the moral high ground.

    In addition, the cash they have to pay out is not necessarily a drop in the bucket for them; apparently a great deal of their assets consist of real estate that is difficult to liquidate and/or can only be sold at below asking price.

  • cedars
    cedars

    Vidiot makes an excellent point. It's easy to overstate the pragmatism with which Watchtower is fighting this lawsuit. Being an indoctrinated cult victim and believing your client enjoys divine guidance and backing is bound to be a major handicap in this sort of case.

    Cedars

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Cedars - "Rick Simons is perhaps the best placed out of anyone to know the likelihood of success. If he can pull this off without reaching settlement it will be a career-defining victory and make him one of the most desirable lawyers in the country."

    It would very neatly explain why Conti's family doesn't seem overly worried about gargantual legal fees.

  • Scott77
    Scott77

    There is a California Law Firm for Appeals hired by the WTS, right? No doubt this case is out of the experience of the WTS Legal, but why didn't the California Law Firm inform the WTS. of the CA law that Patterson could not be used as colateral (or whatever) since Patterson is out of state?

    I wonder if they (WT) are prolonging all this, to get the Court to make a mistake or find a way to prove that the Court has 'prejudice.' They must be desparate for a "loophole."

    Gayle

    Hi Gayle, Mr 144001 did indicate a few weeks ago that the Watchtower is represented by one of the best and most experienced Law Firm in the Nation.It has extensive legal resources at its disposal yet he correctly wondered how on earth could the Judge accept the Watchtower lawyers's request for a 15 Oral testimony from a WTS knowledgeable about Paterson. The fact these learned attorney know very well the limitation of a property substitution but nevertheles, went a head to fill a request without providing a known preceedent. This smarcks of a desparation.

    Scott77

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Keep in mind the WTS has successfully won at the Supreme Court level for their right to freedom of speech. They've milked that righteous win for many years. They may mistakenly believe this has the potential to do the same.

    For what?

    The right to keep quiet about wolves in their midst?

    May the lose hard.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    The WTS does indeed consider their chance of winning on appeal to be good, but not for the reasons you think.

    It's because they really do believe that God's got their back, and that they have the moral high ground.

    Good news all around, but the above comment caught my eye. I wonder about the WTS's motivations too. Is it that it has bought into its own press and think God's on its side? Is it because the legal decision-makers hate that they have lost to Ms. Conti and are now just trying to jerk her around? A little bit of both? ...guess we'll never know the whole picture.

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "Travelers is a VERY conservative insurer, and has no problem saying NO (unless the underwriter is a JW who has not fully informed the boss about Watchtower). If this is the case, a few emails to Travelers Insurance Investors relations, and loss control Dept. might be in order." Balaamsass, page 1

    If Travelers is very conservative, they would be more likely to assist a "Christian" organization, especially if the Watchtower represented itself to them as the "innocent, injured" party in all of this...

    Or maybe Travelers is just very well aware of how much the Watchtower is worth...$$$$$

    Never mind - the answer was lower down on page 1...

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "...As I said above, I think the WTBTS will be trying to settle with Conti. The only question is how much are they willing to offer to make this go away? If they do settle, they will insist on confidentiality provisions that will prevent Conti or her lawyers from disclosing any details of the deal." 144001, page 1

    However, the details of the CASE are now public record, and cannot be sealed, right? So the most significant part of the situation is that the inner workings of the Watchtower Society in the way that they mis-handle child sexual abuse cases is now out there for anyone in the public to access....

    Am I correct in stating this?

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Correct, Ziddania. All that has been made public record cannot be made private again.

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