A funy thing happened to me ...

by scotoma 20 Replies latest jw friends

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  scotoma

  I suddenly realized that this board has the same methods at its disposal as the Watchtower and it will use them. And there's no appeal.

  I am so saddened by this I feel like killing myself. (I'm serious)

  This was my last refuge of being able to discuss things that are on my mind.

  And now I see there is no hope.

  I see that this community will act in an authoritarian way.

  Moderators can form a lynch mob and remove a post anytime they want to.

  I always thought that if you don't like or agree with what a person says just tell them or even ignore them.

  But, to trample on their sincere effort at communicating a deeply thought out idea... that's traumatic.
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  Aware!

  What do you want to discuss?
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  Diest

  Honestly your idea and point was quite valid. Timing is everything. I have enjoyed your posts before so I dont think you should dispair so quickly. I hope you stay and continue to post.
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  mouthy

  This is a place to tell us all about how your feeling?

  I am the Granny on board .I want to help ,but if you right off the bat

  think we are a bunch of cads, Please tell us why you believe that

  I see your a newbie... So tell Grammie what your feeling .

  As for killing yourself. What would that achieve? Life gets so much better
  when we make friends .As a Kid we used to lock little fingers ( to a new friend)
  So here is my little finger can we be friends? I hope so. I am an old (85) & you
  may think " she a stupid old bird" & you would be right I am..But I truly mean it
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  King Solomon

  scotoma said:

  I always thought that if you don't like or agree with what a person says just tell them or even ignore them.

  But, to trample on their sincere effort at communicating a deeply thought out idea... that's traumatic.

  Heh, I was thinking the same thing today about how JWN is very similiar to JW's, with good folks jockeying to get a leg up on others, trying to establish a pecking order (based on seniority or whatever), demanding others think like they do, etc. You can take the person out of JWs, but unfortunately you cannot open their World view when it's been so inculcated into them. That's just human nature, and that's kind of the point: you are more likely to encounter those personality types, whether in JWs or ex-JWs.

  I brought it up recently in the form of the hypocrisy of blaming the GB for every bad thing that happens, but not holding the R&F JW accountable when THEY shun others. Nope: every person is accountable for their own actions (if only to themselves).

  I'd recommend you take a break from the board: there is OH SO MUCH MORE to life out there, besides the World of JWs and Ex-JWs. Focusing on both is negative energy for many people, since there is an air of people who feel victimized and helpless, focusing on what they lost and not empowered to do whatever it is they do to be satisfied with their lives to move on. We all need a vacay now and then, and see if you can find a new perspective, a new way of looking at the World, free from the media, and others, etc.

  I wish you the best! This too shall pass....
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  grumblecakes

  Awwwww Mouthy, thats so sweet!

  Can I get in on that? (eagerly holding up both little fingers!)

  I miss having a Gramma so much!
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  Phizzy

  Dear Scotoma, you may be feeling some bad stuff right now, but believe me, I have been there, and time is a great healer.

  I have been suicidal, but I have come through, although I drop back down close to "dangerous" from time to time.

  I am just so glad to be here to see the good stuff, to see my oldest son find happiness with a wonderful girl, to see people awake and leave the terrible influence of the W.T

  to see my wife's lovely face smiling at me

  It is JWN and the good people on here that has kept me from doing the unthinkable. O.K , it can be exasperating, annoying, even hurtful sometimes on here, but it really is a wonderful place, as is the rest of the World, do not give up on it, there is so much for you that is good, and happy, and wonderful... yet to happen !
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  mouthy

  Mouthy's little finger locked with grumblecakes ..

  .Only one the other one hurts too much with my Rheamatoid Arth
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  elderelite

  Scotoma, dont take it hard. I acknowledged right away you had a valid point for discussion. Go back and look. Its there. But a man just killed himself. He was known and cared for by many here. You simply have to understand it was Bad timming. Give it a little while and the board will be fine with that discussion.

  One of the most difficult lessons of leaving the org is that it isnt always about you. It wasnt that your thought was evil or that you personally are unliked.. Its simply bad form to assign blame so soon after a death.

  Stay strong and reach out for help, real help, now! No more pain this weekend.
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  rip van winkle

  Hi Scotoma, people are people no matter where. It's just when people are anonymous, they sometimes feel they do not need to censor or be tactful with their words. And even those that try can sometimes put their foot in their mouth. I know, because I have done it.

  I will never tell a person not to feel what they feel. I am sorry that you are feeling so desperate. Please do not despair, Scotoma. There ARE people here who care about you and care about what you have to say.

  I think what Diest and Mouthy and Ksol and Phizzy all said is valid, Sometimes timing IS everything. Sometimes we need to know that there's a hand waiting for us to grab onto. Sometimes we need to turn off the computer and step away. And sometimes the advice given by someone who has been there is like a life-line.

  We are glad you are here, Scotoma.

  Edit to add and also what EE said