GB will do your research for you, just sit back and absorb

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  • irondork

    I know a statement like this has appeared in the literature but I cannot find it. Searching this forum, I am unable to find a conversation on it.

    It's out there somewhere. Please help!

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Andre only uses WT publications

    *** w11 2/15 p. 19 Do You Really Appreciate Your Blessings? ***

    Another blessing that Jehovah has bestowed upon us is the great body of Scriptural truth. As we feast on an abundance of rich spiritual food, we have reason to “cry out joyfully because of the good condition of the heart.” (Isa. 65:13, 14) However, we must be on guard against allowing unwholesome influences to cause us to lose our enthusiasm for the truth. For example, paying attention to apostate propaganda can becloud our thinking and blind us to the value of the spiritual “food at the proper time” made available by Jehovah through “the faithful and discreet slave.”—Matt. 24:45-47.

    André, who had served Jehovah for years, had the bitter experience of being led astray by apostate thinking. He felt that having a quick look at an apostate Web site would not be dangerous. He recalls: “Initially, I was attracted to the so-called truths that the apostates spoke of. The more I examined what they said, the more I came to think that I was justified in leaving Jehovah’s organization. But later, as I did some research on the apostates’ arguments against Jehovah’s Witnesses, I became aware of how crafty the false teachers were. Information taken out of context was their ‘strong evidence’ against us. Thus, I decided to start reading our publications again and to attend the meetings. Soon I realized how much I had missed.” Happily, André returned to the congregation.

  • WinstonSmith

    Andre. LOL, gets me every time!

  • Fernando

    Try this (or similar) sentence scope search string in the electronic Watchtower library (CD Rom):

    (“the anointed“/“faithful and discreet slave“/“governing body“) research

  • Fernando

    Two of the 36 hits for the above search in wt lib 2010:

    *** km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box ***
    Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research or debate?—Matt. 24:45, 47.

    No, it does not. And yet, in various parts of the world, a few associates of our organization have formed groups to do independent research on Bible-related subjects. Some have pursued an independent group study of Biblical Hebrew and Greek so as to analyze the accuracy of the New World Translation. Others explore scientific subjects related to the Bible. They have created Web sites and chat rooms for the purpose of exchanging and debating their views. They have also held conferences and produced publications to present their findings and to supplement what is provided at our Christian meetings and through our literature.

    Throughout the earth, Jehovah’s people are receiving ample spiritual instruction and encouragement at congregation meetings, assemblies, and conventions, as well as through the publications of Jehovah’s organization. Under the guidance of his holy spirit and on the basis of his Word of truth, Jehovah provides what is needed so that all of God’s people may be “fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought” and remain “stabilized in the faith.” (1 Cor. 1:10; Col. 2:6, 7) Surely we are grateful for Jehovah’s spiritual provisions in these last days. Thus, “the faithful and discreet slave” does not endorse any literature, meetings, or Web sites that are not produced or organized under its oversight.—Matt. 24:45-47.

    It is commendable for individuals to want to use their thinking ability in support of the good news. However, no personal pursuit should detract from what Jesus Christ is accomplishing through his congregation on earth today. In the first century, the apostle Paul warned about getting involved in exhausting, time-consuming subjects, such as “genealogies, which end up in nothing, but which furnish questions for research rather than a dispensing of anything by God in connection with faith.” (1 Tim. 1:3-7) All Christians should strive to “shun foolish questionings and genealogies and strife and fights over the Law, for they are unprofitable and futile.”—Titus 3:9.

    For those who wish to do extra Bible study and research, we recommend that they explore Insight on the Scriptures, “All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial,” and our other publications, such as those that discuss the prophecies found in the Bible books of Daniel, Isaiah, and Revelation. These provide abundant material for Bible study and meditation, whereby we can be “filled with the accurate knowledge of [God’s] will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, in order to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing him as [we] go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God.”—Col. 1:9, 10.

  • Phizzy

    Thanks Fernando, it was that K.M that was the straw that broke the camel's back for a number of JW's, to be told that the GB will do our thinking for us did not sit well with many, we had seen where their thinking had gone, and where it had got JW's over the years.

    That K.M quote also highlights not just the control they wish to have over information, but over any working of the Holy Spirit, they claim that the H.S only works through them, that Jehovah and Jesus only get to an individual through them, immense claims like that deserve some pretty huge evidence to back them up.

    There is simply NO evidence. Their claims are blasphemous.

  • outsmartthesystem

    Nov 1, 1987 Watchtower (p20) - "Since our Lord has used the Faithful and Discreet Slave to convey to us the saying of everlasting life, why should we look elsewhere?".

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    I knew I shouldn't have opened the CD Rom because then I found this:

    *** w11 10/15 p. 32 Questions From Readers ***

    What if you have done all you can to search out a matter that affects you personally but still have not found the direction or solution you need? Feel free to approach a mature fellow believer, perhaps one of the local elders. They have considerable Bible knowledge as well as experience in Christian living. Their balanced help would be especially fitting if you need advice about a personal problem or decision, for they know you and are close to you and your situation. And never forget to pray to Jehovah specifically about your concerns and ask him to guide your thinking by means of his holy spirit, “for Jehovah himself gives wisdom . . . and discernment.”—Prov. 2:6; Luke 11:13.

    guide your thinking by means of his holy spirit, How is this not "being inspired by holy spirit" a privilege not even the GB claim to have?

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Fernando, I've noticed how the WT, when it curretnly refers to Greek or Hebrew words, does so indirectly and not by specific identification as they once did in their articles and talk outlines (i.e. "cosmos", "oklumene" "nephesh", "pysche", "porneia", etc.)...

    It seems they consciously want to steer readers away from delving into the original languages... strange for an organization that published as many as 850,000 copies of the Kingdom Interlinear Translation Of The Christian Greek Scriptures as recently as 1985, not to mention the Emphatic Diaglott... remember these?

    By the way, the Interlinear is something of a collectivle item, offered occasionally on ebay for abut $40 or so.

  • Honesty

    June 1, 1967 Watchtower

    Page 338

    Paragraph 12

    We may think of study as hard work, as involving heavy research. But in Jehovah’s organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to do that very thing, to help you who do not have so much time for this, these preparing the good material in The Watchtower and other publications of the Society.

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