Was Charles T. Russell Baptised?

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  • ozziepost
    Charles Taze Russell was baptized. In 1874 along with his Father, Jospeh and sister, Margaret. It is reported in the 1907 Convention Reports. During the "Praise and Testimont meeting" Margaret Russell Land, testified.

    That's very interesting, RR. Thanks for the info.

    Do you think it's possible to scan the reference and put it in a post?


    "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

    - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

  • RR

    Okay, here it is:


    Praise and Testimony Meeting
    Sister Margaret Russell Land (Brother Russell's sister) arose and

    Dear Brethren: I rejoice to be here; undoubtedly the Master, the
    Chief Reaper, is in our midst. How our hearts rejoice as we
    realize it is His spirit which illuminates each countenance and
    teaches us how to love one another! How true His words, "My
    sheep know My voice, and another they will not follow."

    Since coming here many have inquired, "How long since you
    came to a knowledge of the Truth"? Upon my reply that it is
    "about thirty-three years," much interest has been expressed, with
    desire to learn something of the infancy and growth of what we
    term "present truth." After hearing, these have expressed great
    desire that still others should hear the same as a stimulus to their
    faith; so I trust that my testimony may be used of the Master to
    the blessing of some of His little ones.

    Taking retrospective view, we see that more than 1,900 years ago the seed of Truth was planted. My mind pictures the seed-germ encased in the hard cover, representing the dark ages, which apparently hindered its growth, until "the due time," about the 16th century, when it sprouted. Laborers such as Zwingli, Malanthon, Luther, Calvin, Knox and Wesley were hired during various periods of its development to water this precious tree of promise. "In due time," we believe about 1874, the husbandman transplanted it into the open, that it might the better grow, blossom and bear fruit. At this stage He hired other laborers, having had several, we believe, in preparation; but He must needs have one who, despite "the burden and heat of the day," would
    prove faithful to His trust, even to the very end.

    A few years prior to this period He anointed the eyes of a lad of
    17 years that he might behold the errors and dishonoring doctrines
    being promulgated among God's true people. I rejoice to believe
    that later God's smile of favor rested upon him, my dearly beloved
    brother, according to the flesh, and that he was accepted as a
    laborer, not from necessity on God's part, but because this vessel
    lay in his pathway, empty and ready for service. This youth as a
    member of the Congregational church constantly inquired for
    explanations of various obscure passages of Scripture. His Bible
    class teacher, fearing that these unanswerable questions might
    make infidels of the other young men in the class, advised that the
    questions be referred to the pastor of the church, who after
    studying as to how he could harmonize the seemingly
    contradictory statements with which he was confronted and thus
    to prove the Bible to be God's Word by showing its harmony said,
    "Charles, I can help you very easily." And taking a book from his
    library said, "Read this carefully; it will satisfy your mind
    thoroughly on these points." He, very much pleased, took it home
    and began to read, but after reading one page he closed the
    volume and returned to the minister with the remark, "I shall need
    to see the book which precedes this one." "Why, what do you
    mean?" asked the minister. "I mean that this book starts out by
    assuming to be true the very things I desire to have proven to be
    true. I want the book which proves the Bible to be God's word and
    shows harmony in these Scriptures." The minister said, "I would
    advise you to stop investigating these things, for they were never
    intended to be understood." But he was met with the query, "Why
    then, did God place them here? If this is God's word, I believe He
    designed that it should be understood." Finally it was decided best
    to call a meeting of the Church session. Here was more perplexity
    for the youth; he wondering why it should be necessary to call in
    consultation any outsiders; but he consented, and the Session was
    called in a special meeting for the purpose of discussing these
    perplexing questions and endeavoring to reconcile and prove
    reasonable some of the church doctrines. The men constituting
    this "Session" ranked high in professional and literary circles, one
    being a Professor in the Allegheny Theological Seminary. Charlesഊmet with them. At the close of the meeting the list of questions
    were returned to him with the admission that no satisfactory
    solution to these could be found. Later at a church meeting he
    requested a letter of dismissal, stating his reasons for withdrawing
    from church fellowship. About this time he had a very strange
    dream, and although he was not at all superstitious, not a believer
    in signs, dreams, etc., being extremely practical, yet this dream
    strangely impressed him. In his dream he seemed confined in an
    underground passage and stifled as with gases. Upon seeking an
    exit, he started toward a tiny yet the only visible light. He,
    however, found his progress impeded by prostrate bodies,
    seemingly dead, but upon examination he discovered they were
    merely stupefied with these same gases. He awoke, and feeling
    much impressed by this dream sought its significance, until
    finally this thought dawned upon him: Could it be that these were
    all stupefied by the same gases (doctrinal errors) from which he
    was awaking? Could it possibly be that God was awakening him
    first, and that his life's work was to awaken and help release
    others? He determined to seek further knowledge, remembering
    the Lord's words, "Seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be
    opened unto you." From that time onward so devoted was he to
    the Lord's service that he spent all of his leisure time in mission
    work and conducting Bible studies, etc. About 1874 the true mode
    of Baptism and its import was discerned by him, and he and
    father, together with a number of others, including myself,
    symbolized our baptism into Christ by water immersion.

    Later, about 1877, after attending a series of services held by my
    brother, a prominent Pittsburg physician remarked concerning
    him, "I should not be much surprised if he should prove to be the
    youthful David who will yet slay with his pebble of Truth the
    great ecclesiastical Goliath." I feel I can truthfully say ever since
    those years he has been to me an example of self-sacrifice in
    every sense of that word and an inspiration, reiterating by his
    example the Apostle's words, "This one thing I do."

    Sincerely and persistently he has pressed on to accomplish what
    he evidently felt to be his God-given mission. For thirty-three
    years I have watched his toilings up the hill of difficulty, for those
    were not days when warm, glad hearts welcomed him, nor words
    of "God-speed" heard to encourage him, as now; but days of
    scorn, for the Truth's sake, in which it looked foolish indeed to
    stem the tide of popular thought upon these subjects almost alone,
    turning the back upon all that seemed tangible, for that which at
    that time seemed so visionary. True, others came, and for a while rejoiced and assisted, but many becoming weary and relaxed their efforts. Though such discouragements came with "the burden and heat of the day," yet special grace and assistance also came, and the Master whispered, "Be not weary in well doing; in due time thou shalt reap if thou faint not." (1 Pet.ഊ2:12,19; also Heb. 6:10.) Thus sustained and strengthened he continues until, behold! the tree blossoms, and its fragrance is wafted to the ends of earth, and others come "from every nation, kindred, and tongue" to co-labor in promoting the growth of Truth, which is so precious to us now!

    "Paul may plant and Appolos water, but God giveth the increase."
    The Kingdom, the work, the laborers are all His, and to Him we
    delight to give the glory. We come to this convention 2,500
    strong, testifying to the saving power of Him who over 1,900
    years ago left us a legacy of love, with the assurance that if we
    suffer with Him we shall also reign with Him. As the reigning
    time draws very near, dear ones, let us "watch, fight and pray,"
    taking heed that no man take our crown. Thus "we shall come off
    more than conquerors through Him who loved and gave Himself
    for us."

    1907 Convention Reports

  • VM44

    Thanks RR for posting that, it answers
    the question of whether CTR was baptized or


    P.S. Do you have the actual 1907 convention
    report, or has the report been put on a CD-ROM?

  • plmkrzy

    Ok then which one wasn't baptized due to his prior baptizem as a
    whtacamacallit? I thought that was CTR

  • RR

    That would have been Fred Franz!

  • RR

    VM .... I have the original 1907 report. It is not on any Cd Rom. Although some years ago the reports wre reproduced in one large volume. This volume is out of print and hard to find. There are no immediate plans to reprint it.

    Although we're working on producing EVERYTHING on cd rom.

  • Masterji

    You are putting EVERYTHING on cd rom? Wow!
    Is this a personal enterprise?
    Are you going to sell it?


  • You Know
    You Know

    The fact of the matter is that the baptism of Christendom was considered to be valid up until around 1919. Since most of the Bible Students back then were from various denominations they weren't required to get baptised. A similar thing occured in the first century. Those who were baptised by John the Baptizer were not necessarily baptised later, but were instead qualified to be baptised with holy spirit at Pentecost. However, those who were baptised by John and who for whatever reason were not on hand on Pentecost had to be baptised again in order to recieve the holy spirit. 9See Acts 19:1-5) That's why in many respects the events of 1919 and the restoration are very similar to Pentecost, in that it was a turning point as relates to baptism. / You Know

  • RR

    Currently we have the Berean Bible Studies CD Rom, which boast EVERYTHING Russell wrote, even his pre-watchtower writings. However, we're working on putting EVERYTYING on cd Rom. Including those writings published and written by other Bible Students of his day, including some Adventist writings like Nelson Barbour, George Storrs and others.

  • KennyC

    So you mean to tell me that C.T. Russells sister was the one that officiated his baptism, and not a man of spiritual means ?

    A woman ? A woman ????

    Oh, I forgot, Charles was the only man of spiritual means existing in those days so it was necessary to have a woman officiate the baptism.

    After all that bitchin' about his wife "conspiring" to supplant him as the editor of the Watchtower and ultimately, the GB de-incorporating themselves from holding corporate office positions, Mrs. Russell is still considered an apostate by modern JW's ? All she must have wanted to do was correct his spelling and dumb-assed sentence structures, but you know how these "inspired" individuals are: even if they spell stuff wrong they think you should change the dictionary for them.

    Q:How many religious fanatics does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    A: One. He just holds it up and the whole world revolves around him.

    How hypocritical can you be ?

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