Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-12-2012 WT Study (JUNE 15, 2012, pages 14-18)(SHORTLY TAKE PLACE)
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JEHOVAH REVEALS WHAT
“MUST SHORTLY TAKE PLACE”
“A revelation by Jesus
Christ, which God
gave him, to show his
slaves the things
that must shortly take
place.”—REV. 1:1.
HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER?
Which parts of the immense
image symbolize the Anglo-
American World Power?
How does John depict the
relationship between the Anglo-
American World Power and
the United Nations?
How do Daniel and John portray
the end of human rulership?
OPENING COMMENTS
Not understood “ten” toes, not understood 2 arms; yet the WTS depicts the image with 2 arms, one head, 2 legs, 2 feet, ten toes. How many toes shown on page 12 of this issue?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_kZHq3UYOWM/ThXpqleXrHI/AAAAAAAAAMg/tRSNahUhZjc/s1600/daniel2.jpg
http://e-watchman.com/storage/convention_invitation_2011_
Shortly take place = Revelation not Daniel but even that was written 1900 years ago…Did John mean the 2 nd century perhaps?
Paragraph 11
Consider: In
other visions, Daniel mentions specific
numbers—for example, the number of
horns on the heads of various beasts.
Those numbers are significant. However,
when describing the image, Daniel
does not mention the number of toes.
Therefore, the number seems no more
significant than the fact that the image
had multiple arms, hands, fingers,
legs, and feet.
http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=QrYQCsVrGZNT
TEN TOES OF THE PAST
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As the iron section of the symbolic image started off with the Roman Empire and led on to the Anglo-American dual world power, the firmness and strength of the iron would represent the hardness and toughness of their world control and rule. But what of the ten toes in which the symbolic image terminated? This feature showed that at the time of the end of this symbolic image the remnant of the Roman or sixth world power would vie with the Anglo-American or seventh world power and that there would be other independent political governments associated with those competing powers. The number ten being a Biblical number symbolizing earthly completeness, the ten toes picture all such coexisting powers and governments.
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This birth of the Kingdom occurred “in the days of those kings,” not merely the kings pictured by the ten toes but also those pictured by the iron, bronze (copper), silver and gold parts of the image.
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What about the final part of the image, the feet and ten toes of iron and clay? In the Bible the number ten is used to indicate earthly completeness. Thus the ten toes picture all the coexisting political powers and governments during the time of the end of this symbolic image.
*** w69 5/15 p.304 par.8***
These picture all the coexisting powers and governments on earth today, since the number ten is a Biblical number symbolizing earthly completeness What possible significance could the ten toes have?. So the dream image relates to our day indeed! We should keep in mind that this image did not become static with the appearance of the final world power. The image had to keep on developing in order to include the weakening influence of the socialistic, democratic elements against the imperial, dictatorial powers of this world. Ever since 1914 the weakening influence of democracy and socialism has gone forward particularly against that part of the iron feet of the image represented by “the king of the north.” The ten toes of the image picture all the nations, not merely those that have thus far gained admission to the U.N. At this stage comes the dramatic climax of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. The prophet Daniel continues his interpretation; his words have vital meaning for our day:
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This birth of God’s kingdom occurred “in the days of those kings.” That means not merely the kings pictured by the ten toes but also those pictured by the iron, copper, silver and gold parts of the image, since basic remnants of those previous world powers were still in existence in 1914 C.E. So the symbolic image seen in the dream was complete in 1914. Of course, many new nations have come into existence since then, but at that date they were part of the then division of the nations of the world. The ten toes picture all the nations. And so the stone’s hitting and smashing the image pictures nothing less than the destruction of all the kingdoms of the world today by God’s kingdom!
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Tracing the development of the world powers through the image, from head to foot in the stream of time, we see that it begins with Babylon, and progressively goes through Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. The “fourth kingdom,” represented in the legs and feet, began with the Roman Empire. As time progressed, the power of this empire waned and the British Empire ascended, it being really an outgrowth from the old Roman Empire. This was so even though there was a vying with certain remnants of the Roman Empire for the position of world power. (Dan. 7:19, 20) There does not appear to be any prophetic significance to the image’s having ten toes. This is a natural human feature, just as the image has two arms, two legs, and so forth.
*** w85 7/1 p.31 Questions From Readers***
? What is symbolized by “the feet and the toes” of the “immense image” described at Daniel 2:31-45?
This prophecy was inspired by the One “who is a Revealer of secrets,” the Sovereign Lord Jehovah God himself, and reaches its culmination in “the final part of the days,” when the issue of world domination is to be settled once and for all time. (Daniel 2:28) Up until our day, from the start of “the times of the Gentiles” in 607 B.C.E., there has been a succession of world powers, commencing with imperial Babylon and proceeding with Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and the Anglo-American empire. These are represented by the metallic parts of the image.—Luke 21:24, King James Version.
However, with the ending of the Gentile Times in 1914, a conglomeration of different kinds of man-rule has appeared here on the earth. (Matthew 24:3-12) The common man (“the offspring of mankind” made from the dust of the ground) wields greater influence in affairs of government. Socialistic and democratic rulerships have come to the fore, along with other ironlike oppressive forms of government. They are like the “iron mixed with moist clay” that make up the feet and toes of the image.
Various views have been expressed about the ten “toes.” But since “ten” is often used in the Bible to signify completeness as to things on earth, the ten “toes” appear logically to represent the entire global system of rulership at the culmination of the days. It is against the feet and toes of the image that ‘God’s Kingdom comes,’ grinding to powder the final manifestations of man-rule. How happy we can be that the peaceful, prosperous rule of Christ’s Kingdom will then fill the entire earth!—Matthew 6:9, 10; compare Isaiah 11:1, 9.
The further dream of Nebuchadnezzar described in Daniel chapter 4 points also to events following the end of the Gentile Times. At last people must come to “know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it,” that is, to the King, Jesus Christ.—Daniel 4:25; 7:13, 14.
[Footnotes]
See “Your Will Be Done on Earth,” published in 1958 by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., pages 108-27, for a more detailed discussion of the “immense image.”
*** it-1p.1187 (1988) Image***
The mixture of iron and clay in the toes of the great image graphically illustrates the condition due to be manifest in the final expression of political world domination. Clay is elsewhere used metaphorically in the Scriptures to stand for fleshly men, made of the dust of the earth. (Job 10:9; Isa 29:16; Ro 9:20, 21) Daniel’s interpretation thus appears to equate the clay with “the offspring of mankind,” the mixing in of which produces fragility in that which is symbolized by the image’s ten toes. This points to a weakening and a lack of cohesion in the ironlike strength of the final form of world domination by earthly kingdoms. (Da 2:41-43) The common man would wield greater influence in affairs of government. “Ten” being used consistently in the Bible to express completeness (see NUMBER, NUMERAL), the ten toes apparently represent the entire global system of rulership at the time when God’s Kingdom is established and takes action against the worldly powers.—Compare Re 17:12-14.
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Appropriately, the number “ten ” as used in the Bible signifies completeness as to earthly things. So political human rule in its entirety, unitedly opposed to divine sovereignty during the time of the end, is what the ‘ten toes’ of the image would logically represent.
*** 1999 Daniel Prophecy dp chap. 4 p. 59 par. 27 ***
At the dawn of the 20th century, the British Empire ruled over every fourth person on earth. Other European empires controlled millions more. But World War I resulted in the emergence of groups of nations in place of empires. After World War II, this trend accelerated. As nationalism developed further, the number of nations in the world grew dramatically. The ten toes of the image represent all such coexisting powers and governments, for in the Bible the number ten at times signifies earthly completeness.—Compare Exodus 34:28; Matthew 25:1; Revelation 2:10.
*** 1999 Daniel Prophecy dp chap. 4 p. 61 par. 34 ***
The birth of the Kingdom took place “in the days of those kings.” (Daniel 2:44) These were not only the kings pictured by the ten toes of the image but also those symbolized by its iron, copper, silver, and gold parts. Although the Babylonian, Persian, Grecian, and Roman empires had passed away as world powers, their remnants still existed in 1914. The Turkish Ottoman Empire then occupied the territory of Babylonia, and national governments were functioning in Persia (Iran) and Greece and Rome, Italy.
START OF ARTICLE
1, 2. (a) The prophecies of Daniel and John allow us to do
what? (b) What do the first six heads of the wild beast represent?
THE prophecies of Daniel and John correspond
in ways that allow us to understand the meaning
of many present and future world events.
What can we learn by comparing John’s vision of the
wild beast, Daniel’s account of the fearsome beast
that had ten horns, and Daniel’s interpretation of
the immense image? And what should a clear understanding
of those prophecies move us to do?
COMMENTS
The WTS makes the assertion that Daniel and John correspond…have other people before the WTS made that assertion? Were they led by God, was the WTS led by God or copying these people?
Has the WTS ever claimed to have a clear understanding about prophecy that has not had to be adjusted? Is that clear then?
2 Let us address John’s vision of the wild beast.
(Rev., chap. 13) As we saw in the preceding article,
the first six heads of the beast represent Egypt,
Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome.
All of those expressed hatred for the seed of the
woman. (Gen. 3:15) Rome, the sixth head, remained
a dominant political force for centuries after John
wrote down his vision. Eventually, the seventh head
would take the place of Rome. Which political world
power did that prove to be, and how would it treat
the seed of the woman?
COMMENTS
Seed of the woman – do they mean Jesus or anointed jws?
BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES RISE TO POWER
3. What does the frightening ten-horned beast represent,
and what do the ten horns picture?
3 We can identify the seventh head of the wild
beast of Revelation chapter 13 by comparing John’s
vision with Daniel’s vision of the frightening ten horned
beast.* (Read Daniel 7:7, 8, 23, 24.) The beast
that Daniel saw represented the Roman World Power.
(See the chart on pages 12-13.) In the fifth century
C.E., the Roman Empire began to fragment. The
ten horns sprouting from the head of
that fearsome beast represent kingdoms
that grew out of that empire.
*In the Bible, the number ten often symbolizes a complete group
—in this case, all the kingdoms that grew from the Roman Empire.
COMMENTS
We can identify = really only a subset of anointed jws but not as individuals
*** w752/15p.108***
Nor does such anointing of itself bring exceptional understanding of God’s Word , as can be seen by the way the apostle Paul found it necessary to write certain anointed Christians in his day. (1 Cor. 3:1-3; Heb. 5:11-14)
4, 5. (a) What did the small horn do? (b) What
is the identity of the seventh head of the wild
beast?
4 Four of the horns, or kingdoms, that
sprouted from the head of the ferocious
beast receive special mention. Three are
plucked out by another horn, “a small
one.” This was fulfilled when Britain, a
former outpost of the Roman Empire,
grew to prominence. Until the 17th century,
Britain was a relatively insignificant
power. Three other regions of the
old Roman Empire—Spain, the Netherlands,
and France—were far more influential.
Britain plucked those powers
out one by one, removing them from
their positions of prestige. By the mid-
18th century, Britain was on its way
to become the dominant power on the
world scene. But it had not yet become
the seventh head of the wild beast.
COMMENTS
Proof???? Only assertions….where are the scriptures? How could a jw scripturally prove this to a non-jw?
Is this what CT Russell thought? Or Rutherford?
Studies in the Scriptures Volume 3 - "Thy Kingdom Come"
The Prophet had said that three horns would be plucked up, or rooted out, to make room or prepare the way for this peculiar power or "horn." And so we find it: Constantine built Constantinople, and removed his capital thither; this, though favorable to Papacy's development in the seat of the Caesars , was unfavorable to the empire; and soon it was found expedient to divide the empire, and Italy was thenceforth
C77
known as the Western Empire, whose seat or capital was at Ravenna. This was one of the "horns": it fell, A.D. 476, at the hands of the Heruli, another of the horns, which established itself on its ruins. Next came the Ostrogothic kingdom, another "horn," overthrowing the Heruli and establishing itself as ruler of Italy, A.D. 489. And, as we have just seen, it was during the power of this "horn" (the third to be rooted out to make way for the papal horn) that Justinian acknowledged the papal supremacy; and it was by his orders, and by his general and his army, that it was plucked up. And, as we have seen, its plucking up was necessary to the advancement of Papacy to power, as a peculiar blending of political and religious power--a peculiar "horn," differing from its fellows. Indeed, it seems not improbable that the Papacy was secretly favorable to the fall of each of these "horns" or powers, hoping thus to open the way to its own exaltation, just as it finally resulted.
With the overthrow of the Ostrogoths, the Roman emperor was recognized for some time as the ruler of Italy, and was represented by Exarchs; but since these had their capital at Ravenna, and not at Rome, and since they had come to recognize the Papacy in the manner shown, it follows that from A.D. 539 Papacy was recognized as the chief authority in the city of Rome; and that from that date (when it was "set up") it began to grow and thrive as a "horn" or power among the other "horns" or powers, representing the formerly united power of Rome. The fact of the greatly disturbed condition of Italy, and especially of Rome, about this period, subject to the pillage of invaders from the North, as well as to heavy taxes by whichever master was nearest at the time, helped to break up political loyalty to the imperial power at Constantinople; so that the church-rulers, always with them, speaking the same language, and sharing their advantages and losses, were readily accepted
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/revelation-daniel-prophetic-interpretation.php
5 Though Britain gained dominance,
colonies in North America broke away.
Even so, the United States was allowed
to grow mighty, protected by British naval
power. By the time the Lord’s day began
in 1914, Britain had built the largest
empire in history and the United States
had become the greatest industrial power
on earth.* During World War I, the
United States forged a special partnership
with Britain. The seventh head of
the beast had now emerged as the
Anglo-American World Power. How did
this head treat the seed of the woman?
*Although the components of the dual world
power have existed since the 18th century, John describes
it as it would appear at the start of the Lord’s
day. In fact, the fulfillment of the visions recorded in
Revelation takes place during “the Lord’s day.” (Rev.
1:10) It was not until World War I that the seventh
head began operating as a united world power.
COMMENTS
While the WTS makes a simple history summation, where is the connection with the scriptures, what scriptures?
6. How has the seventh head treated God’s
people?
6 Shortly after the start of the Lord’s
day, the seventh head launched an attack
on God’s people—the remaining
ones of Christ’s brothers on earth. (Matt.
25:40) Jesus indicated that during his
presence, a remnant of the seed would
be active on earth. (Matt. 24:45-47; Gal.
3:26-29) The Anglo-American World
Power waged war with those holy ones.
(Rev. 13:3, 7) During World War I, it oppressed
God’s people, banned some of
their publications, and threw representatives
of the faithful slave class into
prison. The seventh head of the wild
beast as much as killed the preaching
work for a period of time. Jehovah foresaw
this dramatic event and revealed it
to John. God also told John that the secondary
part of the seed would be revived
to increased spiritual activity. (Rev. 11:3,
7-11) The history of Jehovah’s modern-day
servants confirms that those events
took place.
COMMENTS
I wonder how the WTS will or even will make the connection with these events they assert and make the connection to the WTS, “Christ’s brothers on earth,” “holy ones,” “faithful slave class,” etc. Where does it say the members of the WTS are these groups?
Oppressed = who and how
THE ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWER
AND THE FEET OF IRON AND CLAY
7. What is the relationship between the seventh
head of the wild beast and the immense
image?
7 What is the relationship between
the seventh head of the wild beast
and the immense image? Britain—and
by extension, the United States—grew
out of the Roman Empire. What,
though, about the feet of the image?
They are described as an amalgam of
iron and clay. (Read Daniel 2:41-43.)
This description coincides with the
time when the seventh head—the Anglo-
American World Power—would come to
prominence. Just as an iron structure
mixed with clay is weaker than solid
iron, so too the Anglo-American World
Power is weaker than the power from
which it emerged. How?
COMMENTS
More assertions but no connection to the scriptures? Have other groups made different assertions? How could Russell make assertions when the WTS said the UK and US did not become the “Anglo-American” power in his time?
By making such weak assertions the WTS leaves itself open for “adjustments” and “clarifications.”
8, 9. (a) How did the seventh world power
manifest ironlike strength? (b) What does the
clay in the feet of the image represent?
8 At times, the seventh head of the
beast has displayed ironlike characteristics.
For example, it proved its power
by winning World War I. During World
War II, the ironlike power of the seventh
head was also evident.* After that war,
the seventh head at times still displayed
ironlike characteristics. However, from
early on, that iron has been mixed with
clay.
*Daniel foresaw the terrible destruction this king
would cause during that war, writing: “In a wonderful
[awful] way he will cause ruin.” (Dan. 8:24) For
example, the United States caused terrible ruin on
an unprecedented scale when it dropped two atomic
devices on an enemy of the dual world power.
COMMENTS
Were you convinced by the WTS assertions when you were a jw or if you are still a jw? I always tuned it out and remember that Jesus said his followers would be identified by the love they showed, not prophecy explanations.
9 Jehovah’s servants have long sought
to understand the symbolic meaning of
the feet of the image. Daniel 2:41 describes
the mixture of iron and clay
as one “kingdom,” not many. The clay,
therefore, represents elements within
the sphere of influence of the Anglo-
American World Power, elements that
make it weaker than the solid iron of the
Roman Empire. The clay is referred to as
“the offspring of mankind,” or the common
people. (Dan. 2:43) In the Anglo-
American World Power, people have risen
up to claim their rights through civil
rights campaigns, labor unions, and
independence movements. The common
people undermine the ability of
the Anglo-American World Power to
act with ironlike strength. Also, opposing
ideologies and close election results
that do not end up in a clear majority
have weakened the power base of even
popular leaders, so that they have no
clear mandate to implement their policies.
Daniel foretold: “The kingdom will
partly prove to be strong and will partly
prove to be fragile.”—Dan. 2:42; 2 Tim. 3:
1-3.
COMMENTS
But the WTS has all along made strong assertions who they the feet are (see opening comments). You can see that the WTS feels that an organization that has complete control over their members is a good one, not even the bible is the foundation but their interpretation of it, even when wrong.
10, 11. (a) What is the future of “the feet”?
(b)What can we conclude about the number of
toes?
10 In the 21st century, Britain and the
United States have continued their special
partnership, often acting together
in world affairs. The prophecies about
the immense image and the wild beast
confirm that the Anglo-American World
Power will not be replaced by some future
world power. This last world power
may be weaker than that represented by
the legs of iron, but it will not disintegrate
on its own.
COMMENTS
ASSERTIONS BUT NO PROOF, JUST OPINION
Can you imagine non-jw being convinced
The WESAYO Corporation strikes again.
11 Does the number of toes of the image
have special meaning? Consider: In
other visions, Daniel mentions specific
numbers—for example, the number of
horns on the heads of various beasts.
Those numbers are significant. However,
when describing the image, Daniel
does not mention the number of toes.
Therefore, the number seems no more
significant than the fact that the image
had multiple arms, hands, fingers,
legs, and feet. Daniel does specifically
mention that the toes would be made of
iron and clay. From his description, we
can conclude that the Anglo-American
World Power is the one that will be dominating
when the “stone” representing
God’s Kingdom hits the feet of the image.—
Dan. 2:45.
COMMENTS
See Opening Comments
http://hownow.brownpau.com/files/lost-four-toes.jpg
If the Anglo-American WP is dominating what about the King of the North?
ANGLO-AMERICA AND
THE TWO-HORNED WILD BEAST
12, 13. The two-horned wild beast represents
what, and what does it do?
12 Though the Anglo-American
World Power is a mixture of iron and
clay, the visions that Jesus gave to John
show that this power would continue
to play a key role during the last days.
How so? John saw a vision of a two horned wild
beast that spoke like a dragon.
What does this strange beast represent?
It has two horns, so it is a dual
power. John is again seeing the Anglo-
American World Power but in a special
role.—Read Revelation 13:11-15.
COMMENTS
So while the WTS has this scripture designated to be read, is there anything that proves the WTS assertion? 2 horns but not ten toes?
13 This wild beast promotes the making
of an image of the wild beast. John
wrote that the image of the beast would
appear, disappear, and then rise again.
That is exactly what happened to an organization
promoted by Britain and the
United States, one that was intended to
unite and represent the world’s kingdoms.
*This organization appeared after
World War I and was known as the
League of Nations. It disappeared with
the onset of World War II. During that
war, God’s people declared that according
to the prophecy in Revelation, the
image of the wild beast would ascend
again. And rise it did—as the United Nations.—
Rev. 17:8.
*See Revelation—Its Grand Climax at Hand! pages
240, 241, 253.
COMMENTS
The UN makes a dramatic return in WT doctrine and definition.
“Image of the beast” organization promoted by UK and US.
WW1 = League of Nations
Rose again as the United Nations per WTS (1942 first organized not 1945)
The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt was first used in the Declaration by United Nations of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.
http://www.un.org/en/aboutun/history/
14. In what sense is the image of the wild beast
“an eighth king”?
14 John described the image of the
beast as “an eighth king.” In what sense?
It is not depicted as an eighth head
on the original wild beast. It is only an
image of that beast. Any power it has
comes from its member nations, especially
from its key backer, the Anglo-
American World Power. (Rev. 17:10, 11)
But it does receive authority to act as
a king to carry out a specific task, one
that triggers a chain of events that will
change history.
COMMENTS
More assertions and no proof.
THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST
DEVOURS THE HARLOT
15, 16. The harlot symbolizes what, and what
has happened to her support?
15 According to John, upon a scarlet colored
wild beast—the image of the
wild beast—rides a symbolic harlot,
dominating it. She bears the name “Babylon
the Great.” (Rev. 17:1-6) This harlot
fittingly stands for all false religion, foremost
of which are the churches of Christendom.
Religious organizations have
given their blessing to the image of the
beast and have tried to exert influence
over it.
COMMENTS
Babylon the Great, the Papacy (Roman Catholic Church) per Russell
All false religions = all religions but the WTS/jws, and the WTS considers “so-called” Christians the worst. The WTS lumps in all of them even the Amish.
16 However, during the Lord’s day,
Babylon the Great has seen the waters,
the people who support her, dry
up dramatically. (Rev. 16:12; 17:15) For
example, when the image of the beast
first appeared, the churches of Christendom—
an influential part of Babylon the
Great—dominated the Western world.
Today, the churches and their ministers
have lost the respect and support
of the masses. In fact, many people believe
that religion contributes to or causes
conflict. An increasingly vocal and
militant group of Western intellectuals
is calling for the end of religion’s influence
on society.
COMMENTS
Has the WTS said much about the “drying up” waters? Not since 1993. What about the Muslims increase, the Mormons, and other independent Christian religions?
17. What will soon happen to false religion,
and why?
17 False religion, however, will not
just fade away. The harlot will remain a
potent force, attempting to bend kings
to her will until God plants an idea
in the hearts of those in power. (Read
Revelation 17:16, 17.) Soon Jehovah will
cause the political elements of Satan’s
system, as represented by the United
Nations, to attack false religion. They
will destroy her influence and devastate
her riches. Such an event may have
seemed unlikely just decades ago. Today,
the harlot teeters on the back of the
scarlet-colored beast. Even so, she will
not slip slowly from her seat. Her tumble
will be sudden and violent.—Rev. 18:
7, 8, 15-19.
COMMENTS
But the WTS, “false” religion will not fade away. Jws take note, that the so-called decrease is not a sign. BTG will still be strong per the WTS.
Hasn’t the WTS ridden the scarlet-colored beast? Yes.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php
Watchtower Still Has 2 NGOs!
Paul Gillies (Watchtower) is a NGO himself and has registered for several governmental conferences such as the (OSCE Conference on Anti- Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance). Please click on the pdf link provided and look at the top on page 1 and bottom of page 3.
The top of page 1 reads:
List of NGOs registered for the OSCE Conference on Anti-Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance.
and then we find:
Look on page 3 for:
The European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses
Gillies, Paul (Consejero)
Gillet, Marcel (Consejero)
Look on page 7 to see:
Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania (845-306-0711)
ALLEN, Gregory
http://osce.usmission.gov/Cordoba/Cordoba_NGOs.pdf local file
Does the page below display a (neutral) stand as to government affairs? Does getting involved with the great harlot in this manner look like we are grasping straws or splitting hairs? I don't think so! Yet, this is exactly the organization that Paul Gillies and the European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses, as well as Gregory Allen of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania have been involved with! --see below:
THE BEASTS COME TO THEIR END
18. (a) What will the wild beast do, and with
what outcome? (b) Daniel 2:44 refers to God’s
Kingdom as destroying which kingdoms? (See
box on page 17.)
WHO MAKE UP “ALL THESE KINGDOMS”?
The prophecy at Daniel 2:44
states that God’s Kingdom “will
crush and put an end to all these
kingdoms.” That prophecy refers
only to the kingdoms pictured by
the various parts of the image.
What about all other human
governments? The parallel prophecy
in Revelation reveals the larger
picture. It shows that “the
kings of the entire inhabited
earth” will be gathered against
Jehovah on “the great day of God
the Almighty.” (Rev. 16:14; 19:19-
21) Hence, not only the kingdoms
of the image but also all other
human governments will be destroyed
at Armageddon.
COMMENTS
Has the WTS proved these are parallel?
Not just governments but all non-jws, 7 billion men, women, and children will die forever.
18 After false religion is destroyed, the
wild beast, Satan’s earthly political setup,
will be goaded into an attack on
God’s Kingdom. Unable to reach into
heaven, the kings of the earth will vent
their rage on those on earth who support
God’s Kingdom. The result is inevitable.
(Rev. 16:13-16; 17:12-14) Daniel
describes one aspect of the final battle.
(Read Daniel 2:44.) The wild beast mentioned
at Revelation 13:1, its image, and
the two-horned wild beast will be destroyed.
COMMENTS
Proof, none; but many assertions.
19. What confidence can we have, and it is
now time to do what?
19 We are living in the days of the seventh
head. No more heads will appear
on this beast before it is annihilated. The
Anglo-American World Power will be
the dominant world power when false
religion is eradicated. The prophecies
of Daniel and John have been fulfilled
to the smallest detail. We can be confident
that the destruction of false religion
and the battle of Armageddon will
soon come. God has revealed these details
in advance. Will we pay attention
to the prophetic warnings? (2 Pet. 1:19)
Now is the time to take sides with Jehovah
and to support his Kingdom.—Rev.
14:6, 7.
COMMENTS
Are we living in the day of the seventh head. The WTS also said the end was coming in 1914, 1925, 1975, VERY SOON NOW….can jws “be confident ….will soon come”? As the WTS has said recently, to obey them even if they are wrong is obeying God.
CLOSING COMMENTS
So when the WTS makes assertions that do not come true in the name of God, they aren’t false prophets?
Next week, WHY PUT JEHOVAH’S SERVICE FIRST?
And in case you don’t know what that is from reading the Bible, the WTS will tell you because they speak for God.
Love, Blondie
