Blondie's Comments You Won't Hear at the 07-22-2012 WT Study (TIMES & SEASONS)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-22-2012 WT Study (MAY 15, 2012, pages 17-21)(TIMES/SEASONS) (a little late)

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    TRUST IN JEHOVAH THE GOD OF “TIMES

    AND SEASONS”

    “He is changing times and seasons, removing

    kings and setting up kings.”—DAN. 2:21.

    HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER?

    How do creation and fulfilled

    prophecy show that Jehovah is

    the Great Timekeeper?

    Appreciating that Jehovah is the

    God of “times and seasons”

    moves us to do what?

    Why is Jehovah’s timetable not

    controlled by world events and

    human plans?

    OPENING COMMENTS

    Since 1876 Charles Taze Russell and later in 1879 and 1884 through the Watchtower Society, Times and Seasons was the motivating foundation of their members and still today.

    1874 Beginning of Christ’s Presence

    1878 Beginning of Christ’s Reign

    Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D....and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol.4, p.621, 1897)

    1881 Cutoff of heavenly calling (thought it was 1935?)

    "As in the type that date - three and a half years after the death of Christ - marked the end of all special favor to the Jew and the beginning of favor to the Gentiles, so we recognize A.D. 1881 as marking the close of the 'high calling,' or invitation to the blessing peculiar to this age - to become joint-heirs with Christ and partakers of the divine nature." (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 235)

    1914 Ascent to heaven of the anointed and the “end”

    "Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:14) which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced. The gathering of the armies is plainly visible from the standpoint of God's word." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, The Time Is At Hand, 1889 Ed., p. 101. The 1915 Edition of this texts changed "A.D. 1914" to read 'A.D. 1915')

    But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Zion's Watchtower, Can It Be Delayed until 1914? C. T. Russell July 15, 1894, Also in Watchtower Reprints, l894 p. 1677)

    1915 Adjustment of ascent and 1914

    "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1915. (The Time Is At Hand, 1915 edition, p. 99)

    1915 "Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced." (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 101)

    1918

    Also, in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by million, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of Christianity. (The Finished Mystery, 1917 edition, p. 485)

    1920

    As the fleshly-minded apostates from Christianity, siding with the radicals and revolutionaries, will rejoice at the inheritance of desolation that will be Christendom's after 1918, so will God do to the successful revolutionary movement; it shall be utterly desolated, "even all of it." Not one vestige of it shall survive the ravages of world-wide all embracing anarchy, in the fall of 1920. (Rev. II: 7-13) (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 542, [The 1926 ed. reads: "in the end of the time of trouble."])

    1925

    'There will be no slip-up...Abraham should enter upon the actual possession of his promised inheritance in the year 1925' (Watchtower Oct. 15, 1917, p. 6157)

    "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection." (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89)

    The period must end in 1925. The type ending, the antitype must begin; and therefore 1925 is definitely fixed in the scriptures. every thinking person can see that a great climax is at hand. The Scriptures clearly indicate that the climax is the fall of Satan's empire and the full establishment of the Messianic kingdom. This climax being reached by 1925, and that marking the beginning of the fulfillment of the long promised blessings of life to the people, millions now living on earth will be living then and those who obey the righteous laws of the new arrangement will live forever. Therefore it can be confidently said at this time that millions now living will never die." (Golden Age, Jan. 4, 1922, p. 217)

    1935

    1940’s

    1957

    1975

    1984

    1994

    SOON VERY SOON NOW

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php

    START OF ARTICLE

    1, 2. What shows that Jehovah fully understands time?

    JEHOVAH GOD provided the means to measure

    time long before he created man. On the fourth

    creative day, God said: “Let luminaries come to

    be in the expanse of the heavens to make a division

    between the day and the night; and they must serve

    as signs and for seasons and for days and years.”

    (Gen. 1:14, 19, 26) In harmony with Jehovah’s will,

    that is, of course, what took place.

    COMMENTS

    The WTS suggests then that God created time for the angels since there were no humans yet….is their day and night in heaven?

    2 Until now, however, scientists have debated the

    nature of time. “Time is one of the world’s deepest

    mysteries,” states one encyclopedia. “No one can say

    exactly what it is.” Yet, Jehovah fully understands

    time. After all, he is “the Creator of the heavens, . . .

    the Former of the earth and the Maker of it.” Jehovah

    is also “the One telling from the beginning the finale,

    and from long ago the things that have not been

    done.” (Isa. 45:18; 46:10) With a view to strengthening

    our faith in him and in his Word, the Bible, let us

    consider how creation and fulfilled prophecy show

    that Jehovah is the Great Timekeeper.

    COMMENTS

    Which encyclopedia? World Book 1994, why not tell the reader and be professional?

    World Book Encyclopedia: Measuring Time
    time is one of the world's deepest mysteries. No one can say exactly what it is. Yet, the ability to measure time makes our way of life possible.

    CREATION INSPIRES FAITH IN

    THE GREAT TIMEKEEPER

    3. How is precise timing manifested in the physical world?

    3 In the physical world, precise timing can be

    seen on a microscopic as well as on a macroscopic

    scale. Atoms vibrate at consistent rates. International

    time-standard clocks regulated by atomic vibrations

    are accurate to 1 second in 80 million years.

    The movement of planets and stars is also precisely

    timed. Their predictable positions in the sky have

    been used to mark the seasons and to navigate. Jehovah—

    the Maker of these reliable “timepieces”—is

    indeed “vigorous in power” and deserves

    our praise.—Read Isaiah 40:26.

    COMMENTS

    God may be precise but are jws…least punctual are the elders. I remember a CO who went over time 45 minutes for each of his talks. And Fred Franz never ended his talks on time.

    So did Adam and Eve automatically know how to use the “timepieces” as “perfect” humans or were they taught?

    4. How does timing in the biological realm

    show God’s wisdom?

    4 Precise timing can be observed in

    the world of biology. The life cycles of

    many plants and animals are regulated

    by internal clocks. Many birds instinctively

    know when to begin their migration.

    (Jer. 8:7) Humans too have internal

    clocks, usually governed by the 24-hour

    cycle of day and night. After a traveler

    crosses several time zones by airplane,

    it may take days for his body to

    reset these clocks. Truly, the many examples

    of timing manifest in creation

    demonstrate the power and wisdom of

    the God of “times and seasons.” (Read

    Psalm 104:24.) Yes, the Great Timekeeper

    is all-wise and all-powerful. We can

    have faith that he is able to accomplish

    what he wills!

    COMMENTS

    So are the WT writers scientists or what are their sources? Or did they learn them from reading the Awakes which brings me back to are the Awake writers scientists or where do the get this information? How many rank-and-file jws understand this or even care?

    I remember going d2d with an arrogant brother who thought because he had looked at the COVER of an Awake he was offering that he was qualified to discuss it and correct a professor in that field that we met from door to door…I was so embarrassed. I made a point never to go with Brother “Scientist” again.

    PROPHECIES FULFILLED

    ON TIME INSPIRE FAITH

    5. (a) Only in what way can we know about

    mankind’s future? (b)Why can Jehovah foretell

    events and their timing?

    5 The book of creation teaches us

    much about Jehovah’s “invisible qualities,”

    but it leaves unanswered such important

    questions as, What does the future

    hold for mankind? (Rom. 1:20) For

    the answer, we must turn to what God

    has revealed in the pages of his Word,

    the Bible. When we examine it, we find

    prophecies that have always been fulfilled

    right on time! Jehovah can reveal

    what is yet to occur because he can

    foresee the future accurately. Moreover,

    what the Scriptures foretell happens on

    time because Jehovah God can cause

    events to take place according to his purpose

    and timetable.

    COMMENTS

    Unanswered questions

    God tells humans in the bible

    But

    The WTS/FDS/GB is only qualified to explain the bible

    So then we can conclude that God and the bible had nothing to do with the 1975 WTS information because it did not come on time, or the WTS misinterpreted what God was saying?

    6. What shows that Jehovah wants us to understand

    the fulfillment of Bible prophecies?

    6 Jehovah wants his worshippers to

    understand Scriptural prophecies and

    benefit from them. Although God is not

    limited by our perception of time, we

    can relate to the terms he uses when he

    foretells that an event will occur at a specific

    time. (Read Psalm 90:4.) For example,

    the book of Revelation refers to “the

    four angels” who “have been prepared

    for the hour and day and month and

    year”—units of time we can understand.

    (Rev. 9:14, 15) Seeing how prophecies

    were fulfilled at specified times should

    inspire faith in the God of “times and

    seasons” and in his Word. Let us consider

    a few examples.

    COMMENTS

    So how did God help “his worshippers” understand? The fact that the WTS did not understand 1874, 1878, 1881, 1914, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, and the generation of 1914 that ended in 1984 (70 year generation) and 1994 (80 year generation) mean they are not Jehovah’s worshippers?

    *****************

    7. How does the fulfillment of Jeremiah’s

    prophecy regarding Jerusalem and Judah show

    that Jehovah is the Great Timekeeper?

    7 First, let us look back to the seventh

    century B.C.E. “In the fourth year of Jehoiakim the

    son of Josiah, the king of Judah,”

    the word of the Great Timekeeper

    “occurred to Jeremiah concerning all

    the people of Judah.” (Jer. 25:1) Jehovah

    foretold the devastation of Jerusalem

    and the deportation of the Jews from

    the land of Judah to Babylon. There they

    would “serve the king of Babylon seventy

    years.” Babylonian armies destroyed

    Jerusalem in 607 B.C.E., and Jews from

    Judah were indeed deported to Babylon.

    But what was to happen at the end of

    70 years? Jeremiah prophesied: “This is

    what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with

    the fulfilling of seventy years at Babylon

    I shall turn my attention to you

    people, and I will establish toward you

    my good word in bringing you back to

    this place.’ ” (Jer. 25:11, 12; 29:10) This

    prophecy was fulfilled right on time—in

    537 B.C.E. after the Medes and Persians

    freed the Jews from Babylon.

    COMMENTS

    Great Timekeeper

    ***607 (587) to 537 (1914 (1934?)

    70 years = ?

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-70-years.php

    Right on time---so did Israelites see it by reading the scriptures?

    8, 9. How do Daniel’s prophecies concerning the coming of the Messiah and the establishment of the heavenly Kingdom show that Jehovah

    is the God of “times and seasons”?

    8 Consider another prophecy involving God’s

    people of ancient times. About

    two years before the Jews left Babylon,

    God foretold through the prophet Daniel

    that the Messiah would appear 483

    years after the order to rebuild Jerusalem

    was given. The Medo-Persian king gave

    that order in 455 B.C.E. Exactly 483 years

    later—in 29 C.E.—Jesus of Nazareth was

    anointed by holy spirit at his baptism

    and thus became the Messiah.*—Neh. 2:

    1, 5-8; Dan. 9:24, 25; Luke 3:1, 2, 21, 22.

    COMMENTS

    483 YEARS

    455 BCE????

    29 CE???

    * See Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy! pages 186-

    195.

    Can the average or even long-time jw explain 607 to 1914 let alone how to prove 29 c.e. was the right year. I know, 40 years around jws that stumbled and “believed” without “understanding.”

    And they bet their life and the lives of the children on that ignorance.

    9 Now take note of what the Scriptures

    foretold regarding the Kingdom.

    Bible prophecy indicated that the Messianic

    Kingdom would be established in

    heaven in 1914. In part, the Bible did so

    by giving “the sign” of Jesus’ presence,

    pointing to the time when Satan would

    be cast out of heaven, which would result

    in great woe for the earth. (Matt.

    24:3-14; Rev. 12:9, 12) Moreover, Bible

    prophecy pointed to the exact time

    —1914—when “the appointed times of

    the nations [would be] fulfilled” and

    Kingdom rule would begin in heaven.

    —Luke 21:24; Dan. 4:10-17.*

    COMMENTS

    ***Jesus become king in 1878 or 1914????

    *** Proclaimers Book (1993) c hap. 28 p. 632 Testing and Sifting From Within ***

    Based on the premise that events of the first century might find parallels in related events later, they also concluded that if Jesus’ baptism and anointing in the autumn of 29 C.E. paralleled the beginning of an invisible presence in 1874, then his riding into Jerusalem as King in the spring of 33 C.E. would point to the spring of 1878 as the time when he would assume his power as heavenly King.

    * See Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy! pages

    94-97.

    10. What future events are sure to happen on time?

    10 What lies ahead is the “great tribulation”

    foretold by Jesus. It will be followed by his Thousand Year Reign.

    There can be no doubt that these things

    will come to pass right on schedule.

    When Jesus walked the earth, Jehovah

    had already set the “day and hour” for

    these events to occur.—Matt. 24:21, 36;

    Rev. 20:6.

    COMMENTS

    Unsupported statement that GT lies ahead (20, 30, 200, 300 years?) Said GT would begin in 1975, 37 years ago, are we in the midst of the GT or has it ended?

    God set the day and the hour when Jesus was on earth….not the year?

    Reminds me of a sister I told that the bible said that we did not know the day and the hour, “But we know the year (1975)” she countered. Is that what Matthew 24:36 means?

    ‘BUY OUT THE OPPORTUNE TIME’

    11. Knowing that we are living in the time of

    the end should have what effect on us?

    11 How should recognizing that Kingdom

    rule has begun and that we are

    living in “the time of the end” affect

    us? (Dan. 12:4) Many see the worsening

    world conditions yet fail to acknowledge

    that these developments fulfill Bible

    prophecy regarding the last days. They

    may expect this system to fall apart one

    day or may believe that somehow human

    efforts will achieve “peace and security.”

    (1 Thess. 5:3) But what about us?

    If we recognize that we are living deep

    in the last days of Satan’s world, should

    we not endeavor to use the remaining

    time to serve the God of “times and

    seasons” and help others come to know

    him? (2 Tim. 3:1) We ought to make wise

    decisions about how we use our time.

    Read Ephesians 5:15-17.

    COMMENTS

    Time of the end in 1914….destruction to come per CT Russell (see opening comments).

    Satan’s world = all non-jws, 7 plus billion, men, women and children

    So are jws spending effective time even now, do they prepare what to say, read the bible, their own publications, return and talk to “interested” people, conduct bible studies, week day evenings, Saturday/Sunday afternoons? What would you do it the tornado siren was not working would they go door to door?

    PICTURE: Older man from the past (Daniel? Remember no paintings/pictures of Daniel) with scrolls

    Daniel had faith in the fulfillment of God-given prophecy..did he know the year?

    12. What can we learn from Jesus’ statement

    regarding Noah’s day?

    12 “Buying out the opportune time”

    is not easy in a world full of distractions.

    “Just as the days of Noah were,”

    warned Jesus, “so the presence of the

    Son of man will be.” How were the

    days of Noah? It had been foretold that

    the world of that time would come to

    an end. At that time, wicked humans

    would drown in the waters of a global

    deluge. As “a preacher of righteousness,”

    Noah faithfully declared God’s

    message to the people of his day. (Matt.

    24:37; 2 Pet. 2:5) But they were “eating

    and drinking, men marrying and women

    being given in marriage, . . . and they

    took no note until the flood came and

    swept them all away.” Jesus therefore

    warned his followers: “Prove yourselves

    ready, because at an hour that you do

    not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.”

    (Matt. 24:38, 39, 44) We must prove

    to be like Noah, not like the people of

    his day. What will help us to keep ourselves

    ready?

    COMMENTS

    What does the WTS consider a “distraction”?

    120 years before the end, 133 years now for the WTS

    Do you think Noah went d2d with a bible and Noah publications?

    Do jws think they will not know when the end is, 1914, 1925, 1975, 1984, 1994, even now each disaster has jws running around saying the sky is falling.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2qy2-p_umVc/TdnNSMosHgI/AAAAAAAAAC8/z9pGQmdh3qo

    13, 14. Remembering what about Jehovah will

    help us to serve him faithfully while we await

    the coming of the Son of man?

    13 Although the Son of man is coming

    at an hour we do not think to be

    it, we need to remember that Jehovah is

    the Great Timekeeper. His timetable is

    not controlled by world events and human

    plans. Jehovah regulates the timing

    and outcome of matters to accomplish

    his will. (Read Daniel 2:21.) In fact,

    Proverbs 21:1 tells us: “A king’s heart is

    as streams of water in the hand of Jehovah.

    Everywhere that he delights to, he

    turns it.”

    COMMENTS

    So did God regulate the 1975 timing?

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php

    (do you have a favorite WT quote?)

    14 Jehovah can influence events in order

    to accomplish his purpose and fulfill

    it on time. Many of the momentous

    changes in the world have been fulfilling

    prophecy, particularly in regard to

    the global preaching of the good news

    of God’s Kingdom. Think about the collapse

    of the Soviet Union and its consequences.

    Few would have thought that

    such enormous political changes could

    happen so quickly. As a result of these

    changes, however, the good news is now

    being preached throughout many lands

    where our work was previously banned.

    By all means, then, let us buy out the opportune

    time to serve the God of “times

    and seasons” faithfully.

    COMMENTS

    Have the disasters of today been worse than those of the past?

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/last-days.php

    Collapse of the Soviet Union – the so-called King of the North per the WTS, did the WTS teach that the KON would collapse?

    But how many countries is little WTS preaching being done, Islamic countries, China, India….what does the future hold for them if they don’t hear the WTS message? (Notice that the WTS bases this all on their interpretation of Matthew 10:23)

    *** w10 9/15 p.10 par.12***

    We recognize that the end could come at any time; Jehovah’s timing is not contingent on our giving a personal witness to every individual on the planet. (Matt. 10:23)

    *** w00 1/15 p.13 par.17“***

    Today, that prophecy is in the course of fulfillment on an unprecedented scale. True, untouched territories still exist, and it may be that in Jehovah’s due time, a large door leading to greater activity will open. (1 Corinthians 16:9) Nevertheless, the Bible does not state that Jehovah will wait until every individual on earth has received a personal witness. Rather, the good news must be preached to Jehovah’s satisfaction. Then the end will come.—Compare Matthew 10:23.

    *** w97 8/15 p.14 par.11***

    True, untouched territories still exist, and perhaps in Jehovah’s due time, a door of opportunity will open. (1 Corinthians 16:9) Still, Jesus’ words recorded at Matthew 10:23 are sobering: “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” While the good news will surely be announced throughout the earth, we will not in person reach all parts of the earth with the Kingdom message before Jesus “arrives” as Executioner.

    *** w62 2/1 p.96***

    Accordingly, by means of his instructions to his twelve apostles Jesus was prophetically telling us today that his anointed disciples or the remnant of spiritual Israel would not complete the circuit of the entire inhabited earth with the preaching of the message of God’s established kingdom before the glorified heavenly King Jesus Christ would arrive as Jehovah’s executional officer in the battle of Armageddon. This means that Jehovah’s witnesses today, who now include hundreds of thousands of the “other sheep” or earthly companions of the spiritual remnant, will not be able to reach personally all parts of the earth with the Kingdom message before the battle of Armageddon breaks out.

    EXERCISE FAITH IN JEHOVAH’S TIMING

    15. How can we show faith with regard to organizational

    adjustments?

    15 Continuing in the Kingdom preaching

    work in these last days requires

    faith in Jehovah’s timing. The

    changing world situation may call

    for some changes in how the disciplemaking

    work is carried on. The organization

    may occasionally make adjustments

    to address the needs of our

    activity as Kingdom proclaimers. We

    demonstrate faith in the God of “times

    and seasons” by fully cooperating with

    such adjustments as we serve loyally under

    his Son, the “head of the congregation.”—

    Eph. 5:23.

    COMMENTS

    So it seems that jws are not speeding up….they did prior to 1975, perhaps a new date is needed.

    The organization makes adjustments, is God making the adjustments…making it seem easier to auxiliary pioneer by dropping the hours to 50 and regular pioneer to 70 and the memorial pioneer hours to 30? Whether 30, 50, 70, jws lack effectiveness, turn in fake hours (1/2 hour d2d, rest driving around and coffee breaks starting the count from the day the leave home to the moment they walk over the home threshold.

    16. Why can we have faith that Jehovah will

    provide help at the right time?

    16 Jehovah wants us to pray to him

    freely with complete confidence that he

    will provide needed “help at the right

    time.” (Heb. 4:16) Does that not demonstrate

    his loving concern for us as individuals?

    (Matt. 6:8; 10:29-31) We show

    our faith in Jehovah God by praying regularly

    for his help and then acting in harmony with

    our prayers and his direction.

    Furthermore, we remember to pray for

    our fellow believers.

    COMMENTS

    How does God provide help?

    Through other jws in the congregation?

    Miracles?

    Revelation of understanding of the bible?

    Pray for fellow believers (only jws)

    (James 2:15,16)15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it?

    17, 18. (a) What action will Jehovah soon take

    against his enemies? (b) We must avoid what

    snare?

    17 Now is not the time to “waver in a

    lack of faith”; it is the time to become

    powerful by faith. (Rom. 4:20) God’s enemies—

    Satan and those under his influence—

    are trying to stop the work that Jesus

    assigned to His followers, including

    us. (Matt. 28:19, 20) Despite the Devil’s

    attacks, we know Jehovah as “a living

    God, who is a Savior of all sorts of men,

    especially of faithful ones.” He “knows

    how to deliver people of godly devotion

    out of trial.”—1 Tim. 4:10; 2 Pet. 2:9.

    COMMENTS

    Are jws wavering…powerful by faith in whom, the WTS?

    *** w02 8/1***

    How has reviewing the account of Korah strengthened your faith in Jehovah’s visible organization?

    *** w98 2/1 p. 30***

    Living and working for a couple of months with the large Brooklyn Bethel family strengthened my faith in Jehovah’s visible organization.

    God’s enemies – all non-jws

    18 Soon, Jehovah will bring an end

    to this wicked system of things. While

    we have not been given all the details

    and the exact time when this will occur,

    we do know that at just the right time,

    Christ will do away with God’s enemies,

    and Jehovah’s sovereignty will be vindicated.

    So, then, what a mistake it would

    be to fail to discern “the times and the

    seasons” in which we now live! May

    we never fall into the snare of thinking

    that “all things are continuing exactly

    as from creation’s beginning.”—1 Thess.

    5:1; 2 Pet. 3:3, 4.

    COMMENTS

    SOON = 133 years and counting

    Wicked system of things---all 7 billion plus non-jws, men, women, and children

    Right time---a clock is right 2 times a day—how many guesses does the WTS get?

    1874, 1878, 1881, 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1935, 1940’s, 1975

    “SHOW A WAITING ATTITUDE”

    19, 20. Why should we show a waiting attitude

    with regard to Jehovah?

    19 Jehovah God’s original purpose for

    humankind included endless time to

    learn about him and his beautiful creation.

    Ecclesiastes 3:11 states: “Everything

    he [Jehovah] has made pretty in

    its time. Even time indefinite he has put

    in their heart, that mankind may never

    find out the work that the true God has

    made from the start to the finish.”

    COMMENTS

    Wait on God? Or wait for the WTS to get it straight?

    The work of God or wait for the WTS to get it straight?

    20 How glad we can be that Jehovah

    has never changed his purpose for man!

    (Mal. 3:6) With God “there is not a variation

    of the turning of the shadow.” (Jas.

    1:17) His timetable is not governed by

    human means of measuring time, such

    as the rotation of the earth. Jehovah is

    “the eternal King.” (1 Tim. 1:17, ftn.)

    Therefore, let us “show a waiting attitude

    for the God of [our] salvation.”

    (Mic. 7:7) Indeed, “be courageous, and

    may your heart be strong, all you who

    are waiting for Jehovah.”—Ps. 31:24.

    COMMENTS

    God has not changed his purpose but the WTS can’t get it straight….

    1874, 1878, 1881, 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, (1984), (1994)

    Generation changes:

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/generation.php

    If human means of measuring time does not dictate God’s timetable, why should anybody listen to the WTS?

    Waiting on God or waiting for the WTS to get it straight?

    PICTURE: 2 Asian women on subway/train/bus; one with skirt is reading from a WTS publication (no sign of a bible) to woman with jeans on. Did this jw plan this or is it “incident/informal”?

    Do you make good use of time to do Jehovah’s will?

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    So why should any jws trust the WTS based on their history. Of course, most jws were born after 1975 and have not done any reading of current WTS publications let alone read the Proclaimers book or pre-1975 articles. If the WTS had not made the Proclaimers book (1993) part of the #1 talk in the school, many jws still would not know what is in it (or read the 1975 Yearbook which also had WTS history).

    NEXT WEEK, ARE YOU REFLECTING THE GLORY OF JEHOVAH?

    What is more important in reflecting God’s glory, preaching the WTS dogma but living an unloving life, or living a loving life of practical actions?

    (John 13:34,35)34 I am giving YOU a new commandment, that YOU love one another; just as I have loved YOU, that YOU also love one another. 35 By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.”

    Love, Blondie

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Par 12 1 st sentence says: ' Buying out the opportune time is not easy in a world full of distractions.’

    Its’ rather obvious why WT quotes Mat 24:37 instead of Luke’s account which also speaks of Noah’s day. Mat 24:37 omits the part where Luke 17:28 says: ‘They were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building.’

    The WTBTS is afraid to admit it; but instead being busy in the preaching activity itself (as they profess) they are actually rather heavily involved in buying, selling and yes building real estate projects! Very much contrary to what the Lord and Savior says his true Faithful and Discreet Slave would be doing in the time of the end.

    Its’ evident that WTBTS has gotten distracted!

    Excellent research as usual Blondie!

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    Thanx Blondie for posting

    No fault of yours, but this one gave me a head ach!

  • cult classic
    cult classic

    JWGoneBad - could not be any clearer than that.

    Good review as always Blondie

  • sseveninches
    sseveninches

    I always appreciate these comments for the WT, but this particular one was so good, I converted it to PDF and sent it to my Kindle. I could use it to fight off JWs who are spewing out nonsense around me.

    Pure gold.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    Therefore, let us “show a waiting attitude"?...... Easy for them to say while the GB, Corp and Attys has everything handed to them on a Silver Plater

    WTS is trying to dangle more carrots in front of the RnF

  • bobld
    bobld

    Thanks,Blondie

    For pointing out the wbts lack of knowledge and understanding of their own history.

    Also how narrow minded and lack of research of the modern jw.

    I can not believe this wt.Are they just stupid or brain dead.

    You know what, maybe we should sit down with a die hart belief in the crap mate and do the same

    research you do and not tell them what we are doing.Just make belief we are studing the wt

    and they will get the point w/o us telling them how foolish the wbts is.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Jehovah can easily outwait us. He can prevent you from receiving things you need for happiness, or even to be of any use to anyone, and make you keep waiting forever. You die without it, and Jehovah simply claims that he did it in his time. Remember, a lifetime to you is 3 short minutes to that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag--so all he needs do is wait "5 minutes" to give you the opposite sex and claim to have done it in a reasonable time while you are long dead before receiving anything.

    I only wish I could have Jehovah bound forever--and see how long "5 minutes" really is to him while he is bound.

  • JakeM2012
    JakeM2012

    Thanks Blondie, great review. This Wt article makes politicians speach seem clear and understandable. This is the biggest beat around the bush to say nothing article I have seen in a while.

  • Ding
    Ding

    Given the WTS' terrible record where setting dates, you'd think they'd leave this topic alone!

    Based on all the Bible verses they cite about Jehovah's knowledge of and control over events, it's pretty clear, isn't it, that either he isn't revealing the information to the GB or that they are constantly misunderstanding him and having to make more and more "adjustments"?

    Either way, why should anyone believe that the GB is Jehovah's chosen channel of communication?

    Didn't Jesus say something about not following blind guides?

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