HELP ME PLZ

by tjwTimothy 12 Replies latest jw experiences

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  tjwTimothy

  Hey Guys,

  Thanks for the help :).

  The language of the movie is in Dutch/vlemisch, situated in Antwerp and Brussels.

  This 'kingdom song' is composed by a dutch composer for this movie.

  It doesnt exist in real life, cause it would be difficult with the copywright infringement.

  You should hear it cause it sounds very kingdomlike :p. (took about a month to finalize it )

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  The conversation with the elders is written quite harsh, but is played rather cold (rational).

  I had a lot of talks with the elders here in belgium and holland, in which the content of the conversation was hars, but

  brought in a rational, sometimes loving way. You should see the scene, it isnt that hars as it looks like.

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  The name of the father the son and the hollyghost... I thought at my baptism a small decade ago they said it right before my baptism.

  It would be a major mistake if they didnt...

  I did answer the 2 main questions, but i thought that they also said these lines right before batism.

  Anyway thanks for the respons!

  Cheers,

  Timothy
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  jwfacts

  {2 boys hanging on a bridge}
  
  Thomas: Com’on, Come on , jump.
  Jonathan: You go first, you’re the eldest.
  
  Thomas: Are you scared or something? Com’on, Come on , prove to me you're not.
  
  {Under the bridge, pretending the to have a baptism}
  
  Thomas: And then there'll come a brother, who will grab your arms.
  Like this.
  "In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost spirit".
  ________________________________
  
  {at dinner table, family together, praying}
  
  THE FATHER:
  
  Jehovah, our gentle loving heavenly father, we are delighted with the hope you provide.
  We are glad with the path that you've shown us,
  and like that we won’t be decieved in by satans wicked world,
  and be saved for at the comming coming judgement.
  
  Please help Thomas, he dedicated his life to you, support him with his dedication.
  
  We are sincerely delighted about Jonathan's decision to get baptized.
  He's putting his life in your hands.
  We know he will have to endure trouble, will you take good care of him.?
  
  This prayer we send up in the name of your son, Jezsus Christ, Amen
  _________________________________
  
  {The mother is fixing the an old suit of the shunned brother for Thomas}
  THE MOTHER:
  
  Well, Lucas was of course a bit more fleshy than you, you know.
  Yes, this will do, no, wait, that's better, right?
  
  _______________________
  
  {Thomas visits his shunned brother in Brussels}
  
  Phone: Lucas
  THOMAS: Goodday Good Day to you sir, we would shortly like to talk about the hopeful promises the
  Bible gives us... Lucas hangs up the phone.
  
  ________________________
  
  {Lucas is looking at a earring}
  
  THOMAS: What are you doing?
  LUCAS: Doesn’t it look good?
  THOMAS: Com’ on, sit down.
  _______________________
  
  {Thomas is preparing to set the earring}
  
  THOMAS: Jonathan is getting baptized.
  You'll come?
  You know, you can look from a distance.
  LUCAS: Does dad know you are here?
  THOMAS: Dad told me that you’re not doing well.
  LUCAS: Com’ on, put in that earring.
  
  {earring fixed}
  
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  {In the car, in front of the parents house}
  LUCAS: It was nice that you dropped by Thomas,
  I really do appreciate that.
  But I won’t go to Jonathan's baptism.
  You don’t have to think, Thomas, that you can solve everyth…
  
  {Parents discover Thomas and his shunned brother}
  
  ______________________________
  
  {parents try to convince Thomas to see the elders}
  
  FATHER: Thomas, you have to understand God's guidance.
  MOTHER: We have to leave Lucas behind us; otherwise, we might lose the hope ourselves.
  FATHER: Thomas, you have to talk about this with the elders.
  MOTHER: Thomas, please.
  _______________________________
  
  {Thomas is praying on his bed}
  THOMAS: Jehovah Father, help me please, help me please, help me...
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  {Judicial committee}
  
  ELDER1: Thomas?
  
  Can you tell us why you are here?
  You’re not only doing much less preaching thaen before.

  You are isolating yourself.
  You are going the same path as your brother.
  You understand you can’t frequent him anymore.
  
  ELDER 2: To understand that, you must know that Jehovah completely doesn’t want you to
  be with an apostate.
  
  ELDER 3: Look up 1 kCor 5:31 {finding text}: But now I am writing you not to be in the
  companion of anyone, once called a brother, who is a fornicator or a greedy person
  or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, and not even eat with such a man.

  1 Cor 5:11 " But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man."
  
  ELDER1: What does this text tells you?
  
  THOMAS: But no, Lucas isn’t like that.
  
  ELDER 3: Thomas, not only this text is handles about applies to Lucas, Math 10:37 as well.

  Would you read it for us?
  
  One who has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worth me;
  and one who has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worth me.
  And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worth me.

  Mat 10:37,38 "He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me."

  ELDER 3: Are you worth Jezusworthy of Jesus? Do you have greater affection for Jehovah then than for relatives?
  ...
  ELDER1: Thomas?
  
  {Thomas murmurs}
  
  ELDER 2: But, you dedicated yourself to gGod, you've put your life in his hands.
  ELDER1: Why else did you get baptized?
  
  THOMAS: But I was 14.
  
  ELDER 2: That's just 2 years ago, has so much changed?
  
  ELDER1: If you don’t put Jehovah on/in ??? the first place in your life, we'll have to follow
  Gods guidance strictly.
  If you don’t show remorse, Thomas, Wwe'll have to remove you from our congregation.
  That’s not what you want, right?
  
  THOMAS: No, off of course not.
  
  ELDER 2: Think of the things you put on the line for this.
  Is Lucas so important to you, that you rather lose everything within this loving congregation?
  Your bond with God, your parents, your hope for eternal life?
  And Thomas, Think about Jonathan for a minute. You can’t attend his baptism if you are
  ruled out.
  
  ELDER1: Thomas, we ask this with the best intentions.
  
  ELDER 3: Do you sincerely regret your behavior, and can you promise you won’t do it again?
  
  THOMAS: I want to. But no. I don’t feel any remorse.
  
  ELDER1: Then there's nothing left to do than to remove you from the real true congregation of
  God.
  
  ELDER 2: If you do see your mistake Thomas, we hope you’ll find your way back to the
  congregation.
  
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  {Thomas' elder brother is not at home anymore}
  
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  {Baptism of his younger brother}
  MOTHER: Jonathan? Jonathan? Come.
  ELDER 3: Come here, your family is waiting.
  MOTHER: Jonathan?
  
  ELDER 1: In the name of the fFather, the sSon, and the holy ghostspirit.
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  jwfacts

  Actually, probably should make this part a bit less formal between brothers.

  Thomas: Com’on , Come on , jump.
  Jonathan: You go first, you’re the eldest oldest.
  
  Thomas: Are you scared or something? Com’on , Come on , prove to me you're not.
  
  {Under the bridge, pretending the baptism to be baptized}