1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

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  • biometrics
    biometrics

    Does anyone know any other reason(s) Jesus might not have selected the Watchtower corporation in 1919?

    1. Teaching the worship of Charles Taze Russell - (1916 Watchtower December 1st page 6015)

    2. Teaching the worship of Jesus - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 290)

    3. Teaching that Jesus became king in 1878 (not 1914) - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 66)

    4. That one of their main magazine editors was demon possessed - (1913 Bible Students Convention Report)

    5. Promoting books dictated by fallen angels to humans - (1924 Dec 3rd Golden Age page 50)

    6. Preaching racism - (1902 Watchtower July 15th page 215)

    7. Preaching the cross - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 418)

    8. Teaching that Jesus returned invisibly in 1874 - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 60)

    9. Teaching that the 1000 year reign of Christ started in 1874 - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 386)

    10. Teaching that the "other sheep" were to be in Heaven and number approximately 411,840,000 - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 102-103)

    11. Teaching that Charles Taze Russell was the Faithful and Discreet Slave, hence no Governing Body - (1916 Watchtower December 1st page 59-98)

    13. Teaching that Michael is the pope - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 188)

    14. Teaching that the pyramids were God’s witness stone - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 226)

    15. Promoting the pagan "winged sun disk" - (1918 The Finished Mystery)

    16. Promoting Masonic symbols - (1918 March 1st Watchtower)

    17. Falsely prophesying the end of the world in 1918 - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 485)

    18. Celebrating holidays - (1919 Golden Age Dec 24th pg. 215)

    19. Went on to reference a Johannes Greber to support the New World Translation of the Bible. Spirits often spoke through Johannes' wife, a spirit medium, and told him the Bible was full of errors.

    20. Teaching Jesus was responsible for writing literature - (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 295)

    21. Prophesying that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old - (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89.)

    22. Prophesying that 1925 will mark the end - (Golden Age, Jan. 4, 1922, p. 217.)

    23. The Watchtower was in the middle of an internal power struggle from 1916-1928 following Charles Taze Russell's death. - (Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose 1959 p69)

    24. Led by Rutherford who had alchol problems (Moyle v. Fred W. Franz, et al. case, docket # 15845)

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    easy- he did not return in 1914

    and I love the Finished Mystery book, the Bible Teach book of its day, where it says that Laviathan in Job 40 is the Locomotive. A detailed breakdown of this wonderous Bible prohecy:

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    ooh ooh and this Gem.

    Source: http://www.jwfiles.com/wt_said_it/quotes_finished_mystery.htm

    " .Calculations in distance from Scranton, Pennsylvania to Brooklyn, New York by way of Hoboken Ferry and misc.. ways .....Scriptures in Johns 6:60,61 ; Matt. 20:11 are quoted."

    want to know what these scriptures say? the scriptures are in full at the end of this page

    John 6:60-71

    New International Version (NIV)

    Many Disciples Desert Jesus

    60 On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”

    61 Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you?

    Matthew 20:11

    New International Version (NIV)

    11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner.

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    ".Calculations in distance from Scranton, Pennsylvania to Brooklyn, New York by way of Hoboken Ferry and misc.. ways .....Scriptures in Johns 6:60,61 ; Matt. 20:11 are quoted."
    I believe this excerpt from Finished Mystery somehow foreshadowed Frank Sinatra and also has a second fulfillment in the 21st century as hipsters have taken over Hoboken.
  • biometrics
    biometrics

    And it keeps getting weirder by the minute. How deep does this rabbit hole go?

  • notjustyet
    notjustyet

    This is all covered in the book "Captives of a Concept" available on pdf.

    Check it out as it lays it all out very nicely.

  • designs
    designs

    If you truly were of the Consecrated Class all would be clear

  • reslight2
    reslight2

    According to the modern-day Watchtower leaders, Messiah “came to inspect his slaves in 1918.” (The Watchtower, March 15, 1990, page 13) According to this same Watchtower:

    “Well, by then [1918], who had given sincere truth-seekers the correct understanding of the ransom sacrifice….?”

    The answer given is:

    “The facts show that it was the group of anointed Christians associated with the publishers of the magazine Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald Christ’s Presence….”

    (Note that in 1918 that although Rutherford seemed to be proceeding with his new “organization” ideas, there was actually no “Jehovah’s witnesses” organization.) The statement given would lead one to the conclusion that the Watchtower today is not teaching the truth. How so? If Zion’s Watch Tower (actually The Watch Tower) was printing the truth about the ransom-sacrifice in 1918, then what the modern-day Watchtower is teaching cannot possibly be true.

    What is the teaching of The Watchtower of today concerning the ransom-sacrifice? The March 15, 1990 Watchtower answers:

    “Jesus came `to give his soul a ransom in exchange for many.’ ( Mark 10:45 ) But who are the many? Adam is evidently excluded because he was a perfect man who deliberately chose to disobey God and died as unrepentant, willful sinner.”

    The article goes on to say:

    “The course taken by each individual determines whether he will benefit from Jesus’ sacrifice. Like Adam, the willfully wicked do not have the ransom merit and eternal life forced upon them. As Christ said: `He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him.’ ( John 3:36 )”

    Thus The Watchtower of today would basically make all who disobey the Watchtower leaders [who supposedly represent Jesus] in this life as willfully wicked, and receiving no benefit from the ransom. This disregards John 12:46-48 , which shows that those who disobey Jesus today will be judged in the resurrection day. It also disregards that all of Adam's descendants are condemned in Adam. (Romans 5:12-19) In this age, the wrath, inherited from Adam, simply remains upon those who do not believe. (John 3:36) This is not a new concedemnation, but simply a statement that the condemnation in Adam continues upon those who do not, by faith, become justified in the blood of the lamb by which they could be recognize by God as alive.)

    Nevertheless, according to the present-day Watchtower leaders, Adam would receive no benefit from the ransom.

    Now compare this with The Watch Tower of 1918 (August 15, 1918):

    “When this ransom price shall have been formally delivered over to Justice in the end of this Gospel age, then, it will … have been exchanged for Adam and his posterity, the world of mankind, all of whom will be immediately transferred by the Father to the Son, that the work of the Millennial Kingdom may begin. The ransom price is designed to bring to Adam and his race the earthly life and the earthly life-rights and honors which were lost in Eden through disobedience.” (Italics added by us. See Reprints, page 6314)

    Again in The Watch Tower of October 1, 1918 (Reprints, page 6337), we find this statement:

    “As in the one man Jesus Christ both Adam and all his children will be justified from the original condemnation, that which came upon the human race because of Adam’s disobedience.”

    Please note that in the two quotes above, from the early The Watch Tower in 1918 that the ransom is presented quite differently from that in 1990. In 1918 Adam and all his posterity are to benefit from the ransom. In 1990, according to present-day Watchtower leaders, Adam will receive no benefit from the ransom, nor will many billions of mankind living today that might be destroyed during the destruction of Satan’s world.

    A little reflection on the above should lead one to see that if Zion’s Watch Tower was teaching the truth concerning the ransom in 1918, then what The Watchtower of today is teaching is false, for they do not teach the same thing. Of course, just because the whole world receives benefits from the ransom of Jesus does not mean that “everlasting life” will be “forced” upon them. It only means that they will be given full opportunity to come into harmony with Yahweh and His Son, Jesus. Those of the world who then refuse will eventually be eternally destroyed in the second death at the end of the 1,000-Year Reign of Jesus when the Kingdom is returned to the Father. ( Revelation 20:7-9 ; Psalm 37:9 , 10 ; Matthew 25:41 , 46 ; 2 Thessalonians 1:9 , 10 ; 1 Corinthians 15:24 ) I am in general agreement with The Watch Tower of 1918; therefore I am in disagreement with The Watchtower of modern times which would deny that Jesus gave his life as “a ransom for all.” ( 1 Timothy 2:5 , 6 ) It is this “ransom for all” teaching that will actually vindicate Yahweh as not only the rightful ruler, but that his ways are best in all things. It is only through the “ransom for all” that all the wicked will come to know Yahweh. Psalm 83:18 ; Compare Ezekiel 16:62 , 63 .

    On page 4 of the March 15, 1990 Watchtower we read:

    “When Adam sinned, he lost everlasting perfect human life, with all rights and prospects. Hence, the same thing was redeemed by means of Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.”

    A clear statement is made, but then the logical conclusion is denied. If Adam’s “everlasting perfect human life” was redeemed by the ransom, then it would clearly mean that Adam would be released from sin’s condemnation of death. To reason otherwise would destroy the entire principle of the ransom.

    The claim is made that Adam did not repent. The Scriptures nowhere state this. We are not informed as to whether he did or did not repent. There are some reasons to believe that he did have a change of heart. But Yahweh did not offer to him any deliverance based upon his repentance. Rather, another method of deliverance was vaguely suggested when Yahweh stated to the serpent: “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head, and you will bruise him in the heel.” ( Genesis 3:15 )

    See also:

    Adam and the Ransom Sacrifice
    http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=167

    Armageddon, the Second Death and Judgments
    http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=205

  • reslight2
    reslight2

    biometrics stated:

    6. Preaching racism - (1902 Watchtower July 15th page 215)

    http://mostholyfaith.com/bible/reprints/Z1902JUL.asp#Z215:3

    " From the Scriptural standpoint we must and do recognize all of the human family as one race, of which father Adam was the original head; a later head being Noah."

    Actually, what we find presented in the WT of July 15, 1902 is Russell's studies in which he exposes as false some common racist ideas of his time.

    See also:

    http://ctr.reslight.net/?cat=496

  • reslight2
    reslight2

    biometrics stated:

    14. Teaching that the pyramids were God’s witness stone - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 226)

    On page 226, it is stated:

    Thrust in Thy sickle, and reap: for the time is
    come [for thee] to reap.— The Great Pyramid
    confirms the Bible's teaching that the time of
    Harvest has come.

    We do not find any reference to "pyramids" (plural), but we do find a reference to one pyramid, that is, the one often called "The Great Pyramid".

    Nevertheless, the Jehovah's Witnesses today believe that the Great Pyramid is not of God, and thus, from their perspective, this teaching would not have been approved by God or Jesus.

    http://gp.reslight.net

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