Which arguments for or against God are convincing to you?

mankkeli

1) Kalam argument -- what begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist, therefore the universe has a cause
2) The design or fine tuning argument -- the regularity of the universe suggests the existence of an intelligent creator
3) The Ontological argument
4) Its impossible for "something" to come from "nothing"
5) The argument from Morality. A moral law giver must exist
6) The argument from experience. The proof is in the pudding. Following God has changed a believers life for the better and molded them as a better person. They experienced the holy spirit.
7) The consistency of the bible. The bible is consistent. If you read it, the inherent nature of it suggests its truth.
8) The predictions of the bible have come true.
9) The predictions in the bible codes have come true
10) The problem of suffering -- proof God is false
11) People make up religions all the time, they are all similar, all lack supporting evidence and simply show men like to make things up
12) The teapot argument: people have no valid reason to make this particular wild claim. Therefore we have to assume, its "false" until we are given actual reasons to make the claim.
13)The bible is inconsistent and therefore false
14) Science has firmly disproven a literal interpretation of the bible, therefore the bible is false
15) Praying has been statistically shown to be useful, therefore God is just up
16) Churches lied and therefore we can see clear evidence its all made up
17) There is no free lunch. Our every day experience shows that there is no free lunch. Clearly religion is wishful thinking.
18) Why doesn't God heal amputees
19) The milk jug; praying to a milk jug is as effective as praying to God given that we really give excuses for non success
20) Other theist argument
21) Other atheist argument
22) WTF
23) I think God's existence is undecideable

james_woods

3) The Ontological argument (The Moose is confused on what this is)

I am confused...who is the Moose? I thought Bullwinkle was never confused.

mankkeli

James Wood- That was an error, corrected.

mankkeli

N. drew As many as possible, you also have the possibility to explain the rationale for your conviction

N.drew

How many straw men invited to this partay?

james_woods

James Wood- That was an error, corrected.

Thank you. BTW - I think you forgot to mention one obvious issue: God has NEVER openly appeared to humankind in general. All so-called "observations" are always in third person, and usually in ancient writings of dubious authenticity.

THE GLADIATOR

18) Why doesn't God heal amputees?

"To figure out how we might be able to reignite that genetic potential for limb regeneration, researchers are starting small -- with mice. But they aren't having to work entirely from scratch to track down how an organism could regrow something. They're looking to the salamander as their model.

Salamanders are part of the amphibian family, members of which are cold-blooded and have an additional skin covering of feathers or fur. Different species of salamanders are either terrestrial or aquatic and are the only amphibians with tails. In case they lose that precious tail, salamanders can grow it back. They're the highest order of animals capable of regenerating body parts, including their tails, upper and lower jaws, eyes and hearts."

So there you have it. Humans are not as blessed by god as salamanders!

Which arguments for or against God are convincing to you?

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