A sickening example of religious vampirism

by expatbrit 80 Replies latest jw friends

  • dickelentz
    dickelentz

    Rem,

    I took some time to consider whether God's judgements are direct
    or indirect. The reality is that you'll find a mixture of both in the
    Bible as well as in "real" life. Sometimes God's judgements are
    direct. But sometimes he simply allows us to suffer the natural
    consequences of sin.

    Since your issue is with God's direct judgements, I'd like to set
    aside the issue of indirect ones for the time being.

    Yes, the passages you cite do indicate that children will suffer for
    the sins of their parents. And though there are cases where this is
    indirect judgement, there are numerous examples where God
    deliberately destroyed children along with their parents due to the
    parents' sin.

    Why did God do this? And does this indicate that God is cruel and
    capricious?

    My answer is that the existence of sin and evil in the world is a
    much bigger issue than most of us are willing to acknowledge.
    Without some restraints and controls, society would quickly
    unravel due to the inherent weaknesses and sin within each of us. If
    God did nothing, things would get worse, not better. That is what I believe both Exodus 20 and Leviticus 26 are about.

    Israel had a key role in God's plan address this problem. God
    wanted to bless the world though Israel (Genesis 12:1-3). He
    intended to reveal himself and his nature through his relationship
    with them. But God knew that Israel could easily be led away from
    him and would quickly give in to sin. God dealt with Israel sternly
    and forcefully to keep them from falling away and being overcome
    by their sin nature.

    I don't see God's punishment in this case as being cruel. It is rather a matter of justice. God hates sin. God punishes sin in order to keep men from sinning.

    All governments exercise justice in order to keep people from
    breaking the rules of society. Without a system of justice, all
    societies would eventually fall apart and become corrupt. God's
    justice is no different. He's just dealing with much bigger issues,
    some of which are eternal.

    When David was punished for taking taking a census (2 Samuel
    24), he didn't blame God nor call God unjust or cruel. We may not
    understand why what David did was a sin. But it's clear that David
    accepted the consequences for his actions and didn't shake his fist at
    God.

    But my contention is that even if I understand these verses to be
    ones that reflect God's justice (and not cruelty), they are still only
    part of the picture. If I stop here, I will never fully understand what God is like.

    God is also merciful and loving. I must balance what I read in Leviticus 26 and Exodus 20 and in other verses by verses by what I find elseware.

    The Bible says that God punishes sin in order to keep us from
    sinning. But God doesn't want us to be punished personally. God
    is merciful. He offered a "substitute" to take the punishment for us.

    Romans 5:8 says that "God shows his love for us in that while we
    were yet sinners, Christ died for us." The rest of Romans 5 talks
    about the relevance of this.

    If you don't mind, I'd like to get your thoughts on these verses, "the
    rest of the story."

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