"That's what Armageddon will look like."

by AllTimeJeff 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • AllTimeJeff

    I couldn't put the words back in my mouth.

    That is what I said, without premeditation, to our car group on Tuesday, September 11, 2001.

    On that day, as an elder, I was out in FS. In dealing with the shock of what we saw and were listening to on the radio (like good little pioneers, we didn't stop our day, we used this as an opportunity to preach...) some of us were showing the bits of humanity that the borg hadn't completely stolen from us, myself included.

    We got an unusual amount of people who talked with us that day. Opinions as you can imagine varied. Even in our car group.

    While we were talking, a sister in our group hoped that there weren't too many who died. I callously replied to that, almost shrugging;

    "That's what Armageddon will look like."

    I am pretty sure I said that between 11 and noon that morning. Before that, I was stunned. Another big news story, something to follow on the TV. For the first couple of hours, my mind gathered the facts. I didn't really think about the people.

    It's funny when your mind and your heart make a connection that you just can't ignore. The second those words came out of my mouth, I made myself sick to my stomach. I got sad. I started to feel bad for the people. I then went to a TV at a fellow elders house and watched it again. I saw the people on the ground, New Yorkers who were frightened, "faint out of fear". Yup, just like a picture right out of the Watchtower, buildings were falling, people were scared, crying. Sure looked like Armageddon to me.

    For one nanosecond, I meant it when I said "That's what Armageddon will look like." Just like a good newly appointed elder should say. But scarcely had the words left my mouth before I was confronted with something I was not prepared for, an opportunity to actually look at what I believed.

    I used to believe in Armageddon. But really, how can a JW really understand what that will be like. Billions, BILLIONS of people who will be destroyed, with buildings falling over them, scared, frightened at the great day of Jehovah's fury.

    That's my god, Jehovah, the destroyer of billions who piss him off. That was who I worshipped.

    I hope that the 10th anniversary of the attacks of 9/11 will hopefully cause JW's to think about what they preach. I am proud of the fact that I was able to put it together. I really deep down never did want mankind to be destroyed. It took 9/11 for me to be confronted with what I was taught to believe, and what I actually believed. It would be another 5 years before I was able to finally leave, but that was the start of my long exit out of Jehovah's Witnesses, the cult that teaches God hates and will destroy most everybody.

  • Bella15

    That's so sweet of you.

  • Rabbit


    I used to believe in Armageddon. But really, how can a JW really understand what that will be like. Billions, BILLIONS of people who will be destroyed, with buildings falling over them, scared, frightened at the great day of Jehovah's fury.
    That's my god, Jehovah, the destroyer of billions who piss him off. That was who I worshipped.

    Yep. That brings back a lot of sad memories of 9/11 and begged the question, "Why...?" when it came to our worship and devotion to a set of any beliefs. I have grown so much, in a good way, since I walked away from the WT's thought control. Most of us have.

  • serenitynow!
    "That's what Armageddon will look like."

    On 9/11 I was working in the nursing home. My JW grandma who was my patient in the nursing home saw what was going on on the TV. I asked her what she thought was going on. She said, "I don't know but let's get out of here!" I told her that it was probably like Armageddon in that there was no where to go to be safe.

  • d

    I remeber 9/11 I was 10 yrs old and I saw when we got home from running errands and my aunt called from New York. It was scary, I thought in many ways it was the begining of the end. Everbody in my school was experiecing anxiety for close to two weeks.

  • Mr. Falcon
    Mr. Falcon

    Silly Jeff, didn't you read the September 1, 2011 watchtower? Apparently Armageddon is happening NOW. so i turned on the TV to see what it would look like. This is what I saw....

    .........maybe the JWs were right.

  • dinah

    Jeff, great to see you!!

    I was 32 and df'd. I thought it WAS Armageddon, so did my Mom. It made me read my bible again. Funny thing is reading the bible after being out of the Borg for almost 20 years, the bible itself told me that the WT were liars.

    What stuck me was the GLEE the "Christian Congregation" had over the events of 911. They were practically rabid.

  • Billzfan23


    I was also in the borg for about another 5 years after September 11, 2001. I stepped down as an elder in December of 2006, was DF'ed in April to 2007. It's really sick that an event that is supposed to be met with NORMAL human emotion like SADNESS falls on the ears and eyes of the dubs as a major faith strengthening event...so sad!

  • PSacramento

    I've always been of the mind that one should be careful what oen wishes for because one just might get it.

    I don't think that JW's TRULY understand that IF Armegeddon does come that they will be in for a very rude awkening.

    Luckly the language of Revelation is simply the "apocolyptic language" of the times, colorful and poetic more than literal and concrete.

  • Doubting Bro
    Doubting Bro


    Interesting take. I was also a fairly new elder on 9-11-01 and I was convinced that the Great Tribulation had begun. After all, those bombings were conducted by a radical religious group and I thought for sure that the world would finally turn against Babylon and it would be on. Yet, I also remember not being excited about it at all. Just the opposite, I felt sick.

    As my wife & I sat in front of the TV that Tuesday evening (we had a Monday bookstudy at the time), neither of us spoke. We didn't eat dinner, just sat there in the dark watching the scene play out over and over again. I thought to myself, "what did the people in the WTC do to deserve such a horrific death"? All they did was go to work that morning. I remember praying that I had done enough to be spared. An absolute sense of dread came over me. I thought about all the people that hadn't been preached to yet, why would they have to suffer? I thought about non-JW workmates, friends, neighbors. All who were now about to die. Maybe I could have done a better job of reaching them. Was their blood to be on my hands? I had friends in NYC, were they ok?

    I also remember going in service that Sat after. I didn't present any magazines, just would read some scriptures and chat with folks. The overwhelming sadness was still very raw. Yet, it was probably the best day I ever had in service because 1) I wasn't trying to leave mags and 2) I was simply trying to provide a measure of peace. Had long conversations with householders that day and very little WT doctrine was discussed.

    That day and the weeks that followed did erode my faith in the WT. The US didn't decend into anarchy. Instead, people pulled together. And in the next few years, instead of the world cracking down on religion, things pretty much stayed the same as far as religious freedom went.

    I often asked myself, surely the 9-11 attacks must have been part of prophesy. If that wasn't enough to spark the attack on religion by world governments, then what would it take? That stuck with me and a few years later, I started questioning various doctrines.

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