Good point, Nickolas. Now, do you think the US could help a lot to stop violence in Mexico if it restricted the sale of weapons to Mexican drug lords, whatever the size of its share? And, how exactly would a squad help reduce violence?
Here's an example of help from the friend "North of the border":
Operation Fast and Furious was the name of a sting run by the United StatesBureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) between 2009 and 2010 as part of Project Gunrunner in its investigations into illegal gun trafficking . The stated purpose of the operation was to permit otherwise-suspected straw purchasers to complete the weapon's purchase and transit to Mexico, in order to build a bigger case against Mexican criminal organizations suspected of being the ultimate buyer. [ 1 ] The operation started in the fall of 2009 and ended in late 2010 shortly after the death of Brian Terry, a US Border Patrol Agent and has since become the subject of controversy and a U.S. congressional investigation. During the operation, the sale of at least 2,000 guns were facilitated by ATF knowing most would be trafficked to Mexico. The guns have been linked (through eTrace, ATF's electronic tracing program) to over 150 shootings in Mexico . Of the 2,000 guns knowingly released by ATF agents, only 600 are reported as recovered by officials. The remaining 1,400 guns have not been recovered.
I added the emphasis. Now, it seems America cries a lot over ONE dead American, but has nothing to say about 150 "shootings". Say they only shot one person each time (which is highly unlikely). That's still 150 to 1.
Do we need this kind of help? By the way, Mexican authorities were never informed about this.
Arizona gun shop told ATF sting was dangerous
Federal agents and prosecutors last year encouraged Arizona gun dealers to sell firearms to buyers for Mexican cartels even after the store owners fretted that weapons might be used to kill Border Patrol agents, according to e-mails obtained by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.
Grassley, ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder that the e-mails refute earlier Justice Department denials. The e-mails were exchanged by a federal agent and an Arizona gun dealer last April and June.
“In light of this new evidence, the Justice Department’s claim that the ATF never knowingly sanctioned or allowed the sale of assault weapons to straw purchasers is simply not credible,” Grassley wrote in the letter sent Wednesday.
The letter and e-mails were made public Thursday.
Justice Department officials in Washington, D.C., could not be reached late Thursday, and a spokesman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment.
The controversy stems from Operation Fast and Furious, an Arizona investigation in which agents monitored weapons and buyers after suspicious sales in an effort to track guns to cartel members.
After U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in a December shootout near Nogales, Ariz., two AK-47s found at the scene were traced to Operation Fast and Furious. They had been purchased in Glendale 11 months earlier.
Federal authorities previously denied that gun-store owners were encouraged to continue selling firearms to cartel operatives, some of whom visited shops repeatedly, purchasing dozens of assault rifles.
The e-mails released by Grassley contradict those statements. In correspondence with an unidentified gun dealer last April, ATF Supervisor David Voth wrote:
“I understand that the frequency with which some individuals under investigation by our office have been purchasing firearms from your business has caused concerns for you. . . . However, if it helps put you at ease, we are continually monitoring these suspects using a variety of investigative techniques which I cannot go into (in) detail.”
The firearms vendor responded by asking for a letter to ensure that he would not face repercussions for selling dozens of weapons to a suspected criminal: “I want to help ATF with its investigation, but not at the risk of agents’ safety because I have some very close friends that are U.S. Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona.”
What is amazing here is that the store owner was concerned about their accusing him of complicity. He never showed any concern over the deaths of Mexicans south of the border. But, well, he sells weapons in the first place. He knows what they are used for.
'Operation Fast and Furious': The Biggest, Most Underreported Scandal of Obama's Presidency?
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/transcript/operation-fast-and-furious-biggest-most-underreported-scandal-obamas-presidency#ixzz1X0OLYCOF
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: "Project Gun Runner" also known in Arizona as "Operation Fast and Furious," could be the biggest and most under reported scandal of Obama's presidency.
Now, a sting gone bad by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives -- it is a blunder that resulted not only in more than 1,700 smuggled weapon going from the U.S. to Mexico and officials believe these weapons may be connected to the deaths of at least two Americans.
Now President Obama recently denied any prior knowledge of the operation, much less, granting its authorization.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: There may be a situation here in which a serious mistake was made. If that's the case then we'll find out and we'll hold somebody accountable.
I wonder if this somebody will be held accountable for the deaths of TWO Americans only. Because, whoever this person is, is simply accountable for the deaths of many more. And it is a shame that even the newspaper is reporting this as if nothing had happened in Mexico.
Yes, violence in Canada is nowhere near as in Mexico. But, if it were, would Canadians agree to having Americans in their soil? We all know they wouldn't.
I like you a lot, Nickolas. I'm kind of sorry that you and I are having this discussion. I suppose you see things your way, and I have failed to show them my way. I suppose it's the same thing with the rest of the posters on this thread.
A cousin of mine was the girlfriend of this good looking young surgeon. The surgeon was kidnapped by drug traffickers. The parents received proof of their having him hostage: the fingers of his right hand were chopped off. The family paid the ransom, and he was returned alive. That was fortunate: sometimes you will pay sum after sum, and your loved one will never return. Once you stop paying, because you have no money left, either the body appears - in which case you carry the burden of "not having done more for him/her"-, or you never find the body, in which case you are left knowing that the person was killed long ago, surely after rape if she was a woman, and they squeezed the very last cent out of you. So, not only did they kill your relative, they also made you go broke. This young man was spared that fate. He moved to San Diego where he is receiving professional help. Yeah, the damned Mexicans didn't do their fair share in his case. It would be simply a matter of letting Americans handle the thing.
So I submit this to you. The US receives drugs from all over the world. The American government makes the laws and has resources that other police corps can only dream of. Why do they want people abroad -like the Mexican government- to do the hard thing, instead of adding grains of sand in a number greater than that of Israel's descendants, to fight a problem that is theirs as well, with their own judges, their own police, their own money, responding only to their own constituents? That can dry the finances of the men who kidnapped this young surgeon, don't you think? And please, no more "Fast and Furious". By the way, I hope the men who led the operation are held accountable for the deaths of people other than two Americans. Their being Mexicans should not matter.