Review and Comments on the New Elders Book

by MrDarkKnight 46 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • MrDarkKnight

    I recently completed an exhaustive review of an unofficial copy of the New Elders manual. My father, who is currently serving as an elder told me a friend of his in the Service Department told him it was on the internet so I eagerly looked for it and found it. Yes, I know it was a violation of copyright, but while at Bethel I made copies of MANY technical manuals which is also a copy of copyright so the WTS hypocrisy does not concern me.

    I was appointed as an elder the year the Pay Attention book (manual replaced by this one) was released so I have very good working knowledge of the old book and could compare the two books. A few highlights:

    1. The proliferation of phone sex, virtual sex, men going to strip clubs and receiving lap dances and "dry humping" finally led to a review of the word porneia which has led to it now including any sexaul activity involving one person, a second person or an animal, the genitals of at least one person or animal and LEWD intent. SKIN TO SKIN CONTACT is not necessary (lap dances, dry humping and hand jobs or foot jobs through clothing (yes I sat on cases involvig this) now justify divorce, many wives rejoicing on that one!)

    2. The most explicit direction ever given in one place on the handling of child molestation issues. This section was very disturbing to me as it proved to me that the WTS knows it bears responsbility for the child molestation that occured over the years and wishes to avoid the bad press going forward. This section to me is an acknowledgement of the guilt but far from an apology. As a former elder I am sick.

    3. Filing bankruptcy now calls an elder's qualifications into question. This is new.

    4. Marital separation now requires an exhaustive review by the elders. Detailed steps provided. This is new.

    5. The term "loose conduct" is expanded to include "brazen conduct" which can now include conduct beyond that which is sexual and can include things like active JWs POSTING ON THIS BOARD. Lurkers BEWARE. If you look once, its just curiosity. If you hang out here its now BRAZEN CONDUCT and is a disfellowshipping offense.

    6. Gross uncleanness (pretty much anything of a sexual nature besides mastrubation) now a disfellowshipping charge. Masturbation is pretty much untouchable.

    7. Unrepentantly taking a blood transfusion is now automatic disassociation. No judicial committee is required.

    The thing that rocked me to my core as I read the manual was how much of it contains rules, regulations and procedures that are not directly from the Bible and only have validity if you believe that the WTBS is God's channel of comuunication. Speaking from experience, when you are an elder and you are sincere this book is the LAST WORD. Reading itg without the WT filter made me sick to my stomach. When I think of all the people I hurt....all I can say is I am sorry and that I am not involved in it anymore.

    What are your thoughts?

  • shamus100

    Well I thank you for your comments. It is interesting to see how they are going to whitewash everything sooner than later... ;) Oh, they will survive, just in another form, if you ask me.

    But I do have one question. In Soddom and Gomorrah they had sex with filth - now was that addressed? I mean it did say in the time of the end it would be worse than soddom and gomorrah, so surely this must have been addressed. ;) Just funnin'.

  • Chemical Emotions
    Chemical Emotions

    "Brazen conduct" Lol. Another term that's gonna give them even more control over people.

  • MrDarkKnight

    Shammus - LOL!!! I have to laugh to keep from crying.

  • MrDarkKnight

    Chemical - I laughed when I read that too. You gotta hand it to them. They know a new term locks the sheep in every time. The more fear of punishment you can establish the easier it is to control people and enable people to "rat" their fellow members out in order to receive bonus points for being righteous. Now if you could convert bonus points for ratting people out to hours of FS that would really rock!


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  • daringhart13

    Thanks Mr.DarkKnight,

    I appreciate the summary.....I haven't even looked at the new book.

    However, your apology at the end resonated with me. I was an elder 11 years......and filled it with aout 40 of activity/"privileges".....

    I still have nightmares of some of the things I did under their direction. I crushes me...... and I was considered the "loving elder"

    The whole thing just makes me sick.

  • paulnotsaul

    You know it's funny but I was just reading this book when I read this thread. It just blows my freakin mind every time I read this book. I brought it up to my jw dad and he defended it. He said he didn't have a problem with it. I have a saying "You can't argue with ignorance". This has got to be the hardest fight I've ever fought to make them see the Hypocrisy!

  • Botzwana

    How can masturbation be untouchable?

  • allelsefails

    I was an elder for 6 years or so. I went to the supplementery school meeting where they changed the "Loose Conduct" rule. It amazed me even then that they could be that ridiculous. Loose Conduct can include viewing porn - if it is nasty porn - playboy is OK .... but girl on girl is a no-no...

    The new book is pretty much the same. Here is the book fron the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that gives elders the right to do evil things to their fellow Christians and blame it on someone else. Although if you ask the Elders are ONLY acting as a local congregation nothing from the branch influences them - legally. Lawsuit protection built in.

    I personally had a Judicial committee that went like this - Elders: Do you accept that the FDS in MATT is the governing body? ME: Yep / Elders: We find you guilty of Apostasy, but since you are repentant you will will be privately reproved.

    I never was repentant, I never admitted to being an Apostate, I still don't understand how that meeting happened the way it did. Tho I know you cannot appeal a private reproof only disfellowshipping is appealable. F***ing crazy.

    Nothings changed...

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