My association with this organisation is coming to its end!

by TimothyT 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • nugget

    Tim I am so glad you are getting the support from those that truly care about you. It is very special to have people in your life who truly accept you for all you are and stand by you. What is wonderful is that you can celebrate your relationship without having to worry what others think or feel that it needs to be hidden these things can wear you down if you let them persist.

    It may be that you experience negative feelings and some sorrow it all depends how deep the conditioning is. I was happy to make the break but found myself crying all over my son's teacher when I told her we had been df'd. It was because conditioning told me that what had happened was devasting. It wasn't to me and isn't now but it took time for those feelings to be purged. I still feel sadness when I come across others still trapped by the cult not because of shunning but because I know they are still trapped.

    Embrace your new life, put this organisation behind you and appreciate that life can be so much better on the outside.

  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    I luv ya Tim n Jack x

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I have the same question Franklin Massey has. Sounds like your dad is waffling OR like you may have been overly optimistic about his disillusionment in earlier posts.

    If my opinion is worth anything, don't talk with the elders anymore about it. You have no real defense in the JC. You have a lifestyle that is condemned by their superiors. Like the elder told you, DF is the only possible end - unless you save them the trouble of having to meet and DA first.

    And James Woods gave great advice. is your best friend right now. The anti-gay stand of the religion is the tip of the iceberg of all the problems with the Borg. If you aren't aware of all the facts, you could be caught running back to them the first time you have a bad breakup in a relationship.

  • discreetslave

    Wishing you all the best. I'll pray for your dad's release from the JW prison.

  • dm6

    and would like to also be the third to say - what James_wood said.

    Good luck timmy chin up mate, its all good now.

  • Rydor

    If I were you, and if you want to truly be free from the JWs, I think I would research the many valid reasons to give up on this religion - outside of just the gay issue.

    I'll second this. It's great you're getting out but there's a high chance you're going to suffer pangs of guilt over not associating with the Watchtower Society. To really be free you need to examine for yourself the mountains of evidence proving the Watchtower is not, and never was "God's organization." Reading former Governing Body member Raymond Franz's "Crisis of Conscience" is a great place to start. It's very well-written and not mean-spirited like you might expect. It sheds a lot of light on things like the changing of the 1914 doctrine and the predictions that Armageddon would come in 1975. I think it's currently out of print but you can find it online as a PDF. For me, reading it lifted a huge weight off my shoulders. I think it will for you too.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    I'm climbing aboard the bandwagon. Instead of Watchtower disfellowshipping you for "porneia", you are entitled to disfellowship them for apostasy and fraud.

  • Alfred

    Timothy T...

    That elder seems to be one of few open-minded elders... it appears he wants to make things as easy as possible for you. Most elders would probably take a hard line and start taking the steps they're expected to take.

    (BTW, my wife and I have been friends with a gay non-JW couple for 6 years now, but we've only been out of the borg for a little over a year... they're probably the best friends we have right now... We never mentioned this friendship with anyone out of fear of being marked, reproved or disfelloshipped. But we always knew that being gay is definitely NOT a choice that people make and it certainly isn't an evil act, so we never really accepted the WT's viewpoint about homosexuality... )

    Just know that you're making the right choice... i hope you thoroughly enjoy your new-found freedom!

    Good luck!

  • DarioKehl

    you have a PM, Timothy

  • Franklin Massey
    Franklin Massey


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