I think someone peed in a cup and they called it champagne.
Did Jesus make wine or grape juice
by jam 25 Replies latest jw friends
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jam
The word translated "wine" cannot, with any degree of
certainty, be proven to be either intoxicating or not
intoxicating. The greek word "oinos" is A generic term,
which designates the grape in all it stages, (according
to William Patton, Bible wine, Star Bible Publications).
OK, so it was wine that was water down.
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Haulin Oats
I asked a mormon guy I worked with why they don't drink but yet Jesus (their leader in part) turned water in to wine. He said it was grape-juice not wine. Ok. So last time i checked, Welch's never made me hallucinate or see visions. I wonder what he would have said if I asked him what HE thought Jesus made at the festival.... Oh, well. You can't save 'em all.
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TTWSYF
I remember reading somewhere that the wine would kill germs [like from the plague or something] and that grape juice wouldn't so the non-catholics would get sick more often in the dark ages.
Anyone ever hear such things before?
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thetrueone
This part of the bible story always got to me as a bit weird, Jesus making wine for people to get drunk on, why did a perfect unsinful man
do that. A good god would have turned that filthy intoxicant back into fresh and healthy grape juice.
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jam
TTwsyf; You may be thinking of about the "Four Thieves
historic Anti Plague remedy". Original recipe for the Four
thieves formula, included 3 pints of white wine vineger.
Supposedly this remedy work for some doing the black plague.
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badseed
Jesus turned water into wine cause he was just as pissed off as the rest that they had run out. He wanted the party to continue.
Grape juice, ya right.
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losthobbit
If I were Jesus, I would have turned water into an eternal fountain of strawberry milkshake...
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metatron
They didn't put "new wine into old wineskins" because it would go ka-boom.
metatron
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ProdigalSon
Did anyone ever wonder, since Jesus had the power to raise the dead and cure leprosy, that his first miracle would be to appease a bunch of already-trashed party-goers?
It ain't a literal story folks. Thankfully, Jesus didn't diss his mom. "Turning water into wine" has its origination in Alchemy....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy
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