wt 7/1/11: Darwin a racist

by ParadiseCircus 42 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    The WBT$ used to Teach..

    Black Folks would turn White in the New System..

    I recall (as a child) being told that in the New System we'd have the choice of being black or white - I think some peeps just got carried away with fantastic notions. Anyone else heard this..?

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Never heard that one, Middie.

    By the way, who is that handsome lad in your avatar?

    Been meaning to ask you that for some time now.

    Syl

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Unbelievable. They're still at it!

    As a teen I was questioning the teachings, so I started looking up the context of their quotes in my school library. I found tons of misquotes. http://www.jehovahinfo.com/misquotes.htm

    If they want to make a doctrinal claim, just make it--don't lie about others.

    They did it about blood, evolution, medicine, etc......

    And yes they have been blatant racists themselves...

    "The negro race is supposed to be descended from Ham, whose special degradation is mentioned in Gen. 9:22, 25. (From: Zion's Watch Tower, August 1, 1898, p. 230)

    "Noah declared, prophetically, that Ham's characteristics which had led him to unseemly conduct disrespectful to his father...and prophetically he foretold that this degeneracy would mark the posterity of Canaan, degrading him, making him servile. We are not able to determine to a certainty that the sons of Ham and Canaan are the negroes; but we consider that general view as probable as any other." (From: Zion's Watch Tower, July 15, 1902, p. 216)

    "There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world." (From: The Golden Age, July 24,

    "Really, our colored brothers have a great cause for rejoicing. Their race is meek and teachable" (From: The Watchtower, Feb. 1, 1952, p. 95)

    The Watchtower of April 15, 1900 p. 122: "There are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the Watch Tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, financially and otherwise. We have received letters from several of these, who had intended engaging in the volunteer work, expressing surprise that in the call for volunteers in the March 1st issue we restricted the inquiry to white Protestant churches. They rightly realized that we have not the slightest of race prejudice, and that we love the colored brethren with just the same warmth of heart that we love the white, and they queried therefore why such a distinction should be made in the call. The reason is that so far as we are able to judge, colored people have less education than whites — many of them quite insufficient to permit them to profit by such reading as we have to give forth. Our conclusion therefore is based upon the supposition that reading matter distributed to a colored congregation would more than half of it be utterly wasted, and a very small percentage indeed likely to yield good results."
    Zion's Watch Tower 1900 October 1 p. 296-297: "CAN RESTITUTION CHANGE THE ETHIOPIAN'S SKIN?

    The following, from the New York World, is the third we have seen reported. These suggest and illustrate the process of restitution soon due. The item reads:

    "From Black to White He Slowly Turned"

    Parkersburg, W. Va., Sept. 8. It has fallen to the lot of the Rev. William H. Draper, pastor of the Logan Memorial church, of Washington Conference, A.M.E. church, of this town, to give a living affirmative answer to the famous Biblical question, "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his spots?" Though once as black as charcoal, the Rev. Mr. Draper is now white. His people say that his color was changed in answer to prayer. Many years ago Draper was employed by a fair-skinned man, and he was often heard to remark that if he could only be white like his employer, he would be happy. While in the white man's service Draper `experienced' religion.

    From that day forward he prayed constantly and fervently that he might become white. Thirty years ago his prayer began to be answered. He first experienced a prickling sensation on his face, and upon close investigation found a number of small white spots scarcely larger than the point of a pin. He became alarmed, thinking he had some peculiar disease but he did not suffer and aside from the prickling sensation felt nothing unusual. Gradually the white spots became larger and extended themselves, until now, after the change has been in progress for over thirty years, Draper has not a single dark spot on his body."
    Watchtower April 1, 1914 p.105-106: "Recognizing that it meant either the success or the failure of the enterprise of the [Photo] Drama as respects the whites, we have been compelled to assign the colored friends to the gallery, which, however, is just as good for seeing and hearing as any other part of The Temple. Some were offended at this arrangement.

    We have received numerous letters from the colored friends, some claiming that it is not right to make a difference, others indignantly and bitterly denouncing us as enemies of the colored people. Some, confident that Brother Russell had never sanctioned such a discrimination, told that they believe it would be duty to stand up for equal rights and always to help the oppressed, etc. We were obliged to explain the facts, assuring all of our loving interest in the colored people, and of our desire to do them good, and not injury. We again suggested that if a suitable place could be found in which the Drama could be presented for the benefit of the colored people alone, we would be glad to make such arrangements, or to cooperate with any others in doing so.

    […]

    If nature favors the colored brethren and sisters in the exercise of humility it is that much to their advantage, if they are rightly exercised by it. A little while, and our humility will work out for our good. A little while, and those who have been faithful to their Covenant of Sacrifice will be granted new bodies, spiritual, beyond the veil, where color and sex distinctions will be no more. A little while, and the Millennial kingdom will be inaugurated, which will bring restitution to all mankind - restitution to the perfection of mind and body, feature and color, to the grand original standard, which God declared "very good," and which was lost for a time through sin, but which is soon to be restored by the powerful kingdom of Messiah.
  • glenster
    glenster

    Darwin was strongly against slavery, against "ranking the so-called races of
    man as distinct species", and against ill-treatment of native people.[163][VI]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin#Political_interpretations

    According to talk.origins, this is a common creationist quote mine.[15] When
    Darwin referred to "race" he meant "varieties," not human races.[16] (For
    example, in Chapter 1 of On the Origin of Species, Darwin writes "the several
    races, for instance, of the cabbage".) In the passage "there is nothing in
    Darwin's words to support (and much in his life to contradict) any claim that
    Darwin wanted the "lower" or "savage races" to be exterminated. He was merely
    noting what appeared to him to be factual, based in no small part on the
    evidence of a European binge of imperialism and colonial conquest during his
    lifetime."[17] Darwin's passage, in full context, reads:

    The great break in the organic chain between man and his nearest allies, which
    cannot be bridged over by any extinct or living species, has often been advanced
    as a grave objection to the belief that man is descended from some lower form;
    but this objection will not appear of much weight to those who, from general
    reasons, believe in the general principle of evolution. Breaks often occur in
    all parts of the series, some being wide, sharp and defined, others less so in
    various degrees; as between the orang and its nearest allies—between the
    Tarsius and the other Lemuridae between the elephant, and in a more striking
    manner between the Ornithorhynchus or Echidna, and all other mammals. But these
    breaks depend merely on the number of related forms which have become extinct.
    At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised
    races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races
    throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor
    Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between
    man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between
    man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some
    ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and
    the gorilla.[8]
    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Notable_Charles_Darwin_misquotes

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Some scans of what the Society published in the 1920s:

    (Golden Age, November 30, 1927)

    (Golden Age, June 26, 1929)

    (Golden Age, July 24, 1929)

  • 3Mozzies
    3Mozzies

    Great info here *Marking*

  • TD
    TD

    Wow....

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo
    By the way, who is that handsome lad in your avatar?

    I'd love to be able to say my lad - but that would be a fib, lol. He's ''David'' from the Midwich Cuckoos (actor Thomas Dekker)

  • DagothUr
    DagothUr

    wow, oldies but goldies!

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    LOL @ people's reactions to WT teachings!

    Thanks for the information, Middie.

    I don't know anything about movies.

    Here's Mr. Dekker, all grown-up and looking even more handsome.

    By the way, I googled Thomas Dekker in Midwich Cuckoos and up came this thread!

    Tee hee hee.

    Syl

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