by Reality79 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
......God ignored the whole of mankind for 2,000 years and then suddenly decided in the late 1800s to give "da troof" to ole Charlie boy? I was just looking at someone's parody JW channel and the person posed this very same question. I'll admit I've thought about it but not too deeply.
So, does anyone know why "true worship" didn't exist for all that time until God decided to grant Russell special powers to determine truth?
Dark ages...Jo hoover was busy...blah blah.
Isaac
F.
Newton
The time drew near for the wheat to be separated from the tares, yadda, yadda, yadda ...
Syl
This is the one big question I suppressed for 10 years before I reached my breaking point.
Good question. I have another question that disturbed me. Here is a hypothetical situation.
Two people live very similar lives. They were both raised as JWs, and both left. They lived relatively good lives, as most people do. One of them gets cancer, and the other one does not. Armageddon is brewing on the horizon. Ten minutes before the big A hits, the cancer finally kills one of them, and shortly afterward, the second one is killed in Armageddon.
In the new order, the one that died of cancer gets a resurrection, while the Armageddon victim does not. All for just 10 minutes of time and a disease. Does this sound like justice to you?
@Reader1
Some people will say that "Jehovah reads hearts" and if they're both good in Jehovah's eyes the one with cancer will get the resurrection and the other will survive the Big A. I also remember one elder saying Jah sees the bigger picture and will allow some people to survive Armageddon. TBH he was one of the very rare people in the org who didn't have that fire and brimstone mentality of the majority who believe that if you even sneeze too hard you'll get destroyed.
Whoops that was the wrong video, here is the one I was thinking of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzYJcA1-Q60&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
-Sab
Reader1:
Two people live very similar lives. They were both raised as JWs, and both left. They lived relatively good lives, as most people do. One of them gets cancer, and the other one does not. Armageddon is brewing on the horizon. Ten minutes before the big A hits, the cancer finally kills one of them, and shortly afterward, the second one is killed in Armageddon.
In the new order, the one that died of cancer gets a resurrection, while the Armageddon victim does not. All for just 10 minutes of time and a disease. Does this sound like justice to you?
You are right. This doesn't make sense, but no problem because the Bible doesn't teach this. In fact it is totally ridiculous and non-Biblical. Pointers:
1. The Bible clearly shows that things people do in this life will be accountable. Further we have examples of those who lived good lives who are already written down in the book of life.
2. The context of Judgment Day, where the dead come back, both righteous and unrighteous are judged by their moral choices; that is, "books are opened" and they are judged out of the books. Clearly this is a reference to their past lives.
3. Further, the resurrection of the dead, which is Judgment Day, occurs after Satan is destroyed and thus after the millennium. Thus there is going to be no one resurrected during the millennium! But those who died at Armageddon will come back on Judgment Day for the final judgment. As I noted, it is clear many are already written in the book of life and others are already condemned to undergo the second death.
So in your scenario, if the two people were unworthy of the millennium, then both will come back on Judgment Day.
As a rule of thumb, based on Zech 13:8 where a remnant of the Jews, 1/3 come out of the Holocaust, if that is applied to the world of today, only 1/3 of today's population will be chosen to experience the full millennium. 1/3 of those who are found unworthy of the millennium but are not "bad people" will live into the millennium and die of old age. That will allow for a smoother transition for the huge population drop and for a new generation to help supplement.
The new kingdom headquarters will be out of Honolulu. The buildings were recently completed about 4-5 years ago. It's an ideal location and Honolulu is an ideal place for world kingdom headquarters since besides being so temperate, there is a concentration of lodging and meeting facilities already set up. Hawaii was my home for about 11 years.
Anyway, not to worry about yet another misguided concept the WTS has. They have to explain why the 2nd resurrection is totally out of chronological order, which they can't. Likely 2/3rds of the world population will get eternal life, much like 1/3 of the angels rejected God.
I think a lot of people think Armageddon will unleash God's powers over nature to devastate today's world, but in reality, to destroy governments it is only necessary to kill the people loyal to them. So more than likely it will be similar to what happened in Egypt where the firstborn just died one night. In that way, the survivors will have the bounty and spoils of the world, which are promised to them. Why inherit a world that looks like a post-nuclear desert? Great disasters are also hazardous for the righteous too, so it would be easier just to have the wicked get into the shower, then walk into their backyard in a daze then drop dead, making easy access for the birds to harvest them.
Further, with the huge population drop, it will take 7 years before new manufacturing will be needed. With the internet and television, the whole world can keep up with what the messiah is doing on a daily basis, like a reality show.
But no MEAT! I suppose, that if you were going to do something before the millennium would start that you think you might miss, enjoying meat might be one of those things; not that you can't fake a burger, but still...
