Accidentally Leaving a Flash Drive in the KH Parking Lot

by RayPublisher 30 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  AK - Jeff

  I agree that it would likely not be looked at, for the various reasons mentioned, or just tossed out immediately if 'apostate' info was seen. Fear of technology combined with apostate info would prompt that reaction.

  What I think might work is to leave an actual file folder [the old paper sort] in the men's room or under a stack of literature on the counter, so that the elders would be alerted. [Can't you see the scene of panic when it was discovered?] This file would be discussed and likely locked in the elders file cabinet - a curious elder with time on his hands might show up when no one is looking and read the info. Perhaps several would do so over time. Curiosity killed the cat - and my experience is that elders are nosy as hell and would dig through that stuff trying to find a culprit to hang. Who knows, maybe one of them will investigate enough to get out eventually. In the meantime, the entire body would be on high alert - which is fun to watch.

  Jeff
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  Broken Promises

  If you have a saved document of any kind, doesn't it retain details of the computer on which the document was made?

  ie. Computer user's name etc?
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  punkofnice

  Not being neggy, but sounds like a waste of a good memory stick.

  'Spiritual Pornography' is how they'd view it. Apostate attack from Satan himself.

  They'd likely wipe the files, keep the stick and it'd become an 'experience' on the prattform.

  I might be wrong.......................I'm just imperfect men and make mistakes..........................
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  lisaBObeesa

  This idea reminds me of a book I read: "Every Man Dies Alone."

  It's about a man who lived in Nazi-controlled Germany. He wanted to resist somehow, so he wrote anti-Nazi postcards and secretly dropped them around town where others would see them and pick them up.

  He hoped that the postcards would inspire others to resist the Nazis and that maybe the cards would be quietly passed from hand to hand inspiring still others to resist....but instead, almost all of them were instantly turned over to Nazi officals.

  The big question of the book is: was it worth it? Was it a good thing to do even though the postcards were not as effective as he had hoped?

  At first it seems like it was just a dangerous and futile exercise. A huge risk, all for nothing.

  But by the end of the book I had changed my mind.

  I think that however we can, we ought to resist. Our humanity demands that we do something against evil. The only really futile thing is to stay silent.

  (it's a really, really good book, based on a true story. And those postcards did have some effect...just not quite in the ways the man had imagined they would. )
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  sir82

  You realize of course that JWs are so technology-averse that a good 80% of them wouldn't even recognize that it is a flash drive.

  Of the remaining 20%, 90% would drop it in the Kingdom's Hall's "lost and found" and forget about it.

  Of the remainder, 90% of them would ask around amongst their friends "did you lose a flash drive?" and would never think to read it.

  I.e., your plan has about a 1/5 of 1% chance of actually working.
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  lisaBObeesa

  I.e., your plan has about a 1/5 of 1% chance of actually working.

  Most efforts to get people out of the WT have similar odds. And doing nothing has a 100% chance of not working to get someone out.

  But there is a more important reason to drop flash drives or resist however each person can....If we remain silent and do not challenge JWs, we are a part of the big machine of the Watchtower.

  Silent exJWs are a wheel or a cog in the machine of the WT just as much as the elders and the GB and the rank and file members. Silent exJWs play the part given them by the WT.

  99% of the MILLIONS of exJWs out there will not do anything to speak out against the WT or to try to get others out. They just won't. That's why the Watchtower can continue.

  But that doesn't mean the 1% who do speak out or try to do something covert to resist should give up, too. At least the people who drop flash-drives and the people who make web sites and the people who make youtubes and the people who carry signs of protest and the people who resist in some way, no matter how small or secret, are not a part of the machine.

  The resisting itself is the thing. It is only by actively doing something against the machine that we ourselves as exJWs are not part of keeping the WT machine running.

  It is only by resisting our 'role', covertly or not, that we break free from the machine. Otherwise, we are just a part of it.
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  teel

  Lisa, then again there's the role also given by the GB of the "disgruntled apostate". They have all of their bases covered, no matter what you do, you play into their hand. It was often said that living a good life is the best revenge, and even though it is true, the GB even has that covered too - Satan is helping you to stay in his system.

  So just forget about the machine, and do what you feel like doing - fight if you want to, talk when you need to, do pranks on JWs, whatever.
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  lisaBObeesa

  Lisa, then again there's the role also given by the GB of the "disgruntled apostate".

  I see what you are saying, but guess I see it differently.

  I don't see 'disgruntled apostate' is the role they give ex's... I think that is how they paint ex's to the people on the inside (and outside) to keep everyone in their roles. You're not supposed to take on that role.

  If you are an active JW, you are taught how you are SUPPOSED to act if you should happen to be disfellowshipped.

  You are supposed to be quite and invisible and never speak against the org. Those are the JW rules. That is the Org approved role of a disfellowshipped JW. That is the role that is required for the the machine to keep working.
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  Mad Sweeney

  I hate seeing the defeatist attitudes whenever someone floats an idea that might help get people out of the Borg.

  How can you say that no one in the Borg would read apostate literature WHEN ALL OF US DID?

  No offense to anyone but you're not so special that you're the only one who was in the Watchtower who ever read apostate literature. You're not the only one to ever get out. There are many thousands of us, and some estimates would even say millions.

  So what if the odds are 1 in 10,000 that someone would read the flash drive? Or the brochure? Or the www.jwfacts.com sticker on the magazines at the laundramat?

  There IS NO magic bullet to get everyone out but ANYthing we can do to help possibly get someone out is better than NOTHING.

  What if Ray Franz decided it wasn't worth the effort to write his book because JWs are programmed to avoid apostate literature? Or if Randy or Paul decided not to put up their websites? Or if Bill Bowen and Barbara Anderson decided it wasn't worth talking to NBC?

  Jeez people. Even a "hail mary" pass works now and again.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlvOUG8nuZ4

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ykWbu2Gl0

  So, just because it fails most times do you not bother running the play?
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  MidwichCuckoo

  Mad Sweeney - How can you say that no one in the Borg would read apostate literature WHEN ALL OF US DID?

  I was going to suggest the likelihood of the right /random Congregation member finding and looking is slim (and if they did, they'd hand it in to Elders thinking it to be a 'trap' - as they are brainwashed in believing that Satan will try any means etc etc) - it being more likely that a child would find it. BUT, as you pointed out Mad Sweeney, I bet many of us stumbled upon this site by chance (I know I did, and although I'd long since stopped attending Meetings, I never really justified myself leaving the Org...until I accidently found this site while looking for something somewhat unrelated).