JWs Celebrating Brithdays

by Franklin Massey 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • Quendi
    Quendi

    Since leaving the WTS I have given much thought to celebrations of various kinds. I see no harm in observing birthdays, anniversaries, and other occasions like Mother's Day and Father's Day. Christmas and Easter, on the other hand, possess pagan roots and I will have nothing to do with them. That has been known for centuries, and the WTS is hardly the first religion to condemn their observance and celebration. I will also have nothing to do with nationalistic or patriotic holidays because I truly believe that a Christian's first allegiance is to God's Kingdom which is no part of this world.

    I have read others' remarks about how children feel bad when the family will not celebrate a birthday. The solution is to give freely throughout the year and not just on one or two "special days" like a birthday and Christmas. That is what I do, and my friends really appreciate this. I have never been pressured into celebrating Christmas or marking a friend's birthday since leaving the WTS. Indeed, many of my friends tell me how much they wish they could stop celebrating Christmas altogether. I heard that when I was a Witness, and I am still hearing it even when I am one no longer. I will say "Happy Birthday!" to a friend when the occasion arises, but I do so because I want to and not out of a sense of obligation. I will also add that many of my friends do not even know my birthday. That makes the gifts I do get from them even more special because I know they have been given freely and not out of any sense of obligation.

    So take the advice of Jesus Christ when he said, "Practice giving, and people will give to you. They will pour into your laps a fine measure, pressed down, shaken together and overflowing. For with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you in return." (Luke 6:38) I have seen the truth of this, and if we did so, then occasions like birthdays and Christmas would hardly matter. We would be generous with our time, assets, and resources all the time and in such a way that the people close to us would be in no doubt about the love we have for them. My point is that we shouldn't wait for special days and occasions to demonstrate our love for family and friends.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Christmas and Easter, on the other hand, possess pagan roots and I will have nothing to do with them.

    Have you given up everything with pagan roots? Or, is it just the ones that WT doesn't like?

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    Christmas and Easter, on the other hand, possess pagan roots and I will have nothing to do with them.

    Then do you reject the practice of wedding rings too? You may want to stay away from cereal too. “Cereal” comes from Ceres, Roman counterpart of Demeter, Goddess of agriculture, harvest and grains.

    You might want to think twice about baptism too. It too has pagan origins, and yet it was approved of by Christ.

    In Egypt, the Book of Going Forth by Day contains a treatise on the baptism of newborn children, which is performed to purify them of blemishes acquired in the womb. Water, especially the Nile's cold water, which was believed to have regenerative powers, is used to baptize the dead in a ritual based on the Osiris story.

  • Quendi
    Quendi

    Hi LWT and BrotherDan and thank you for your questions because they are relevant and I want to spark discussion on this topic.

    I am single, so I don't wear a wedding ring. If I were married, I would wear one if for no other reason than to let others know that I'm not available. :-)

    BrotherDan, since eating cereal involves basic biological functions and not worship, then I have no problems with that. And that is the thrust of my thinking. Christmas and Easter both involve worship, and I want nothing at all to do with them. Others throughout history have felt the same way about both of these celebrations, not just the WTS, and I am in substantial agreement with their conclusions. I have been baptized twice, as a Roman Catholic and as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I now consider neither ceremony relevant or important in my life.

    LWT, your question is a good one. Let me say that I started this examination with WTS beliefs, but have not confined it to those alone. I believe, for instance, that patriotism/nationalism and genuine Christianity do not mix. The former can and often does lead one to hate our fellow men, and that is not my cup of tea. The issue for me in this examination revolves around my worship of God. I want to avoid beliefs, practices, and cermonies that will conflict with that. I don't pretend that I will find all such conflicts. But I want to have my worship as clean as I can manage it.

    I appreciate your questions and hope I have answered them. More importantly, I am glad that we are talking about these things and sharing different points of view. That is something the WTS would never have allowed, and the freedom we now have is something truly wonderful. My friends, and you are my friends, let us keep on sharing, encouraging, and upbuilding each other.

    Quendi

  • The Finger
    The Finger

    When I was a child innocently I mentioned to a friend at school that it was my birthday. Later that day he came round with his mother with a toy. I was embarrassed and my father wasn't happy.

    In the same period of my life, before the Elder arrangement came in, a brother who would serve on a Judicial commitee had a party for his daughter, some in the congregation brought presents for her. I came to realise this was very close to her birthday. As a child I thought it was a scum bag attitude to celebrate a birthday whilst upholding a religious belief where it is condemned.

    When I had children of my own. I took to buying gifts around Christmas and twice a year in place of birthdays. I was brought up with the notion that we recieve gifts at any time of the year. I never did. I also felt as a child how difficult it was too stand out as different at school, although I did. I reasoned what difference does it make what day I buy gifts on if I dont recognize birthdays or christmas they just happen to be on those days .

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Quendi: Thank you for your response. I can respect your views and your journey. We are glad to have you here, and as you've said, it is a very good thing to have open discussions about these matters. I'm here to learn and I really have done so over the years.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    Christmas and Easter both involve worship, and I want nothing at all to do with them.

    I understand that, but baptism too involves worship. And just because it had a pagan origin, that did not stop John the Baptist from adopting it, and for Jesus to sanction it.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    Here is a blog that I wrote on the subject during Christmas time that examines the Awake article on why it is wrong to celebrate Christmas.

    jwcritic.blogspot.com

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    The article begins with a major strawman. I did not want to begin this article by being critical, but it begins with the stress and negativity associated with Christmas. It seems that the purpose is to introduce a negative light before the actual facts are discussed. Look at how skillfully the writer introduces the negativity:

    "Do you look forward to Christmas? Or does its approach fill you with nervous apprehension? Millions of people ask: "Whom will I get gifts for? What should I buy? Can I afford it? For how long will I be paying off my debt?"

    The obvious intention is to cast a negative light before the article even started. The article continues by saying that Christmas is now largely secular and its ads are "blatantly pitched at children". The article claims that "shopping malls...have become the new temples... Could the reasons be connected with the origin of Christmas?"

    Now a person interested in coming to a true conclusion will look at both the positive and negatives of any given circumstance. This is at the heart of critical thinking. We should cast off all prejudices and examine all sides of any given issue before coming to a conclusion that makes the most sense. Does this article give the impression that it is attempting to do this? I can't say that it does. If it does, I don't see it. Nowhere is there a paragraph that says something like the following:

    "While Christmas has become a secular holiday to much of the world, many Christians are trying to bring a larger awareness to the general public that Christmas should be about celebrating Jesus coming into the world to save us from our sins. They are spreading the message that it is only because of Jesus willingness to come into the world and to eventually die for our sins that we have any hope for salvation today. Are they doing the right thing?"

    If something like this was said, I could at least consider that they were trying to examine all sides and come to a reasonable conclusion. But because the negative light has already been cast, you can be sure that they have an agenda to the article. They are setting out to show that Christmas is an evil and sinful holiday that does not please God.

    They next article begins by introducing another strawman fallacy. It asks, "Do you care about spiritual truth?" Now, the answer is going to be "Yes" for just about everyone. It then goes on to ask 5 questions that you must answer if you are interested in spiritual truth. Reading over these questions brought me to an interesting conclusion about the relevancy of the Watchtower in 2010/11. It is this: Most Christians already know the answer to these questions. And the Watchtower will show through the article that it...DOES NOT! While they cast doubt on all of the answers to the questions, they do not have an answer. They do pretend to have a "possible" or "likely" answer, but they cannot say for sure. I will illustrate this later in the blog. Let us consider their questions that all those that "care about spiritual truth" must answer.

    1. Was Jesus born on December 25? Does ANYONE think that Jesus birth was on December 25th? I can honestly say that I have never met anyone that actually believed that. The article begins with an outright misrepresentation. It says, "According to tradition, Jesus' birth took place on December 25." Actually this has never been a Christian teaching. The celebration takes place on the 25th, but it was never claimed to be his actual literal birthday. The article then goes on in the traditional Watchtower fashion of showing the pagan worship that used to occur on December 25. Again, most educated people know about the Saturnalia and the celebration of the winter solstice. The then begin to vilify "Christianizing" paganism. They wrongly say that Pope Julius I declared that December 25 was Jesus birthday. Notice the lack of quotes. Julius was actually a very important man in Christianity. He took a stand against the Arians that said that Jesus was only a human and rejected Christs divinity. He also did not claim that Jesus was born on Decemeber 25, only that since we do not know the actual date, we will celebrate it on that day. They also link the use of the "halo" to paganism although this was not really the case, as claimed by the "Encyclopedia of Religion". According to Notes on Castelseprio (1957), the early church fathers believed God to be the source of all light. They talked about the "light of divine grace", and in art when the is was pictured it came across as a light above the head of those that possessed this light. God being the source of all light was taught FAR before it made its way into paganism.

    So what is their solution? Do they have another date? No. They rightly show that Jesus was not born on December 25, which we all should have already have known. But do they give us another alternative? No. They use their "likely" and "possibly" answers. They say, "The Bible does not give Jesus' birth date." Interestingly, the Bible does not directly give us any date. We have to go into history to figure out the actual dates referred to in the Bible. But I digress... They say that he would have to have been born before October. Most historians will agree with that. Their major fallacy here is that they say "Significantly, the early Christians never celebrated his birth on ANY date." Where do they come to this conclusion? Who knows. No source is given. That comment wouldn't even hold up on Wikipedia!!! Where does their argument lay? It lays in the scripture John 4:23 that you must worship the Father in spirit and truth. They also say that we were only commanded to celebrate Christs death...not his birth.

    What they are employing here is what is called "hyperliteralism". Hyperliteralism (or letterism) is an intense devotion to the details of the Bible in such a way that one misses the spirit and essential thrust of a passage. We could make the claim that the Bible does not command the wearing of neckties and so the use of such a fashion is not authorized by God when teaching. We could also argue that buildings should not be dedicated because God did not authorize this in the New Testament. The fact is, NOWHERE and I repeat NOWHERE are we forbidden to celebrate Christs birth (or any other birthday for that matter). In fact, those that are condemning others for choosing to observe a day as holy are to be condemned themselves. Notice Col 2:16-17: "Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." If one chooses to recognize a day as holy and one does not, we are not to judge either way.


    To conclude this post, is there anything in the Bible that indicates that we should consider Jesus birth as something worthy to celebrate? I truly believe there is. Jesus birth caused a celebration...AMONG THE ANGELS!!! Luke 2:10-12: But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid! Listen carefully, for I proclaim to you good news that brings great joy to all the people: 11 Today your Savior is born in the city of David. He is Christ the Lord. 12 This will be a sign for you: You will find a baby wrapped in strips of cloth and lying in a manger.” What would bring great joy? "Today your Savior is born."

    Did humans celebrate this birth? Notice Luke 2:15-20: "When the angels left them and went back to heaven, the shepherds said to one another, “Let us go over to Bethlehem and see this thing that has taken place, that the Lord has made known to us.” 16 So they hurried off and located Mary and Joseph, and found the baby lying in a manger. 17 When they saw him, they related what they had been told about this child, 18 and all who heard it were astonished at what the shepherds said. 19 But Mary treasured up all these words, pondering in her heart what they might mean. 20 So the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all they had heard and seen; everything was just as they had been told." Yes the shepherds...CELEBRATED!

    Finally, as much as 2 years later, the "wise men" arrived to worship this child and celebrate the fact that he was born into the world. Notice Matthew 2:1-12.

    Hence, I come to this conclusion. Christs birth SHOULD be special to us. It is something that is deserving of celebration. It deserves celebration more than any other thing (besides his death). How sad it is that Jehovah's Witnesses will celebrate their own anniversaries, and yet will not celebrate our Lords sacrifice of giving up his divine position and coming to earth to become a helpless baby, grow up around sinful humans, and be put to death for those that do not appreciate him? I cannot help but see that this is one way that the Watchtower has put limits on the importance of Jesus. One of the greatest celebrations in bethel was the graduation of the gilead class. It was a time for good food, wine, and giving gifts to the students. But we are not allowed to do the same in connection with Christ's birth. Even his death, according to the Watchtower, is not a time to be festive. The Watchtower took away Jesus divinity. They took away the importance of his birth. They took away the glory of the cross that he died on. They took away his worship. But they lifted themselves up as the ones we are to follow if we want to follow Jesus. How sad and reprehensible!

  • Alfred
    Alfred

    It all about money... money for gifts means less money in the KH contribution boxes.

    Imagine what would happen if the WTBT$ gave the green light and left holidays to everyone's conscience... I estimate that donations would decrease by at least 60%!!! This would send the GB packing within a few months...

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    You know, I wonder about the money argument. You'd think if they wanted more money they would encourage education. We have a lawyer that is an elder in our hall and by all accounts, he has donated millions to the Watchtower. But of course he went to college before becoming a dub.

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