Who are the Pharisees today?

by dothemath 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • dothemath
    dothemath

    I find many similiarities between the Pharisees and Witnesses today........

    both used disfellowshipping as a weapon (John 12: 42........"because of the Pharisees they would not confess

    him, in order not to be expelled from the synagogue")

    both add endless rules, yet forget about the important ones, such as love, etc. (Matt. 23: 23......."disregarded

    the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justice and mercy and faithfulness.")

    both used every opportunity to emphasize their position over the people.......(ex. ......we can no longer have

    a watchtower study without several mentions of the "faithful and discreet slave")

    There are probably many more similiarities, but thinking about it, many Witnesses would have made excellent Pharisees

    back in Jesus' days on earth.

  • Nobleheart
    Nobleheart

    JW are also self-righteous, and think everyone else is below them. "Worldly people" are a failure, have no hope, no happiness, and they will eventually die.

    Same thing with Pharisees: "This crowd, which does not know the Law is accursed people". They thought others were not worthy of respect.

  • mrquik
    mrquik

    You can add to the similarity " a lack of humility". Although always stating that they are indeed fallible, you would be hard pressed to find an apology for mistakes. But, of course, being directed by holy spirit, how could they make a mistake? This is indeed a problem, because the next question is "Who is responsible"? Could the holy spirit be responsible for the 1975 debacle. Why of course not. In fact, the society never really said it would end in 1975. They just intimated that it might. Thousands of lives were damaged and the GB initially blamed the GC for "running ahead". They're like the person that pushes the unmanned car downhill into a crowd & after it kills people claim they are not culpable. As the Pharisees were condemned by Jesus, so is the GB. Another proof that this organization does not now nor ever had Jehovah's holy spirit. There are plenty more.

  • Awen
    Awen

    I would say the GB and loveless elders are the Pharisees. Also having the Holy Spirit doesn't make a person infallible. The Apostles (for example) had it and made mistakes all the time. The Holy Spirit simply gives insight which a person might otherwise lack. It also presents different choices, which we can choose to ignore because of free will.

  • mrquik
    mrquik

    I too, believe that the GC is as Jesus described " skinned & thrown about". The Apostles were indeed imperfect & were candid about it. But when it comes to being the " channel of communication" between Jehovah & man, you are taking on the awesome responsibility of speaking for him. Is it logical for that communication to be wrong over & over again? That " new light" excuse doesn't fly when they become responsible for harming Jesus' sheep. Would that be showing the love that Jesus said would showcase his faithful & discreet slave? Obviously not.

  • JuanMiguel
    JuanMiguel

    Just a thought to process:

    While I understand that this conversation is trying to find some type/anti-type conncetion between the Pharisees of Jesus' day and what is seen in the JWs today, it's not a very kind course to take using the "Pharisee" as a term as one might accuse those who do such as being anti-Semitic.

    All Jews of today come from the Pharisees. Theirs was the only branch of Judaism to survive the Roman invasion of Palestine. The Sadducees' worship was connected to the physicial Temple in Jerusalem, and when it was destroyed their brand of Judaism went with them. When Masada fell to the Romans, the Essenes and all other branches went down with that last stronghold.

    It should also be understood that the Pharisees as depicted in the New Testament is not meant to reflect their branch of Judaism as a whole. By the time the first century ended, the author of the gospel of John was using a generic term, "the Jews," most of the time. The reason? Christian theology was already in development to the point of seeing that while there were enemies to the Christian faith among the Pharisees, these Jews as a whole were not the "enemy."

    In fact, even John's attempt to be generic about the first enemies to the gospel as "the Jews" seemed to receive correction from Christ himself. In Revelation 2:9 Christ calls Christians "Jews" by contrasting enemies of the Church as "those who claim to be Jews and are not, but rather are members of the assembly of Satan."

    It would be best to abandon Watchtower terminology, which is insulting to the basic dignity of people who embrace beliefs and philosophies that differ from the JWs. It would be more accurate to say that the WT acts like those early enemies of the first century congregation. The Jews have received enough persecution through the centuries without ex-JWs adding to the anti-semetic heap.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Who is it that "LORDS IT OVER THEM"? (Matt 20:25)

  • MrMonroe
    MrMonroe

    At Matthew 12:1-8 the Pharisees condemned Jesus' disciples for plucking and eating grain on the Sabbath. Jesus referred them back to the account in 1 Samuel 21 about David eating the showbread and said, "I want mercy, and not sacrifice." The sacrifices contained in the Jewish law were symbols of their debt to God and his provision for them, yet when it came to common sense and survival, God said, "Hey, forget the symbol, man, just eat! Don't die because of a symbolic ritual!"

    Today the Governing Body says blood is a sacred symbol of life. They say it is better to die than to break what they see is God's "law" regarding a symbol, and accept a blood transfusion. What do you think Jesus would say when he saw medical science offering a provision to save a life, but the GB says, "Nope, there's a symbol involved here."

  • boyzone
    boyzone

    A Pharisee today is any legalistic religion that puts rules above love. JW's are one of the most legalistic, unloving religions in existance. They epitomise the pharisee mindset and I believe they will be utterly condemned in the same manner.

  • MrMonroe
    MrMonroe

    They are haters. They hate religion, hate politics, hate "the world", hate "immorality", hate "materialism", hate criticism, hate success, hate fun, hate sentimentality, hate celebrations, and they particularly hate anyone who quits the religion because they're sick of the hatred.

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