Does God Create Evil?

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  • rvalich

    The view held by Christian theology is that God did not create evil. You may argue this point using scripture to support either side. However that argument is but a symptom of a much larger problem which is choice and “free will”.

    The concept among Christians is that sin, suffering, and evil deeds began with the “original sin”. The original sin was supposedly Adam and Eve’s disobedience, which is incorrect. The original sin started with Satan first, and then Adam and Eve second.

    Using biblical logic we can see that God did not stop Satan from disobeying, he merely punishes or will punish Satan. God allowed Satan a choice. Satan in turn proposed that choice to Adam and Eve. Through their actions suffering and evil entered the world of man. The suffering and evil did not originate in reality with Adam and Eve. It originated when God allowed Satan a choice. Satan was supposedly the first creature to disobey. It is only in the world of humans that Adam and Eve were responsible for evil spreading, but Satan, using his option given by God, created evil.

    Ultimately God allows choice or “free will”.

    The bible shows Satan created evil when he exercised his free will to oppose God. That choice that Satan took was offered to him by God. Both God and Satan are necessary ingredients in the creation of evil.

    This is the most important concept and the origin of Gods involvement with the creation or allowance of evil.

    If God created everything then he also created choice, or “free will”, and the ability to act upon that choice, as Satan demonstrated, which creates evil. He allows the capacity for disobedience and sin. Evil is a choice that was made by Satan given to him by God. Satan could never have made that choice if God hadn’t given it to him or allowed it in the same way God gave it to Adam and Eve.

    God must have created and allowed the ability for the two options prior to Satan’s choosing.

    The problem is as follows. In a world with options, someone will take those options. It is in the free will and choices that exists good or bad. In order for the world to be without bad things, the option must be removed or blocked.

    Mostly the objection to this idea is that people think without the option to disobey you aren’t truly free, and God of course wants us to be free. God does not want to force us to obey him. This is faulty logic simply because we are not, and have never been, as humans, truly free.

    I can not transform myself into a dinosaur. I am limited by the laws of physics, nature, and biology. We are not and have never been, as humans, truly free.

    This is not a bad thing. Without the option of exercising evil you are no more limited in any capacity than you were before, in fact you would be better off without that option. You have unlimited other options, why would the removal of the ability to choose evil be equated to slavery?

    Do we truly need the choice to produce evil things for us to be “free”?

    God is very busy in punishing the wicked. Punishment is a negative thing full of sorrow, guilt, and suffering. God participates in punishment, pain, and suffering. He also continues the evil by allowing the choice for disobedience in turn causing him to create Hell, destroy cities, and bring death as righteous punishment.

    My real point is not to challenge the authenticity of the Christian God’s existence, but to point to the idea that people do not know the God they choose to worship. Also that the bible is full of problematic theologies and concepts which create these imbalances in the image we create of God.

    The short answer to the question on both counts is yes. Through choice God creates evil.

    If God created everything, then anything that is possible, or anything that exists, must have been created by God.

  • PSacramento

    For Man to be free to do"good", he must also be free to do "evil".

  • caliber

    You gave the correct answer to your own question here...

    Satan, using his option given by God, created evil.

  • Chalam

    Welcome rvalich!

    James 1:12-14 (English Standard Version)

    12 Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him. 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God," for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. 14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

    Blessings in Christ,


  • ProdigalSon

    Depends which "God" we're talking about.

    Read "Jehovah Unmasked" by Nate Merritt. It's a free pdf download.

  • caliber

    "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good". The potential for love out weighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil (Romans 5:12).

    God permits evil , but he has never endorsed it !

  • Aurelius

    Genesis 2:9 : Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

    Question: who planted the tree of the knowledge of good and bad?

    It almost appears that an opportunity to commit bad (evil) was made available.

    Just some thoughts

  • Lion Cask
    Lion Cask

    Your question presumes two givens. One, that God exists and two, that capital-E Evil exists.

    Whether the motive is greed, lust, fear, hatred, pleasure or just plain survival men do evil because it is inate. In an effort to reconcile the disconnect between the perceived existence of a higher power and the evil done by men it was necessary for man to create a story about how Evil came into a perfect world created by a Good God. And that's what it is. A story. If only people would really analyse it, they would realise how irrational and nonsensical it is.

    The answer is no.

  • The Finger
    The Finger

    God only creates good. We don't understand God.

  • PSacramento

    For evil to exist, there has to be good.

    Evil is a description, a category of how one behaves, it must be measured VS something and that something is "good".

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