Do You Believe Your Government or Political Party Affiliation Is Righteous?

by minimus 19 Replies latest jw friends

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  sd-7

  I see the government as collectively troubled and morally dark gray, at best. They're only righteous in the Machiavellian sense. That is, at best, they can only appear to be righteous, but can never actually be righteous. After all, appearance is all that really counts in politics. I'm more of a middle-of-the-road type myself, but...clearly, the entire concept of government is an unstable framework. We send a handful men to the front to make our decisions for us. And hope that they'll make the right ones. It's...maybe it's necessary, but maybe it's equally naive. Not sure what else to say.

  -sd-7
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  minimus

  So why do people get all hot and bothered over certain people or parties? Nobody is that good, nobody.
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  james_woods

  Just my theory, Minimus, but I think some deploy ther "JW/GB religious zeal" into governmental ideas and treat them much like a religion after exit from the Watchtower.
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  minimus

  Yes, I agree, JW.

  Of course, there are know it alls everywhere.
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  minimus

  Why are ultra liberals so mad at Obama?
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  BizzyBee

  Our government is rife with corruption no matter who is in charge. "Righteouness" implies some sort of benevolent agenda, which usually is far down the list of priorities (witness the travesty of our Congress' failure to provide for the 9/11 first responders and blocking the Food Safety bill in the wake of recent food-borne illnesses).

  In seeking to attain some benefit to the people of this country in return for the high price we pay for government, my vote is usually cast against the party who provides the least ROI. That is perhaps cynical, but at least it is far from the dewy-eyed picture painted of "trusting government to solve all problems." Is there really anyone who is that foolish?
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  VIII

  GrandMaJones said: "No, the government and/or political party can't be rightous, but they can be well intentioned. They can even be well intentioned and wrong. It's an opinion. You have a basic outlook, that in principle, you agree with. At best, that's all it can be, I think."

  Substitute "Governing Body" :

  "No, the government and/or political party Governing Body can't be rightous, but they can be well intentioned. They can even be well intentioned and wrong. It's an opinion. You have a basic outlook, that in principle, you agree with. At best, that's all it can be, I think."

  People leaving a Cult seem to need someone to tell them how to think. Especially seems so with Progressive Liberals. They want and seem to need someone, anyone, to tell them "It's allright. It's OK. We're here for you. We will take care of you. All you have to do is put your trust in US. That is the U.S. Government. We'll tell you how to eat. What sausage to cook. What toy to play with. What seat belt to wear. What vitamin levels are OK."

  See how that works? Progressively more and more Government intrusion and they just suck it up. They ask for more Big Government. Because, just like the Governing Body telling us we couldn't wear skirts or have oral sex, the U.S. Government really does know how to live our lives better than we do. Don't they?

  Just like they begged for the New System to come and wipe out humanity. All so they could pet a Lion and be perfect. In the New System.

  Change is Good.
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  BizzyBee

  Progressive Liberals. They want and seem to need someone, anyone, to tell them "It's allright. It's OK. We're here for you. We will take care of you. All you have to do is put your trust in US. That is the U.S. Government.

  Overstate much?

  Fact is, progressives march much less in lock-step than their counterparts. Witness the recent blow-back on the president from his own party. Why? Because as individuals they disagreed with him. Yet, look at how the GOP has voted as a block to stonewall and bring the government to a standstill.
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  VIII

  Someday you'll be a Libertarian BB. It will like leaving the WTS.
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  FloridaPerry

  While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator was tragically hit by a car and died.
  
  His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
  
  "Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
  
  "No problem, just let me in," says the Senator..
  
  "Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."
  
  "Really?, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the Senator.
  
  "I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
  
  And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
  
  The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
  
  Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.
  
  Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.
  
  They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.
  
  Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...
  
  The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him, "Now it's time to visit heaven.."
  
  So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
  
  "Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity."
  
  The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell."
  
  So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell..
  
  Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.
  
  The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.
  
  "I don't understand," stammers the Senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"The devil smiles at him and says, "Yesterday we were campaigning. Today, you voted.."