I'v got to tell something this!

by voltaire 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • voltaire
    voltaire

    I've posted several times about how I'm fed up with the witnesses but my wife won't budge. She's become a bit more tolerant lately, but mostly we get along better when we don't talk about anything substantive. I've been working up the nerve to tell the elders why I don't go out anymore. I've also been making new friends so I won't be so dependent on the society. That's really the big stick they wield, they can take away all your friends with the stroke of a pen. So I basically don't go to any meetings now, instead I hang out with my new friends. They're awesome! (if you'll allow me to employ teen-speak) At any rate, I now have a new problem, one I didn't really expect. I assumed that my wife and I would just lead our separate lives, she'd do meetings and I'd do normal non-dub things. It's incredibly difficult emotionally to be in my situation though, I feel so distant from my wife. That's obviously not good for a marriage. Another thing that's not good for a marriage is for the two parties to lead separate lives. (Thank you WT for that kick in the teeth, if it were'nt for shunning I wouldn't have begun to have felt the need to look elsewhere for support) Anyway, I met the most beautiful woman from Ecuador last month at a Christmas party(Yes, I did Christmas this year, twice! Did you know that the Orthodox Christians celebrate it in January? note to self When celebrating Christmas with Ukrainians, don't forget to appoint a designated driver) getting back to the story.... She taught me how to dance to the Latin music. It was great! I felt a little twinge of heart-sickness, but I got over it. Except that she shows up another time. When we walk to a restaurant with the group, she puts her arm around mine. That's not so unusal among Latins. ( I'm the only Gringo among them) Sometimes a man and a woman will stroll along that way just chatting, you think there's somthing romantic, but the next week they're all slightly rearanged. They're a rather tactile group. It's nice. The third time I saw her, I offered to pick her up for coffee the following day. We ended up having a rather romantic evening( no sex, but a few kisses)on her couch. Neither of us seemed to set out with any romantic intentions in the forefront of our minds, I (and she) would have probably denied any real romantic interest if you had asked us the day before. But after awhile we seemed to be moving closer, talking, watching TV, playing the card game uno. One of us would sigh and the other would ask what they were thinking. But we didn't want to say anything. After awhile it got to be almost comical. I'm on the couch with this beautiful woman, we're snuggled together, holding hands but seem unwilling to say out loud that anything is going on. We had talked about her life and mine earlier in the evening, so we understand each other pretty well. I'm thrilled, scared, elated, worried, incredibly alive and hyper-nervous all at the same time.

    I know the elders will disfellowship me, and I've known for a long time that that would be the practical end of our marriage. I feel a little guilty. I'm sorry for my wife, she seems to love me. But after struggling for three years, I can't see any other way out of it. If it's not this girl, it'll be another. (I hope it's this one!) It's a terribly vulnerable position to be in. I can't go out in service because I don't want to spread information that I don't agree with, If I sit at home waiting for my wife, I become a JW widower. I'm in my early thirties. It's a little young to call it quits. Plus I'd like to have children. Wouldn't it be nice to not have your little ones come home from the KH with questions like, "daddy, why do you serve Satan?" or "Why is Jehovah going to kill you at Armageddon?" So, I don't know if this has any real point, not exactly a question in there. As the brother says during the bookstudy when he knows he needs to fill time, but can't think of anything clever to ask, "any further comments?"

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    It seems like you already figured it out.

    "No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

  • closer2fine
    closer2fine

    I agree with Mulan. Don't dick around with your wife. If it's over, then be a man and end it. Nothing more hurtful than dragging it out & lying/misleading your spouse.

    closer

    Solid stone is just sand and water, baby
    Sand and water, and a million years gone by - beth nielsen chapman

  • badwillie
    badwillie

    I'm assuming there are no children involved here?
    That would make this sort of a no-brainer - start livin' la vida loca!

  • openminded
    openminded

    Take the same scenerio and add a 6yr old to the equation. Do you guys think that changes things?

  • voltaire
    voltaire

    Thanks for the replies. Good advice about not sneaking around. I'm going to talk to an elder this weekend, lay it all out on the line. not sure how long that'll take, but it shouldn't be too long. Fortunately, there are no kids. emotional distance = Not much sex = No children.

  • Patriot
    Patriot

    Volt,
    Noone can tell you what to do just give you our opinions.

    But I tell you man, when it come to women...I'll be DAMNED if Im giving up my Latin Queen..helllll noo!!

    You know theres nothing left of your wife ..its like when the Borg in star trek take over..thats it..if you hang around you'll be next...resistance is futil!

    Take advantage of whats going on. Don't live your life regretting not taking life by the horns. Damn that..if it's a mistake, you'll learn from it. But you'll never know until you give it a shot.

    It's true you know....All men must die...but few ever really LIVE!

    Mav.-

  • Hmmm
    Hmmm

    Uno gets 'em every time. It's the devil's game, I say, the devil's!

    Hmmm

  • terafera
    terafera

    ((((((((((((Hmmmm))))))))))

    LOL LOL LOL!

    If there was a kid involved, I would say work it out.. it is HELL on a kid to split up.

    If no kid, break up. Life is too short to be miserable.

    Let us know how it goes!! The saga continues..

    __________________________________
    Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a
    garage makes you a mechanic.

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    OM,

    Agreeing with tera here. I've been separated now for about a year and 3 months, and my 3-year old daughter still doesn't understand why I have to keep leaving her! It's all extremely frustrating, but the marriage became totally unworkable. If you can enjoy any regular non-JW activities with your wife and be there for your son (who I know you are close to), by all means do your best to stay. I know it isn't easy.

    Voltaire,

    The shunning thing is an evil device which breaks up families. The JW's teach marriage is from Jehovah, and to keep it together you must talk about ALL important things, including spiritual. But then they make this arm-twisting rule that says one mate cannot speak to another about spiritual things, until that DA'd/DF'd mate re-submits himself or herself to Watchtower slavery once again. What hogwash!

    My marriage virtually ended the moment they DF'd me. My wife spiralled into a bad situation of her own, and I really could do nothing. The elders had taken authority from me and placed it on themselves, the (*&*&'s.

    If someone truly understands you, you have found a rare gem.

    GopherWhy shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense.
    Mark Twain (1835-1910)

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