Does this link set off any of your cult bells?

by Libelle 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Libelle

    I know this isn't specifically a JW thing, but it does seem cultish to me, so I thought I'd ask you. A family member is considering going, and it's just ringing all sorts of bells to me. What about you?

  • JWoods

    Could you describe it a little, for those of us at work who cannot go to unknown links?

  • betterdaze

    Ellerslie Leadership Training

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  • Gayle

    The last sentence, uses "investing." So how much does this thing cost????? Sounds like someone has to go to a 'camp' kind of thing for a 'semester.' (?)

    "Cult" bells ringing!

  • Libelle

    From their application form:

    Code of Conduct

    At Ellerslie Training, we are committed to modeling a healthy, morally excellent, God honoring daily decorum. We encourage and foster an atmosphere of love, honor and respect among both staff and students. Please review the following core values to better understand the atmosphere you will be coming into. At the bottom of this page, please check the box provided as a means of agreeing to help us maintain these values during your time at Ellerslie.

    The Ellerslie staff and students will be expected to uphold the following principles of honor and Biblical morality while participating in all aspects of the training program and campus-life: - Deliberately seeking to honor God in conduct and daily life through dress, language, attitude, and interactions with others. Not participating in any morally questionable behavior or action.
    Approaching the training process with an attitude of expectancy. Diligently participating in all of the required course-work and study, and showing Godly respect to the leadership, staff, and other students.

    - Willingly participating in a "set-apart season" of focusing on Christ and building Godly character, with healthy boundaries around potentially distracting secular activities such as pop-culture entertainment, television, unrestricted internet, etc.

    - Treating members of the opposite sex with honor and respect, and living according to God's pattern for sexual purity.

    - Cultivating a servant's heart and a cheerful willingness to participate in outreach projects, campus work projects, and other forms of sacrificial Christian service.
    I have read Ellerslie's core values and intend to live accordingly to these principles during my time at Ellerslie Training. I understand that during my time at the Ellerslie campus, if I am consistently characterized by behavior opposite of the values described above, I may be asked to leave the program early.

    DOn't know, but it just feels not quite right to me.

  • JWoods

    - Willingly participating in a "set-apart season" of focusing on Christ and building Godly character, with healthy boundaries around potentially distracting secular activities such as pop-culture entertainment, television, unrestricted internet, etc.

    Do they tell you how long this "set-apart season" is supposed to last, or do they just decide that on a per-person as-needed basis that they make up themselves?

    Does that season length have anything to do with how much money you have to pay them?

  • Libelle

    Well, there's a 10 week course that costs just under $4K. But I think that season is something you're supposed to extend to in your life. At least that's what she implied.

  • JWoods

    Well, I am absolutely certain she has nothing to say that I want to listen to for 10 whole weeks even if it were free -

    let alone for four thousand freaking dollars...

    Overall, it sounds to me more like a money mill than a true cult, but you never know; there are certainly some arrogant control freaking issues going on there.

  • nelly136

    looks like an upmarket and very expensive and commune version of an alpha course.

    and they have a whole series of their own brand spiritual for you to buy.

    its just another niche marketing.

  • Libelle

    Yeah, 4K, wayy to pricey. She hasn't the money but thinks god will provide if he wants her to go. Well at least you guys think it's more a money maker than cult. I hope you're right.

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