Dear SweetBabyCheezits, what an interesting post you've written! I read it with lots of interest and anticipation of the end, and I wasn't disappointed. You are very honest and objective throughout the whole account. Thanks for joining and contributing to this board. I don't have many suggestions as far as opening the eyes of family members is concerned. I myself am struggling with my brother and sister; I just can't understand how on earth they don't see it with all the proofs and reasonings I'm presenting to them -yet, they are otherwise quite reasonable-. Sometimes they seem to understand and my hopes raise, but then they take a step backwards again. Oh well, maybe it'll be like the tide, that advances slowly even if it's not obvious to the observer. I wish you all the best.
A, uh, belated introduction
welcome to the board SweetBabyCheezits, glad you and your wife and kids came out all together that's the only support you will ever need... wishing you the best of luck....
You'll see the advantages you're providing for your kids as they grow. Just think, they can be anything they want to be with no expectation of pioneering, Bethel, Gilead, etc. Because of your decision, they can have a normal life, one better than yours. And that's what it's all about.
Welcome! And thanks for the great read. So glad your marriage is on track. I can relate to you giving it a second chance and going full hog, I did the same...alas a few months in I again had my doubts. I don't have a partner to lean on, so am going it alone but am glad to be here for support I know you'll receive the same care and concern here that I have experienced. Once again, welcome!
Again, welcome! (Your user name makes me want a snack.)
Sweet Baby Cheezits said:
But we all know what happens when you try to patch a cracked wall if the foundation is still faulty, right? The doubts resurfaced a few months into my return, despite all of my efforts.
Great analogy! And I am so very, very happy your wife is with you. All the best to you and your family!
welcome fellow deist!
until a few months ago i really couldn't put my finger on what i believed anymore...or where i am at now at any rate.
Thanks for your story and i am glad your family has survived this momentous shift in life.
Thanks for sharing your story with us. How wonderful that your wife finally saw the light.
Welcome to the forum.
Congratulations on getting your family out. That's no easy task.
Older Dub family members like yours and mine have invested so much of themselves into the cult that they would really have to grow a pair to allow themselves to admit their errors. I'm fortunate that I hadn't got baptised before I saw the man behind the curtain, so I'm not shunned. We have an awkward truce that they break every now and again. I just ask them for the king list they haven't written up for me yet and and accuse them of using underhanded tactics if they try to change the subject or assassinate my character to get out of complying with my request. I have made it clear to them that it was not my choice to be brought up in their church (yes, I do use that word) and that I could just as easily have been born to a Muslim or a Plymouth Bretheren and be having the same type of discussion on a different doctrine.
One thing I have learned from my mistakes is to never tell them anything. Only ask one question then refuse to change the subject or let them change the subject. If they say anything that you know is wrong, don't tell them its wrong, ask them to prove it. Leave it in their hands to find the article and read it to you. When a subject comes to a standstill, do not start a new one, don't let them start a new one. If you have only asked one question, they might think about it, if you ask two, they think you are an opposer and vote themselves the right to turn their brains off.
Excellent account - thanks for sharing.
welcome cheezits....excellent telling of your story. My JW mom, who is 66 and has been dub since 1970, will not hear anything about questions about the Org. She just keeps repeating the mantra: "I know its not perfect. We have the Truth®. Where else will we go? Jehovah is still God. The light gets brighter and brighter." **gag**
Q. How do you fight that kind of cult mentality?
A. You don't. They have to figure it out and want to find out something different.
Snakes (Rich )