JW’s Worship of GB vs exJW’s “worship” of Ray Franz

by Broken Promises 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    As JWs, we would have seen the adolation the Governing Body received. Even as far away as Australia, we thought and spoke of them with reverence. After all, they were figuratively at God’s right hand, with the prospect of one day being in heaven with Him. They were Somebody when we were relative nobodies. They represented the Organisation. They live in luxury without the same worries we have – no utilities bills, no cars to worry about, no need to go grocery shopping every week, no job worries, etc etc.

    Some have accused exJWs of worshiping Ray Franz, but it is not worship, but respect. We respect what he had to do in the name of doing what was right. He gave away the adoration and worship of millions around the world, in order to follow his conscience.

    I doubt he ever thought he would become a world-wide name. He was a writer, so he did what he could do best – write a book (then another one) about his experiences. Maybe he thought the books would help a couple of hundred, maybe a few thousand at best. I don’t think he ever imagined how the internet would bring together hundreds of thousands of exJWs together, let alone the impact his books would have on these people.

    He never asked for worship. He didn’t have a group following. In all the years I’ve been an exJW, he’s come across as a very quiet, sincere man who didn’t want the limelight.

    JWs worshiped the Governing Body because of who they were.

    ExJWs respect Ray Franz because of what he did.

    Huge difference.

  • dinah


  • not a captive
    not a captive

    When there are not rigid forms for religion , what Ray did shows me what Jesus has in mind for the greatest being the servant of all. "Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith."

    He exemplified how faith builds the Body of Christ. But he didn't expect obedience or honor. That was for each to give to God.

  • StAnn

    Ray Franz never asked me for anything. He opened up his whole life for me to read so that I might find out the truth about "the Truth" and get on with my life. He did not owe me anything and did not ask me for anything. I truly respect him and everything he has done to try to help those who were mislead, as he was mislead. I respect his dedication and his courage and mostly his humility.


  • etna

    So well said Broken Promises. I too am from Australia and feel exactly as you do.


  • metatron

    One honest brave man vs a cabal of con artists and cowards.


  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    If there is indeed a heaven, Ray Franz is there. I'm fairly confident that Freddy is still at the Pearly Gates with his "Reasoning Book" and "Watchtower" trying to explain his way in. I can just see Peter standing there doing a facepalm at Freddy and giving Ray a high-five as he walks right on in.

  • OnTheWayOut

    Respect for Ray Franz is like respect for the firefighter that saved you and your children by personally putting himself in the position of danger to get you out.

    Ray walked away from a guaranteed ivory tower apartment for the rest of his life because of his integrity. He walked away from further offers of a lifetime monthly stipend. Granted, he would not have been rich but many people compromise for a paycheck or welfare. Not Ray. He made his living off of his two books and was probably never really rich from them, but had a rich life with respect and self-respect.

  • WTWizard

    Do we follow Ray Franz exactly, consulting him every time we want to make a decision? Probably not. In fact, quite a few of us are atheists--Ray Franz is Christian. However, we do value his efforts to set free those trapped in the religion and to help people who are studying or interested to not join in the first place.

    And, since we do not do as Raymond Franz directs us as the witlesses do with their Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger, that is not idolatry. It is possible to honor someone without worshiping them--most ex-witlesses do honor Raymond, whether they become Christian, atheist, or in between.

  • Mary
    JWs worshiped the Governing Body because of who they were. ExJWs respect Ray Franz because of what he did.

    Amen to that. I have no idea how many copies of CoC and ISOCF were sold and I'm sure Ray was never rich off the royalties by any stretch of the imagination. I am glad though, that he lived to see the advent of the internet and with that, the realization that his books have helped thousands out of that damn cult.

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