by cyberjesus 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Sd-7 thread got me thinking!
1) So if Jesus was in heaven and came in 1914 where exactly was he and where is he now? is he on earth? I know is invisible presence but
2) where exactly? uh is he up in heaven? so then
3) what was the point of coming if he was gonna stay up there? he might as well not come until he was ready to actually do things.
4) So what exactly is he doing right now? Just watching us? Freaking Jesus.... answer me please!
Okay I have my bookbag in hand.......JW cap on, let us now 'discern'
Jesus was in Heaven, his 'enthronement' began Aug 1, 1914 when he herald Satan down to Earth, this 'heralding' signaled the beginning of his 'presence'.
*** w75 2/1 pp. 78-79 A Fine Reward for Faithfulness ***
How did Christ appoint the “slave” over all his “belongings,” and how was this a promotion?
Well, shortly after his resurrection, Jesus had gone to a “distant country,” into heaven itself and into the presence of his Father, Jehovah God. After a time of sitting at His right hand awaiting God’s appointed time, Jesus received kingly power over the world in 1914. (Heb. 10:12, 13) Then, in 1919, after a period of inspection, came the time for the Master to reward his faithful “slave.” Finding this servant class indeed thoroughly faithful in feeding the household of faith, Jesus gave the “slave” a new status. The “slave” had been feeding the “domestics,” but now had a greatly enlarged position over “all [Christ’s] belongings.” This included much more than previously. The Master had obtained royal power, and the “slave” would now share in the increased interests of the Master. The faithful “slave” would now be representing and advertising, not a kingdom afar off, but the Kingdom now having all the earth under its dominion. The “slave” now represented the enthroned Messianic king, whose complete rule over the earth for a thousand years would soon begin!
'Apparently/evidently' and "quite logically" Jesus is now awaiting the final word to end this system of things.
Re: If Jesus came in 1914, where is he?
Oh is like If I go out for guys night out and I tell my wife/or gf. Honey I will be back in the morning but I really just keep partying and when she calls me and ask me where I am I say that I am actually at home but in an invisible way? and I appoint my son to represent me in my place?
So Jesus is sitting next to God in a chair? just waiting watching us? And what is God doing? watching him watching us? and the 24 elders are watching god watching jesus watching us?
One last question if in heaven there is no gravity why do they need chairs? Usually we sit so we can rest from but in heaven there is no gravity. So are all of them glued to their chairs floating in space? How do they keep their postion? Is that why God allowed man to invent chairs on earth so we had an idea how chairs are in space? or did he copied his chair after he saw the technology existant on earth. Maybe he liked King Davids style so he ordered one just like Davids since Revelation was written way after the chairs were invented.
Did God manufactured his own chair or did he have jesus built it for him? or the angels? Who invented the chair? When was the fist time someone ever mentioned a chair? sorry Its just a stream of questions :-)
Having a cigarette and staring at the ceiling.
no 'direct' mention of a chair..... Jesus is just 'sitting'. ...... why not picture him sitting criss-cross applesauce....
oddly enough when I searched the CD for 'chair' there is only one reference in the bible: 2 Kings 4:10
"Evidently the logical conclusion would be to accept that Jehovah has his own time schedule for dealing with Satan'...... like everybody else Jesus, Angels, Satan, 24 Elders is 'waiting on Jehovah' to command the great day of Satan's Thousand year time-out.
Okay I have my bookbag in hand.......JW cap on, let us now 'discern'
Jesus was in Heaven, his 'enthronement' began Aug 1, 1914 when he herald Satan down to Earth, this 'heralding' signaled the beginning of his 'presence'.
*** w75 2/1 pp. 78-79 A Fine Reward for Faithfulness ***
How did Christ appoint the “slave” over all his “belongings,” and how was this a promotion?
Of course this (What the JWs teach) is complete nonsense, and here is the overwhelming proof:
http://144000.110mb.com/144000/i-2.html#IV
A) The Jehovah's Witnesses limit the "eternal New Covenant" of Jeremiah 31:31-34 to Christ and the 144,000; this New Covenant kingdom lasts approximately 2,000 years. This is not a Bible teaching.
B) The Jehovah's Witnesses teach, incorrectly, that the real kingdom of God, the 1914 kingdom, began in 1914, but Jesus received only a "subsidiary share" of this kingdom. However, these two kingdoms are not separate kingdoms, and such distinctions are mere fabrications
1) The 1914 kingdom is premised on a faulty date because Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 B.C.
2) The Jehovah's Witnesses' 1914 date is biblically unsupportable
3) The Second Coming of Christ is a future event
4) Christ had all authority when he ascended; he did not receive a subsidiary share 1,900 years later
5) Christ began to rule God's kingdom in the first century, not 1914
6) The book of Revelation does not only "deal with events then future" which is a mere ploy to shift the Lord's Day to 1914
7) Christ's parousia, or Second Coming, occurs after the Great Tribulation has begun, not before, not in 1914. Neither was the New Covenant priesthood established in 1918, but during the first century
JD II
Wait, I am confused now. So he is not here yet? When is he coming then? Where did you get this info? Are you related to CT Russell on any way shape of form?
Jesus came figuratively.
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