Wierd things only ex-cult members notice...

by Tuesday 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • Tuesday
    Tuesday

    So the company I currently work for had a big town hall type meeting. They had all these various parts to them to address subjects in some sort of "fun" way. The first thing was about speech patterns, now maybe this is the ex-cult member in me but the whole thing set off my BS alarm and specifically the Behavior control in the BITE method of cult mind control.

    The meeting continues and I notice it's specifically employing love bombing, then a skit that deals with emotional control. There was a thing which included Information Control and of course Thought control was covered next. You know all in a very "fun" way.

    I'm curious, is this something only an ex-cult member would notice? As an ex-cult member when you notice things like this does it set off your alarms, what do you think you would do in the situation? I'm thinking of approaching my manager to discuss it because meetings like that make me very uncomfortable.

  • bohm
    bohm

    I saw a political debate yesterday where i noticed one part was talking in 'cliches'.
    It pissed me off imensely.

  • Tuesday
    Tuesday
    I saw a political debate yesterday where i noticed one part was talking in 'cliches'.
    It pissed me off imensely.

    Ah, don't get me started on political debates. I can literally list off logical fallacies they use in a row. It's crazy.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Tuesday,

    I know what you mean about your BS alarm being set off by seeing something in a secular setting that employs methods used in the religion. I guess they all went to the same school of "How to Influence and Exploit People". Going to your boss and complaining won't help because it is probably a universal formula that is used. Your boss wouldn't understand anyway. As long as you are aware that these methods are being employed you aren't going to fall under some 'spell'. Just keep telling yourself if that is what you need to do.

    The part about the love bombing really gets me and I am nauseated when I encounter this behavior in settings like you describe. I actually have to control myself from being rude when somebody tries to employ this method on me. (Sorry, been there and it won't work again on me!)

    Being in the religion really gave me an EDUCATION in what not to fall for ever again.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    We had a client customer who held these kind of meetings about once a month. I had to go to one because I was there on site - they required everybody go to it.

    It was very weird - after you have been to the JW assemblies.

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    Hi Tuesday,

    The company I used to work for until recently, although very small, had very cultish ways about them - emanating from the boss man. He's a major control freak - all emails are automatically copied to his computer, no lunch hours taken outside the office unless prior permission is granted, calling in sick is considered disloyal and the best 'you have to think like I think - stop thinking like you think and think only like I think'. Yeah, I'm glad I'm outta there.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    http://www.ex-cult.org/bite.html

    Mind Control - The BITE Model

    From chapter two of Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves

    © 2000 by Steven Hassan - published by Freedom of Mind Press, Somerville MA

    Destructive mind control can be understood in terms of four basic components, which form the acronym BITE:

    I.Behavior Control
    II.Information Control
    III.Thought Control
    IV.Emotional Control

    I. Behavior Control

    1. Regulation of individual’s physical reality

      a. Where, how and with whom the member lives and associates with
      b. What clothes, colors, hairstyles the person wears
      c. What food the person eats, drinks, adopts, and rejects
      d. How much sleep the person is able to have
      e. Financial dependence
      f. Little or no time spent on leisure, entertainment, vacations

    2. Major time commitment required for indoctrination sessions and group rituals

    3. Need to ask permission for major decisions

    4. Need to report thoughts, feelings and activities to superiors

    5. Rewards and punishments (behavior modification techniques- positive and negative).

    5. Individualism discouraged; group think prevails

    6. Rigid rules and regulations

    7. Need for obedience and dependency

    II. Information Control

    1. Use of deception

      a. Deliberately holding back information
      b. Distorting information to make it acceptable
      c. Outright lying

    2. Access to non-cult sources of information minimized or discouraged

      a. Books, articles, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio
      b. Critical information
      c. Former members
      d. Keep members so busy they don’t have time to think

    3. Compartmentalization of information; Outsider vs. Insider doctrines

      a. Information is not freely accessible
      b. Information varies at different levels and missions within pyramid
      c. Leadership decides who "needs to know" what

    4. Spying on other members is encouraged

      a. Pairing up with "buddy" system to monitor and control
      b. Reporting deviant thoughts, feelings, and actions to leadership

    5. Extensive use of cult generated information and propaganda

      a. Newsletters, magazines, journals, audio tapes, videotapes, etc.
      b. Misquotations, statements taken out of context from non-cult sources

    6. Unethical use of confession

      a. Information about "sins" used to abolish identity boundaries
      b. Past "sins" used to manipulate and control; no forgiveness or absolution

    III. Thought Control

    1. Need to internalize the group’s doctrine as "Truth"

      a. Map = Reality
      b. Black and White thinking
      c. Good vs. evil
      d. Us vs. them (inside vs. outside)

    2. Adopt "loaded" language (characterized by "thought-terminating clichés"). Words are the tools we use to think with. These "special" words constrict rather than expand understanding. They function to reduce complexities of experience into trite, platitudinous "buzz words".

    3. Only "good" and "proper" thoughts are encouraged.

    4. Thought-stopping techniques (to shut down "reality testing" by stopping "negative" thoughts and allowing only "good" thoughts); rejection of rational analysis, critical thinking, constructive criticism.

      a. Denial, rationalization, justification, wishful thinking
      b. Chanting
      c. Meditating
      d. Praying
      e. Speaking in "tongues"
      f. Singing or humming

    5. No critical questions about leader, doctrine, or policy seen as legitimate

    6. No alternative belief systems viewed as legitimate, good, or useful

    IV. Emotional Control

    1. Manipulate and narrow the range of a person’s feelings.

    2. Make the person feel like if there are ever any problems it is always their fault, never the leader’s or the group’s.

    3. Excessive use of guilt

      • 1. Who you are (not living up to your potential)
        2. Your family
        3. Your past
        4. Your affiliations
        5. Your thoughts, feelings, actions

    • a. Identity guilt

      b. Social guilt
      c. Historical guilt

    4. Excessive use of fear

      a. Fear of thinking independently
      b. Fear of the "outside" world
      c. Fear of enemies
      d. Fear of losing one’s "salvation"
      e. Fear of leaving the group or being shunned by group
      f. Fear of disapproval

    5. Extremes of emotional highs and lows.

    6. Ritual and often public confession of "sins".

    7. Phobia indoctrination : programming of irrational fears of ever leaving the group or even questioning the leader’s authority. The person under mind control cannot visualize a positive, fulfilled future without being in the group.

      a. No happiness or fulfillment "outside"of the group
      b. Terrible consequences will take place if you leave: "hell"; "demon possession"; "incurable diseases"; "accidents"; "suicide"; "insanity"; "10,000 reincarnations"; etc.
      c. Shunning of leave takers. Fear of being rejected by friends, peers, and family.
      d. Never a legitimate reason to leave. From the group’s perspective, people who leave are: "weak"; "undisciplined"; "unspiritual"; "worldly"; "brainwashed by family, counselors"; seduced by money, sex, rock and roll.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Religion, politics, bad science, health sciences and marketing all use thought control techniques for the same reason, they work on enough people to make a profit.

    Yes, I am more sensitive to mind control techniques than the average Joe on the street.

    Cheers

    Chris

  • Aphrael
    Aphrael

    Elsewhere,

    Thank you for posting part of Steve Hassan's book.

    It was eye-opening

    Aphrael

  • Tuesday
    Tuesday

    I'm in the development stages of starting my own business, but it's so much work and so much of a gamble I wonder if I should just take the easy money I get now. However, this type of stuff has put such a kink in that makes me wonder if I should just go full out and quit here instead of taking the cautious approach by building up my clients before quitting.

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