Not good territory to be found standing on, if youknow what I mean.
Yeah, we know what you mean - more of the "believe as I do or you'll burn in hell, or you're gonna die at Armageddon" rhetoric. Why not just come out and say it?
"The Truth will set you Free!"
by wannabe 17 Replies latest watchtower bible
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WTWizard
I will not hesitate to bash Jehovah Himself--along with the apostle Paul. The apostle Paul mistook Jesus' teachings and confused the Gospel writings. To the extent that Jehovah inspired these men to write this, Jehovah was actually trying to take a second attempt at giving freedom to man (Satan's was the first) and using it to create additional tyranny. I remember that Jehovah's aim is to have global tyranny under Himself--Satan and Jesus both attempted to ruin that tyranny.
As for Satan, he didn't have anyone to confuse and twist the message. Hence, Jehovah was left only with the option to debase Satan for doing his job beyond the call of duty. With Jesus, Jehovah could corrupt the message so it appears that he was trying to spread the Original Sin scam and that he told us to only do as Jehovah told us to.
As for going to hell, I don't give a fxxx. Going to heaven, everything I do would be what Jehovah tells me to--hardly setting me free. At least in hell, I would be free to do as I see fit. The heat will not bother me once I become a disembodied spirit. And that generously assumes there is even an after-life at all. If there is not, then I am even less afraid of hell because the whole thing is a scam set up by God Himself to get us to submit to stagnation and oppression instead of freedom. It is this stagnation that the truth can set us free from.
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mindmelda
The truth WILL set you free....From the WTS! LOL
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Mad Sweeney
"Freedom is slavery"
"War is peace"
"Ignorance is strength"
"2+2=5"
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TTWSYF
I always thought that Paul taught from the knowledge that he was given,[like the rest of the apostles]. Jesus himself adopted Paul as an apostle, didn't he? How can you argue against that?
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TTWSYF
The anti - scripture rhetoric reminds me of some JW position I once read that said 'The bible couldn't have meant that' even though it's right there in scripture. If you believe in God's word, how could you think that you could know better than He?
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Mad Sweeney
I think that's the point, TTWSYF. There is no external reason to believe the book viewed as "The Holy Bible" today is God's Word other than its own claim to be so and the fact that around 20% of the planet believes that claim.
Paul claimed to be chosen by Jesus and people believed him and wrote about it. We're supposed to accept that as proof? L. Ron Hubbard and John Smith have just as good a claim if that's your only standard.
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mindmelda
I don't think Paul or any other bible writer was talking about anything he wrote when he spoke of "inspired scripture".
To the mind of Jews and early Christians, the only "inspired scripture" was the works of the Law and the Prophets. Also, to believing Christians, the words of Christ and his teachings would be considered of divine origin, since they believed Christ was of divine origin.
What Paul and other first century Christians were writing only became "scripture" many centuries after their deaths. How arrogant it would have been for them to believe that their letters to one another and their other writing was "The Word of God".
Only the WTS is that arrogant. They believe the Watchtower is inspired of God, even when it's written by a committee of men who put their pants on one leg at a time like anyone else, and is also largely ghost written by unrecognized and unappreciated researchers.
FEH, the smears on the paper I wipe my ass with is more divinely inspired than their crapola.