SOON is a baloney sliced too thin. WHAT DOES 'SOON' really mean??

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  • Terry
    Terry

    The Watchtower magazine has used the word

    SOON

    on many an occasion to point out to its readership how near Armageddon really is.

    A word that can mean anything, in effect, actually means nothing.

    Consequently, let's examine what "soon" actually means by definition and use.

    There can only be three stages of time:

    Before

    During

    After

    Wouldn't you agree with that? Pretty simple.

    If some event happened in the past it was BEFORE now.

    If an even is happening now it is occuring DURING your reference to it.

    Once the event has passed you talking about it would be AFTER.

    Okay?

    But, what if an event has not yet happened?

    What if the event is scheduled to occur?

    How could refer to the proximity of the near event IF YOU DON'T KNOW exactly when it is scheduled to take place?

    Could you mention the event with any precision at all?

    Stop and think about it.

    You either know when or you don't.

    If you use a word like "SOON" it would have to indicate some knowledge of "when" automatically.

    A child asks his Mom when they will go to the zoo. the Mom says "Soon."

    When is soon? It is a vague word, after all. Could the child reasonably conclude going to the zoo would take place within his lifetime?

    What if his Mom never took him to the zoo after telling him "Soon"??!!

    Would his Mom be guilty of misleading him? Forgetting? Lying?

    What would you make of it?

    Is the word "SOON" just a way of keeping somebody in a state of anticipation and readiness without a timetable?

    Is it a ruse? A trick? Or, is it merely a tool of conversation to imply something could and might happen in such a short space of time that it might be prudent to keep the impending event uppermost in one's mind?

    Either way: if an event is accurately termed as occuring "SOON" it has to happen within the lifetime of the person hearing it.

    Otherwise it is a misleading and utterly cynical statement.

    Thanks, Watchtower for misleading and lying about Armageddon.

    Examples:

    "During the past fifteen years, in obedience to God's commandments, Jehovah's witnesses have been giving this testimony to the nations....The Scriptural evidence and the physical facts strongly indicate that such witness work is now almost done, and when it is done the universal war will begin. Universal war is absolutely certain to come, and that soon, and no power can stop it.... During the few remaining months until the breaking out of that universal cataclysm the powers that rule the nations of the earth will continue to make treaties... They will continue to persecute and oppose Jehovah's witnesses who are trying to get the truth to the people" (Universal War Near, 1935, pp. 26-27)

    "Can we do better in April? The enemy is now hastening the nations to Armageddon, and Christ Jesus is separating the sheep from the goats" (The Director, April 1936, p. 1).

    "It is not for them to know just how soon the curse will fall, that is to say, just what hour or year Armageddon will take place. They certainly know that it cannot be far removed from the present day, because that work marked out for them, and which they are doing,immediately precedes Armageddon" (Watchtower, 1 December 1936, p. 365).

    "All witnesses for the Lord must be unusually diligent to carry the truth to the people now, and this work must be completed before Armageddon, which will follow shortly after the Hierarchy has reached the zenith of its arrogance and power" (Informant, May 1937, p. 1)

    "If anybody acquainted with God’s Word and the present-day events has any doubt about the approaching battle of Armageddon, the activities of the old harlot throughout the earth should fully convince him. In every country Catholic Action is being pushed against God’s kingdom. This of itself is evidence that Jehovah is permitting the enemy to go his limit now, just before Armageddon... [W]ithout the aid of the radio (which is still completely State-controlled and will probably so continue until Armageddon) or of sound cars, and with only a very limited number of phonographs yet available, we have still been able to keep our ground [in Sweden]" (1938 Yearbook, p. 159, 189).

    "Would it be Scripturally proper for them nowto marry and to begin to rear children? No is the answer which is supported by the Scriptures.... Those Jonadabs who nowcontemplate marriage, it would seem, would do better if they wait a few years, until the fiery storm of Armageddon is gone" (Face the Facts, 1938, pp. 46, 50).

    "JEHOVAH’S faithful people on earth publicly emphasized the importance of the dates 1914 and 1918 and 1925. They had much to say about these dates and what would come to pass, but not all they predicted came to pass. The predictions, as to the dates, were correct, but what came to pass could not be fully seen in advance. The failure to come to pass of some of the things predicted has afforded Satan’s agents in 'Christendom', particularly the clergy and the 'man of sin', an opportunity to ridicule and reproach the faithful servants of the Most nigh God, and to say of and concerning them and their published statements: ‘All their visions and predictions have failed; and such proves that they are all wrong, and that all their predictions for the future must fail.’ ...To be sure, no man can say precisely what day or year Jehovah’s battle at Armageddon will be fought, but it is easy to be seen that now conditions among the people are such as to indicate that a great crisis is near. ... God’s kingdom has begun to operate. His day of vengeance is here, and his terrible battle at Armageddon is near and certain to fall upon 'Christendom', and that within an early date. God’s judgment is upon 'Christendom' and must shortly be executed.... Jesus gave answer to the question as to what should come to pass at the end of the world, and he said that, following the World War, which began in 1914, false prophets and false Christs would arise. False prophets and false Christs’ being thus mentioned together shows that there would be co-operation between the false prophets and the false Christs in their opposition to the truth of God’s kingdom message. The ‘evil servant’ class claim to be the anointed of God and, these being false, they are therefore false Christs....Those once enlightened by the truth and taken into the covenant, and who are in line for the kingdom, and who now refuse to testify to Jehovah’s kingdom, and oppose those who are so doing, by their actions declare that ‘the Lord has delayed his coming’ " (Watchtower, 1 September 1938, pp. 269-270)

    "The enemy has rapidly closed in on the Lord’s people during the year. The witness work, as far as being openly and actively done, has been destroyed by the gangster Hitler and his cohorts, directed by the great adversary Satan, in Czechoslovakia, Germany, Poland, Luxemburg, Austria and Danzig. Still there has been some individual work done by faithful servants of Jehovah in these lands. The Society’s property has been seized in the countries of Austria, Poland, and Czechoslovakia, and many of the servants of the Lord have been driven out of the land. It is quite evident that the witness work is near an end in continental Europe, and this is further proof that Armageddon is near at hand.... One brother writes: ’Jehovah knows that our company had not a sound-car. It is doubtful if we shall have it before Armageddon. For that reason he has blessed our company with more than usually strong rowers, and boats, and provided us with a territory very rich in lakes' " (1940 Yearbook, p. 132, 192).

    "The prophecy of Daniel, at the eleventh chapter, proceeds to detail the struggle between the 'king of the north' and 'the king of the south', and definitely tells of the everlasting end of the totalitarian rule and that the Axis combine, the dictatorial rule,shall soon cease for ever...While the two kings, 'the king of the north' and 'the king of the south', engage in the most deadly and destructive war of all time, the God of heaven sets up his kingdom... [T]hese present-day events will be quickly followed by the complete destruction of Satan's rule, there shall follow quickly "the battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Comfort all that Mourn, 1941, pp. 16, 21).

    " 'The year 1940 is certain to be the most important year yet, because Armageddon is very near.' It behooves all who love righteousness to put forth every effort to advertise THE THEOCRACY while the privileges are still open" (Informant, May 1940, p. 1)

    "Dictators and their allied enemies prevent the convention extending to countries outside of America. That is a greater reason why persons of goodwill in America should now assemble together to comfort and edify each other. There may not be many more such conventions before Armageddon. Those who love the Lord will do what they can now to aid others to see and to appreciate the great convention that shall follow Armageddon" (Watchtower, 1 June 1940, p. 172)

    "The Watchtower clearly proves that Armageddon is not far off. It therefore behooves all of the anointed and their companions to work with even greater diligence than ever before while it is still day. There is no time now to slack the hand. We should have at least 60,000 model studies going every week. That is only an average of one model study per publisher. It can be done, and if each one realizes his responsibility to The Theocracy he will put forth every effort to attain this quota" (Informant, September 1940, p. 2).

    "Whether it shall be the Lord’s will that another Yearbook be published before Armageddon, of course, no one can say. What the immediate future holds it would be unwise to try to predict. All the surrounding circumstances, however, indicate that the battle of Armageddon is near at hand, which means the end of wickedness in the earth and the full ushering in of righteousness.... The trying experiences of the year past, the persecution and reproach of God’s people by the enemy, and which persecution daily increases, testifies that we are near Armageddon and that soon we shall see a complete change. The present time is the day ’when the wicked spring up as the grass, and when all the workers of imquity do flourish’. Never at any time has there been such wickedness and lawlessness against Christians in America as today....Comfort and aid those of good-will. The day of deliverance is near!" (1941 Yearbook, p. 246, 249).

    "Cartons of Children that had been deposited in The Arena were now opened, and Judge Rutherford instructed the children how to come and each get a copy thereof.... Never was there a more moving sight in these "last days". Many, including strong men, wept at the demonstration. Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord’s provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon" (Watchtower, 15 September 1941, p. 288).

    "Just how long thereafter THE FINAL END comes is not revealed to creatures up to the present time. No one has authority to attempt to say just what day or hour THE FINAL END arrives.... Today (1941) "the king of the north" is easily identified as being represented in the so-called "Axis powers" composed of Greater Germany, Italy, and the Roman Catholic Hierarchy, with chief offices at Vatican City. Here again politics and religion, or demonism, form a combination to rule and to keep the people in ignorance of Jehovah’s gracious provision for mankind. The chief objective of this present-day ’king of the north' is world domination.... The undisputed facts show that Hitler and his allies are moving forward with that very purpose in mind.... The Bible and physical and historical facts plainly identify "the king of the south" as the world ruling-power that claims the right to rule and rules in the name of Democracy.... "The king of the north" and "the king of the south" are both violently opposed to each other, and both claim the right to rule, and hence both are seeking world domination.... "And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over." (Dan. 11:40) At this point of the prophecy of Daniel it appears that the fulfillment thereof relates particularly to the time beginning in the summer of 1939 and continues thereafter. At that time "the king of the south" took the initiative and "the king of the north" was warned by "tile king of the south" that the invasion of Poland meant war.... This was the kind of ’lightning war" staged by the Nazis against Poland, Holland and other countries. The attack was made, obviously, under demon timing and direction. All the attacks of "the king of the north" strongly indicate that Gog, the demon field marshal of Satan, is directing the blitzkrieg, or lightning-war....It cannot be taken to mean that the British Commonwealth of Nations or the United States of America, and the other Americas, will be wiped out by "the king of the north". In fact, the prophecy does not disclose which of these 'kings' will be victorious in the present war, but the opinion is here expressed that neither one will have a complete victory. The end of the war will come about in a manner somewhat different from what worldly prognosticators say... Will the present world conflict between the "Axis powers" and the so-called "democracies", the opposers, end in a decisive victory for either side? The prophecy indicates the contrary result; and since we have no way of determining the future save by the prophecy of God, as set forth in the Bible, we know that that way is correct. All the prophecies and the present-day facts indicate that the contending nations will before long enter into some sort of peace treaty.... Then the proclamation of world peace by that combined ruling power, particularly the religious element, will be made.... By the time that "Peace and safety" proclamation is announced the totalitarian, demonized rulers will conclude that everything on the earth is well in hand, and that Jehovah’s witnesses and companions are safely tucked away. But when the emphatic message is heard by them from ’the north and the east’, that is, from Jehovah and Christ Jesus, the demonized ruling elements will conclude that they must completely rid the earth of Jehovah’s witnesses.... That battle of the great day of God Almighty will bring the demons’ rule to its final end. That battle is not to be fought between "the king of the north" and "the king of the south", because at that time all nations will be absorbed into the demon-controlled totalitarian rule. The great and final fight is the battle of Armageddon, in which Christ Jesus, the glorious King, makes war upon all the forces of Satan, both visible and invisible. The totalitarians’ structure is what is now called "the new World Order", "the new League of Nations"; and those rulers expect it to endure forever. (Watchtower, 15 September 1941, "Demon-Rule Ending, Part 1", p. 278; 1 December 1941, "Demon-Rule Ending, Part 6," p. 355, 358; 15 December 1941, "Demon-Rule Ending, Part 7," p. 372-373, 375-376).

    "Those who love God and his Kingdom pay no attention to this great opposition and move ahead with the one thing they are commissioned to do, namely, 'comfort all that mourn,' in this time of world distress culminating in Armageddon" (1942 Yearbook, p. 216). (quotations assembled and emphasized by Leoleia)

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    I keep askin' this question and I never get an answer. Always the silence. I told my Dad that JWs lose credibility when they say 'soon', 'close, 'on our door step' and the Big 'A' is a no show. The JWs have been cryin' 'Wolf!' for over 130 years. So glad I didn't listen all those years ago when I was counselled not to go to College.

  • Cadellin
    Cadellin

    Yes, but remember, they're imperfect men. How can they be faulted if, in their zeal for righteousness, they allowed themselves to speculate. The important thing is that they remained on the watch! And this while the wicked world under Satan's control continued to spiral into ever greater ungodliness.

    Now, think, Terry: Would you be upset if you had hired a watchman to patrol your estate and he awoke you in the middle of the night because he believed intruders were present? On the contrary, you would praise him for his diligence! In the same way, the faithful and discreet slave have been keeping an ever vigilant watch on world events as they continue to worsen...

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  • Cadellin
    Cadellin

    Okay, that was really hard to do. But honest to God, that was the line of reasoning at last year's DC. Unbelievable.

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    "Would it be Scripturally proper for them now to marry and to begin to rear children? No is the answer which is supported by the Scriptures.... Those Jonadabs who now contemplate marriage, it would seem, would do better if they wait a few years, until the fiery storm of Armageddon is gone" (Face the Facts, 1938, pp. 46, 50).

    Oh, does that bring back memories, and they're not pleasant. Bob Martin, Marshalltown, Iowa, listened to Rutherford speak to him and many other young ones at a district assembly in those years. Young Bob's resolve, then, was to heed that advice.

    Fast forward 21 years and my new wife and I got an apartment in the same complex where Bob lived. Bob, now in his mid 40's and with age lines on his brow that were matched by his perpetual sadness, was then a custodian at Marshalltown's soldier's home, the subsidized housing for indigent veterans. He paid us a visit and then related his experience, the one from that assembly, which oozed disappointment and bitterness. New wifey and I were somewhat shaken after Bob left our apartment, comparing our new life to the youth which Bob had obviously sacrificed.

    It wasn't long before Bob showed up at the Kingdom Hall with his new wife Mary, a co-worker at the same soldier's home where Bob worked. It wasn't long before Bob and Mary stopped attending altogether. We thought it sad that Bob wasn't strong enough to remain faithful to the organization.

    We hadn't been, however, in Bob's shoes -- listening to Rutherford bold statements at that district assembly.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Now, think, Terry: Would you be upset if you had hired a watchman to patrol your estate and he awoke you in the middle of the night because he believed intruders were present? On the contrary, you would praise him for his diligence! In the same way, the faithful and discreet slave have been keeping an ever vigilant watch on world events as they continue to worsen...

    Interesting glimpse into the precision-crafted logic of the insuperable FDS who CHANNEL GOD.

    What they are covering up with this false analogy is most telling, indeed.

    The Governing Body/FDS are agents REPRESENTING the will and message of Almighty God through his son and the King of his Kingdom.

    They are officially declaring their warnings IN THE NAME OF JEHOVAH.

    When they are wrong they STUMBLE the little ones.

    The public at large think to themselves, "Hmm, 1975 didn't bring doodly-squat! JEHOVAH'S Witnessess are liars." Whose Witnesses?

    Who gets the blame for their false alarms? JEHOVAH.

    It holds Jehovah up to ridicule.

    They leave that part out.

    What makes JW's any different from every other false religious crackpot that sets a date is embarrassed in public?

  • moshe
    moshe
    - the faithful and discreet slave have been keeping an ever vigilant watch on world events as they continue to worsen...

    Your statement has no supporting facts, so it must be personal opinion. The facts show otherwise, in that life today is not worse than yesterday and maybe much better on average. Would anyone want a dog in their house that barks at 2 am every night?- because he is being vigilant about every noise he hears- just to be safe, master. No, I think not.

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Cadellin, that was awesome :)

    I'll use the same analogy:

    You hire a watchman to wake you up if he sees, feels or hears anything out of the ordinary.

    He wakes you up in the middle of the night for the first time. You are so happy that he woke you up even though it ended up being nothing and are proud that he's taking care of his assignment!

    A few weeks later he comes bursting into your room and wakes you up again. You go and check on his findings and get another false alarm. It's to be expected with such a diligent watchman! No matter, you can get back to sleep pretty fast.

    The next week he wakes you again, this time adamant that he's found something wrong. You rush out to see nothing. This time he urges you to be cautious, that there is something seriously wrong. You shake your head and think to yourself that you are lucky to have such a perceptive watchman, he obviously can see and hear things that don't even occur to you! Surely you would be dead without his protection!

    A few days later he wakes you again... This time, urging you to get a extra pack of clothes and leave as soon as possible. You ask him why and he stresses the point that he is the professional here and there is no time for questions. You make haste and leave your house for a few days and lay low. The whole time you are beaming with pride for choosing such a perceptive protector. He tells you that you cannot go back to that house, that you have to live somewhere else. You comply.

    Two weeks later he shakes you violently awake and urges you to stay awake for the rest of the night and hands you a sharpened knife. Again, there is no time for explanation and he urges you to trust him. So you stay awake all night clinging to consciousness as hard as the knife hilt in your hand. When morning comes you ask him if you can go to sleep, he reluctantly allows it.

    A few months go by of similar events and at this point you are starved of sleep and basically a walking zombie. You begin to wonder if all this is worth it, since you have never actually SEEN anything wrong, you have been taking it all on the good word of a professional.

    So you decide to talk to him about it, when things are not as urgent, which are times few and far between.

    You tell him that you have been thinking, that maybe a few of the stressful nights past have been false alarms and that maybe you and him could set up some ground rules about what kinds of things have a need for waking you up, you are losing a lot of sleep.

    He becomes very angry at the very mention of this. He argues that you know nothing of late night protection, and nothing of the dangers of that time of night. He tells you that if you try to tell him to do his job that he find someone else to protect and you will die the first few nights while he is away. You try to explain that you are not questioning his competency, but just trying to help fine tune things to make life a little less stressful.

    He has none of it and threatens to leave again. At that point it hits you like a ton of bricks. He's been robbing you for months!

    When you confront him about your missing items from your house he says he has to go to the bathroom and is never seen again.

  • Terry
    Terry

    While we are indulging analogies.....

    How about being hooked up to a heart monitor that blinks out every once in awhile resulting in emergency nurses applying electric defibrillator paddles to your chest!

    How long would you be grateful that machine was there to protect you?

  • sir82
    sir82

    A few months go by of similar events

    A few months?

    How about a #$%$%$! watchman who wakes you up every night for 130years!

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