Help over BOE letters

by JWFreak 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • JWFreak
    JWFreak

    Just a quick question for some help.

    If a person was able to log into the jw.org website using a personalised user name and password given to them by the WT computer services dept, would the borg be able to tell what websites that person had visited, what information would they be able to glean off his computer? Can they track the computer etc?

    Any advice welcomed...

    Thanks

    JWFreak

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

    JWFreak,

    I am copying and pasting one of my engineers' response to your question:

    The answer to your question is, no, unless you allow the jw.org site to load cookies onto your system.

    If you have to allow cookies to enter the site, then you can do so and then delete those cookies after your visit to the site is over. Then, when you return to the jw.org site, let it load its cookies again for the duration of that visit. When you log off, delete the cookies as before.

  • JWFreak
    JWFreak

    Thank you Marvin

    That is a weight of my mind...hoping you are ok

    JWF

  • besty
    besty

    install Firefox and then install the Tor addon

    this will anonymize your browsing to a reasonable degree - note that Tor is not anti-virus, malware etc - just anonymous browsing

  • TJ - iAmCleared2Land
    TJ - iAmCleared2Land

    You have no need to be worried; unless the jw.org site installs an ActiveX control or something like that on your computer, they can't read your cookies from other sites.

    http://www.perlservices.net/en/faq/cookies.shtml#nine

    When a cookie is written to your computer by jw.org, only jw.org can read it--yahoo.com can't read it, google.com can't read it, and neither can any other site. Vice versa is also true. Your browser enforces that security--it will only return cookie data to the site that originally wrote the data. And, without an add-in ActiveX or Java control that you "allow" to be installed, a site can't tell what your browsing history is, either.

    If you're really paranoid, use the Chrome (http://chrome.google.com) browser's Incognito window, or the Tor Firefox add-in, or run a program like CleanUp that deletes all previous cookies and browsing history from your system before you log into the jw.org site.

    For the truly paranoid, install a Virtual PC image on your computer, or setup a totally separate physical computer, and use it for NOTHING other than logging into jw.org.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    It is very possible that they could tell what page you navigated from, so always navigate from a blank page, or one that you want them to see.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Black sheep, to clarify, is it possible that the jw.org main page is seen as the page you navigate from when you log in? Or would the cookie kick in before logging in?

    Also, would that only apply to clicking a link? Or would they even see your previous page if you typed in the jw.org address or used a bookmark?

  • leec
    leec

    Wait wait wait a minute. If you're talking about downloading from a server administed by WT personnel, they can very easily tell what is downloaded. There are various logs, among them an ftp log, and an http log, that can record every event where incoming computer at IP address xx.xx.xx.xx downloaded file at file path /root/folder/file.doc ... etc.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    That's not the question, leec. He's supposed to download stuff from their server as an elder; they have no problem with that because that's why he has the logon and password. He wants to know whether they can see stuff from other sites that he's downloaded or visited.

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    You could always log on from another computer, such as an internet cafe and then save the letter to a USB stick or email it to yourself.

    Google Chrome has an incognito option that deletes your cookies and history each time you shut it down, so may be a safer way to log in.

    It would be illegal for them to install a keystroke tracker or similar spyware on your computer and track what you do, so I doubt they would run the risk of such bad publicity.

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