Doesn't the WTS say that blood can't carry oxygen for the first 24 hours after a transfusion?

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  • TD
    Research indicated some time ago that the rapid fall in 2,3-DPG activity can be delayed significantly by cooling whole blood units after bleeding.

    Thanks Gerard! I appreciate your expertise. The "day or two" comment came from an interview with a representative of United Blood Services about a year ago. --That they were often only 24 - 48 hours ahead of hospital demand. I imagine that would probably vary by locality?

  • Gerard
    “We are only now starting to realize what happens to blood when it is drawn out of a human body and sent to the blood bank for storage. Blood undergoes changes profoundly, even in the first 24 hours. The major effect is loss of nitric oxide, which is really fundamental to the process of oxygen exchange.” --Justpassing

    Dear justpassing, your quote is alarmist and misleading. Vasoconstriction is a normal physiological response to severe hemorrhage, caused not by blood transfusion but by the human body itself as an attempt to raise blood pressure to vital organs.

    A vasodilator (nitric-oxide synthase or nitric acid?) can be applied separately, depending on the patient's body mass.

    The issue is like that of blaming your car becuse it has no kitchen to cook the food you just loaded at the market. The car is only a vehicle to transport it from the market to your house. Similarly, the blood transfusion will only replace lost cells; if the patient needs more volume, you add isotonic solution, if he needs vasodilators, you add them; if he needs additional oxygen, you supply it; need clotting factors, you apply them; need platelets, you apply them, etc. There is not one medication cocktail that will manage all your physiology upon transfusion....although biotech companie$ would want you to believe you need it.

    The documents i have come across regarding nitric oxide in banked blood for vasodilation or platelet activation are all sponsored by biotech companies that want to sell their drug cocktail. Of course, their view is commercially slanted for finantial gain from a "ready to sell" product" that most patients will not benefit from.

    Unfortunately, the WT is ready to blow such alarmist commercial claims out of proportion for their own benefit.

  • TD
    Yes, the end all, be all to the argument for a JW is that the "bible says to abstain from blood"...period. That should be their only argument...period.

    Unfortunately, for the rank and file dummy:

    1. The NWT does not say, "to abstain...from blood." It says to keep abstaining from blood. --Big difference.

    2. The Patterson information desk will admit over the phone that the teaching is therefore a modern-day interpretation, and not a matter of direct adherence to biblical command.

  • justpassing

    @MsDucky"I'm going to have to bone-up on blood transfusions again. I guess new stuff is coming out."

    Yes, excellent idea, I recommend that to everyone. Lots of new studies are being published (see the latest one below). Don't forget to checkout for lastest news and discussion regarding this topic.


    "Nobody gives a packed cell transfusion just for fun."

    No, of course not.

    Published Study Demonstrates Patients with Low Hemoglobin Levels Can be Managed Without Blood Transfusions

    You also mentioned something about financial gain. Remember that blood itself is a billion $ business. Blood banks do very well out of their "excesses over expenses". Would it really surprise anyone if profit is being put before people?


  • Gerard

    Justpassing, a chronic anemia, mosquito bite, broken nail or cat scratch may not need a blood transfusion and you can quote thousands of articles about it, but that does not face the reality of its value following a sudden hemorrhage. What part of emergency transfusion you don't get?

  • kurtbethel

    Such a claim is not relevent, and is an evasion of the real questions.

    Does tranfused blood have the ability to save the life of a patient?

    Will some patients who refuse blood because of religious dogma die because of their decision?

    How can one avoid the bloodguilt incurred by an organization teaching things that lead to people's deaths?

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