An atheist and a creationist are walking along a riverbank . . . .

by nicolaou 46 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Excellent illustration. The same reasoning applies on the universal level, ie, to the universe.

    DD

    Natural processes formed the same way that the river formed, they are things that worked successfully. Likely, the processes that you refer to came into existence coinsiding w the birth of the universe. We could say that it was a successful universe. We don't know how many aborted universes, so to speak, there were, the unsuccessful ones, because there were not the right processes or laws coming into existence along w them.

    A look at the different kinds of stars and all the different processes in which they are involved also demonstrate success and failure by natura;l processes. Many of them do not work, ie, stars explode without ever getting nice planets orbiting them. Many gas balls never make it to stardom. Many other examples are there to be seen.

    As well, our own solar system and how it was formed show the same principles as the river illustration. Basically it startted from a gas ball and a bunch of asteroids, rock chunks and some comets. Out of this chaos emerged the various planets, the oort cloud, sun, etc. Mars was close, but no prize. Earth, of course, did better. But again, it has been shown that natural processes did eveything to bring the earth to where it is today.

    S

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog
    What has been designed: process or product?

    Both!

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    S

    We don't know how many aborted universes, so to speak, there were, the unsuccessful ones, because there were not the right processes or laws coming into existence along w them.

    What are you talking about? Have you seen evidence of other universes?

  • Psychotic Parrot
    Psychotic Parrot

    You should read up on current physics, you'll find it interesting.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog
    You should read up on current physics, you'll find it interesting.

    I have and I do!

  • quietlyleaving
    quietlyleaving

    can you step into the same river twice...

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    S, "Many gas balls never make it to stardom."

    Really, only one gas ball needed to make it to stardom... Jehovah.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    DD

    ' What are you talking about? Have you seen evidence of other universes? '

    You don't understand what i'm talking about. There is talk among some scientists of a macroverse. Anyways, as a believer in a god for whom there is no evidence, it's surprising that you would ask that.

    S

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    S

    Anyways, as a believer in a god for whom there is no evidence, it's surprising that you would ask that.

    Oh! Really?

    There is talk among some scientists of a macroverse.

    I think you mean multiverse. You seem to have the same problem. You are a believer in a macroverse/multiverse? Based on what evidence?

  • booby
    booby

    a couple of gas balls that made it to stardom are elvis and micheal, both degassed now.

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