Is Watchtower's position on smoking consistent with its position on masturbation?

by Island Man 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Watchtower considers masturbation to be a form of uncleanness but not a disfellowshipping offence because the bible says nothing about masturbation. A JW who masturbates is likely to face no more than losing privileges in the congregation.

    Like masturbation, smoking is considered by JWs to be a form of uncleannes and like masturbation, the bible says nothing about it. But a JW who smokes faces disfellowshipping.

    Yes, smoking is known to be deleterious to a person's health whereas the jury is still out on the adverse health effects of masturbation. But if this issue of harm to ones health is the defining difference that causes smoking to be a disfellowshipping offence then what about many other practices that are known to pollute the body and to be deleterious to health; why aren't they also disfellowshipping offences?

    For example, shouldn't JWs also be forbidden on pain of disfellowshipping, from eating certain foods that are known to contain carcinogens which pollute the body and increase the risk of cancer? Barbecue and many smoked and fried foods are known to be dangerous to one's health. What about certain occupations that necessarily expose one to certain toxic substances that pollute the body and can be deleterious to ones health just as much as smoking? How can it be OK for a JW to engage in these with no repercussions but smoking is not OK? Isn't that hypocritical?

    Shouldn't Watchtower's position on smoking be the same as it's position on masturbation - spoken against as a form of uncleanness; removal of privileges if you practice it; but no DFing?

  • bsmart
    bsmart
    Who ever said they were consistent!  Nothing makes sense in the cult.  
  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    But a JW who smokes faces disfellowshipping.

    Really ?

    Back in the day I remember it to be DA or silent reprove. ??

    It becomes a point of hypocrisy does it not when it realized just how much JWS drink alcohol and heavily too.

     

    You can booze if your a JWS but don't ever pick up a cigarette and smoke it.   

  • 144001
    144001
    It doesn't need to make sense; the rules of the Watchtower are to be followed, not questioned.
  • MissFit
    MissFit

    I think a lot of it has to do with image and publicity.  I feel dfing smokers is wrong and too harsh.  

    But  I think the"society" wanted to up the stakes to give people a bigger incentive.

    Masturbation is usually in private and less likely to "bring reproach" on the organization.

    I think a better comparison is withhow they handle pedophiles.

    It seems like they show more mercy to a child molester than to a smoker.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The masturbation story is a bit lark since the WTS repeatedly said that masturbation leads to homosexuality which is utter nonsense.

    Or that you can discourage masturbation if you don't eat a large meal before bedtime or if you sleep on your side instead of your back, the urge will eventually dissipate.

    Really ??  

  • integ
    integ

    I'll never forget the poor sap at the district convention who had to get up in front of 6,000 people and tell how he had a problem with watching pornography.  Went into as much detail as he could w/out getting graphic.  Kid was about 18 yrs old.

    Imagine trying to find a sister after that.

    It was uncomfortable for everyone and i'm sure humiliating for him.

    I'm guessing he was busted and to avoid being df'd he was pushed to do this part.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    In answer to the OP, the WT's position is not consistent. I had one elder, in a round about way, tell me my mum would die at Armageddon because she didn't stop smoking.

    OTOH all, or nearly all, teenage boys masturbate and are made to feel guilty for it by WTS. This guilt can be used to push people into doing more for the org - getting baptised, pioneering, etc.  

  • ctrwtf
    ctrwtf

    If you are smoling with your right hand and tugging with your left does it cancel out the misdeed?

  • coalize
    coalize
    Imagine trying to find a sister after that.


    Yes and No.. If he find one quickly after that, he can be sure he win a kind of jackpot! :) 

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